bjornk

Is it me or has the thread just dropped some weight?

Nah, that's not it. Sorry for the very slow reply, but yeah, I thought it might be some conflicting mods, but nope. I reinstalled Skyrim and activated only the necessary mods.

 

Here's the plugins.txt list:

Update.esm

Dawnguard.esm

Dragonborn.esm

HearthFires.esm

ZazResources.esp

SkyUI.esp

FNISspells.esp

sanguinesDebauchery.esp

SDpatch - dawnguard.esp

SDpatch - dragonborn.esp

The way you could whore your character out was nice.

@JinZen

First of all, thanks for your suggestions, but I never use anti-aliasing, as my graphics card is kinda low-end or at least slightly outdated and also my game never locks up on inventory screen. 

 

Anyway, after some more testing I've now realized that the freezes have something to do with SkyUI 3.1 and MCM. Without them, no matter how many quests there are in my journal, I never get any freeze, even when I spam the journal key like crazy. I think the MCM is the most likely cause of my problems as it's also tied to the same menu system. I'm pretty sure most people would get the same sort of freeze if they spam the journal key when MCM is enabled.

Looks like I'm not the only one:

http://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/499516-skyui/page-873#entry7433178

http://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/499516-skyui/page-793#entry7163207

Just as I suspected the freezes on the journal are caused by SkyUI+MCM.

Similar to what NicoleDragoness did in her message above, I've been blaming this mod for the freezes I get on the quest journal but it seems PO has nothing to do with them, so first of all, my apologies. Apparently, having too many quests on the journal and spamming the journal button 'J' too much makes the game freeze. I still don't know if that is a bug in the vanilla game or has something to do with SKSE+SkyUI+MCM combination though.

FYI, I started a new game without any LL mod and got lots of quests started on the journal and then started spamming the J button and then the game froze, that's how I tested it. You can probably check that out yourself in your game, actually I'd appreciate your feedback on this.

I've never said anything about the mod interfering combat, as it doesn't. I only get the freeze when I open the quest journal after a fight. And not just *a* fight, a fight with guards or with other bounty raising NPCs. Otherwise I can kill hundreds of beasts without any issue. Also I can wait or do other things after a fight, and the game wouldn't freeze for hours, until I press J again. I think it's probably because of something that is calculated or accessed when you open the journal. Quests, crime stats etc. can be anything at this point. 

@xaz

I downloaded v007 on Feb 27 and no, I haven't downloaded v007 again recently. I'm going to download and check it again.

Update:

Nope, both 006 and 007 gives me the same error. Although even if I delete xazpPrisoner_TauntScene from the esp I still get the freeze. I don't know, maybe it stays in the save, or maybe it's totally unrelated. BTW, there's no indication of any problem neither in papyrus logs or in SKSE logs, infact there's nothing related to this mod in the logs. That's why I keep blaming this or that. But I'm certain that this mod has something to do with it.

@xaz

I'm not sure if this is related to my problem in any way -though it may be- but TES5Edit gives me this error:

It is now clear to me that the freezes I get at the journal has something to do with this mod. Why? Well, I was having freezes and I uninstalled the mod and without this mod, using the same save I killed a Whiterun guard 5 times without any freeze. Then I installed this mod again and loaded the same save killed the same guard and guess what, got that freeze again. Wish there was a way to find out what's wrong either with the mod or with my game.  

Update:

Before uninstalling PO once again, instead of killing the guard I paid my bounty this time. At first things looked normal, no freeze at the journal. Then I started fighting with Whiterun guards and killing random people in Whiterun streets to increase my bounty. Killed a few people including Belethor, Uthgerd, plus 5-6 guards and then I got the freeze again when I opened the quest journal to see my bounty.

 

Is Fuz Ro Doh absolutely necessary for this mod to work? It's been giving me a lot of headache recently (random freezes at the quest journal) and I finally had to uninstall it. TBH I'd rather not install it again.

 

God, I think the problem is this mod, not Fuz Ro Doh at all. Even without Fuz Ro Doh, my game almost always freezes when I try to open the quest journal after a fight that adds to my bounty, which is currently quite high BTW. Freezes often occur after a fight with either any hold guards or the Thalmor, everything else works without an issue.    

 

Does this mod change the handling of any values listed under "Crime" section of "General Stats" in the journal?

 

No. The only changes to what's included in vanilla is the three dialogue topics when you surrender to guards in some of the holds. (Markarth and Winterhold are currently not affected by this mod.)

This mod will not give you random crashes related to combat or how you got the bounty in the first place, because it doesn't touch any of those things.

