DK86

Is there a mod required to get this to properly integrate with followers? I have followers enabled but my follower will only get briefly stripped and she'll put her clothes back on. When she gets something like an armbinder the armbinder will appear but she'll be able to function normally.

  Yeah something like that were you can still activate things since your hands are technically free but can't engage in combat would probably be the ideal way of implementing something like that. Hopefully you get most of the bugs worked out for it.

  I do have a bunch of those mods, what I mean is that when you equip cuffs with those mods they don't restrict your character at all like the way an armbinder does, you're still free to access your inventory and attack other players so basically they are just cosmetic (unless there is some way to make them actually restrict your character, someone told me that wasn't how they worked). I would like to see a mod that causes cuffs to restrict your character, to put them in an animation where their hands are kept behind their back and (possibly optionally) restrict you from accessing your inventory like arm binders do.   If I'm missing something and there is some way to do that I do apologize.

I've just got into Skyrim modding and was disappointed to find out items like cuffs are just cosmetic and don't restrict your character at all like an armbinder does. Do you think a mod that makes cuffs or other arm bindings non cosmetic and restrict the player similar to an armbinder would be possible?

  Hmm that's too bad, hopefully someday someone will make a mod that makes cuffs non cosmetic and actually restrict the character, or update an existing mod to give you an option to select having cuffs be non cosmetic like armbinders.

  Thanks for the info.   I don't see a mod or way to make something like arm cuffs non cosmetic and actually bind your characters arms together, I assume nothing like that exists?

I'm not sure if this is the correct place to ask this, but when you equip an items like cuffs on your character are they supposed to be purely cosmetic or are they actually supposed to animate your character with your arms bound together? Whenever I equip my character with cuff type items they just continue to move around normally like they are just wearing a cosmetic item and I'm not sure if that is normal.   I do have both this a Zaz's animation pack installed.

  From what I read online I though Defeat and Submit were compatible but I wasn't 100% sure. I'll try to remove one of them.     I'll also check out TES5Edit.   I'll probably just try starting out with a new save soon.

I'm new to Skyrim modding and installed sex lab along with various devious devices mods and enhancements.   When my character gets defeated the sex/rape animations play but most of the time when the finish I just get a CtD. Occasionally it will work correctly and my character will be bound but the vast majority of the time this wont happen. I've run Loot and FNIS, and registered animations in Zaz, but it still happens.   I've turned on Papyrus logging in the INI file but I never get a log file to see if anything is wrong.   I'm not sure if this is an issue with load order, or if some of the mods are conflicting. I believe I have all the required mods for everything.   Also when my character has cuff type items equipped the arms cuffed behind back animation isn't used, my character can move around normally. Is this normal behavior?       I have the follow mods/load order:      0  0 Skyrim.esm  1  1 Update.esm  2  2 Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp  3  3 Dawnguard.esm  4  4 Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp  5  5 HearthFires.esm  6  6 Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp  7  7 Dragonborn.esm  8  8 Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp  9  9 hdtHighHeel.esm 10  a PubicMeshColorRE.esm 11  b Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm 12  c SexLab.esm 13  d Devious Devices - Assets.esm 14  e SexLabAroused.esm 15  f ZaZAnimationPack.esm 16 10 Devious Devices - Integration.esm 17 11 Devious Devices - Expansion.esm 18 12 HighResTexturePack01.esp 19 13 HighResTexturePack02.esp 20 14 HighResTexturePack03.esp 21 15 SexLab Submit.esp 22 16 RaceMenu.esp 23 17 SOSRaceMenu.esp 24 18 GagSFX.esp 25 19 DeviouslyHelpless.esp 26 1a Devious Devices - For the Masses II.esp 27 1b hydra_slavegirls.esp 28 1c Cloaks.esp 29 1d DD FtM - Cloaks patch.esp 30 1e SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp 31 1f AK_RM_PubicStyles_All_In_One.esp 32 20 RaceMenuPluginXPMSE.esp 33 21 Devious Deviants.esp 34 22 SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp 35 23 Deviously Cursed Loot.esp 36 24 SexLabDefeat.esp 37 25 Quick Start - Skip the Opening Sequence.esp 38 26 SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp 39 27 RaceMenuPlugin.esp 40 28 Schlongs of Skyrim.esp 41 29 Remodeled Armor.esp 42 2a FNISspells.esp 43 2b mslDeviousCaptures.esp 44 2c SkyUI.esp 45 2d SkyrimBound.esp 46 2e dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp 47 2f GagSFXDawnguard.esp 48 30 GagSFXDragonborn.esp 49 31 GagSFXHearthfires.esp 50 32 SleepTight.esp       And I have the following mods enabled: mod_id,mod_installed_name,mod_version,file_installed_name 0,"Calientes Beautiful Bodies Edition -CBBE-","3.4.0.0d","C:/Users/Doug/Desktop/Skyrim Mods/Caliente's Beautiful Bodies Edition - v3.4d-2666-3-4d.7z" 12092,"Cloaks of Skyrim 1-2","d2015.7.13","C:/Users/Doug/Desktop/Skyrim Mods/Cloaks of Skyrim 1-2 -12092-1-2.rar" 0,"Defeat V5b3.3fixed","d2015.7.14","C:/Users/Doug/Desktop/Skyrim Mods/Defeat V5b3.3fixed.rar" 0,"Devious Devices Assets","2.9.0.0","C:/Users/Doug/Desktop/Skyrim Mods/DDa.rar" 0,"Devious Devices Expansion","1.2.1.0","C:/Users/Doug/Desktop/Skyrim Mods/DDx-v121.7z" 0,"Devious Devices for the Masses II","2.8.0.0","C:/Users/Doug/Desktop/Skyrim Mods/DD - For the Masses II v 2.8.zip" 0,"DeviousDevicesIntergration","d2015.7.13","C:/Users/Doug/Desktop/Skyrim Mods/DeviousDevices-Integration-2.9.0.rar" 0,"Deviously Cursed Loot 4.10","d2015.7.14","C:/Users/Doug/Desktop/Skyrim Mods/Deviously Cursed Loot 4.10.7z" 0,"Deviously Helpless 1.15d","d2015.7.13","C:/Users/Doug/Desktop/Skyrim Mods/Deviously Helpless 1.15d.7z" 11811,"FNIS Behavior V5 5 -- ALWAYS necessary","d2015.7.13","C:/Users/Doug/Desktop/Skyrim Mods/FNIS Behavior V5_5 -- ALWAYS necessary-11811-5-5.7z" 11811,"FNIS Creature Pack 5 3 Beta1","d2015.7.13","C:/Users/Doug/Desktop/Skyrim Mods/FNIS Creature Pack 5_3 Beta1-11811-5-3-Beta1.7z" 11811,"FNIS Spells V5 0 1 -- ADD-ON for the spells","d2015.7.13","C:/Users/Doug/Desktop/Skyrim Mods/FNIS Spells V5_0_1 -- ADD-ON for the spells -11811-5-0-1.7z" 0,"Fuz Ro