I have a save with a Whiterun guard waiting at my door to arrest me. While Prison Overhaul was enabled, I got out and killed the guard twice, and after that, each time I opened the quest journal my game froze. Then I disabled PO, then killed the guard again, and guess what, no freeze. Interestingly though, I never saw a bounty related message displayed after I killed the guard while PO was enabled, I guess I should have. Perhaps those messages stall and the journal gets stuck in a loop or something while trying to access updated bounty values? Just a thought. 

Anyway, I'm going to reinstall PO and try that save again a few more times to make sure the cause of freezes.

Is Fuz Ro Doh absolutely necessary for this mod to work? It's been giving me a lot of headache recently (random freezes at the quest journal) and I finally had to uninstall it. TBH I'd rather not install it again.

God, I think the problem is this mod, not Fuz Ro Doh at all. Even without Fuz Ro Doh, my game almost always freezes when I try to open the quest journal after a fight that adds to my bounty, which is currently quite high BTW. Freezes often occur after a fight with either any hold guards or the Thalmor, everything else works without an issue.    

Does this mod change the handling of any values listed under "Crime" section of "General Stats" in the journal?

Is Fuz Ro Doh absolutely necessary for this mod to work? It's been giving me a lot of headache recently (random freezes at the quest journal) and I finally had to uninstall it. TBH I'd rather not install it again.

Is getting a "Quests are the same" message normal when you get arrested?

Haven't played the latest update yet so I don't know if this has already been added, but is it possible to make the player sound as if she gets hit by an actual weapon when whipped? You know, using the default vanilla sounds like "Argh!", "Wergh!" etc. of the "female even-toned" sound type. Perhaps even with subtitles? That'd be great.

. The punishment quest updates every 1 in-game hour which is already too long. Use the bed and sleep for 24 hours each time. Then you'll egt whipped once a day or so

Well, it would still suck if you get sentenced to, let's say 40 days.

Not to sound pushy but, xaz, are you going to post an update anytime soon? Just started new game to try out the new DLCs and I very much like to keep this mod enabled through my game play but if there's going to be an update soon, I'd rather use the new one.

@nooblet123

 

Is there a way to get rid of these Dwemer bondage stuff once I escaped from the prison or is using console the only way?

 

Right now either do your time in jail or use the console.

I've actually noticed that you can put them back in the evidence chest.

@nooblet123

Is there a way to get rid of these Dwemer bondage stuff once I escaped from the prison or is using console the only way?

hey bjornk, what mod is that hair from in your avatar it looks really nice

It's either from Apachii or from Newsea/Sims hairs from ZZSHOP thread here.

It kinda looks like 6-lilo in the pic below, doesn't it.

I just played through the 0.20 build and I have to say, wow!  I am very impressed by the quality of this mod, and especially the chapter 1 animations.  I also really like what you did with the "cutscenes", where you have fixed point camera control.  I don't know that I've seen another mod that does that and honestly I wish more of them did because it's very cool.  Excellent work, just wanted to express my support for your efforts.

 

The scene that plays out when you select to behead the slaver anyway despite "negotiating" was absolutely hilarious. After the superb blowjob scene before it, I was amazed at how funny the follow-up was in contrast.

It was Tursam's turn to give head.

This is a poll for the best female body replacer then.

Is it not possible to escape from the prison, like you do in vanilla Skyrim? I mean when I escaped from the prison in Whiterun I still got whipped by an invisible guard *outside* Whiterun and the game did not actually register my escape.

No, not at the moment. I'll add it in the next version, because it's really needed for this mod to be useful.

Oh, okay then, I thought I did something wrong. This is gonna be a great mod to have alongside SD.

Is it not possible to escape from the prison, like you do in vanilla Skyrim? I mean when I escaped from the prison in Whiterun I still got whipped by an invisible guard *outside* Whiterun and the game did not actually register my escape.

Just another question, about the mod and the future of the mod:

 

In the main story, I just joined the Ulfric side, so Balgruuf had been "fired". I presume Irileth will still be with him. Does it change anything for the future, how to activate future Chapter? Or it's better to stay with the Empire?

If Balgruuf is no longer the Jarl of Whiterun, he goes and stays at the Blue Palace in Solitude, with Irileth beside him of course. So you'd probably have to go and find Irileth in Solitude I suppose, when you need to talk to her again.

I hope the mod eventually adds at least one recurring quest in addition to these series of one shot quests formed as chapters. I wouldn't want to throw away such a well made mod when I finished it.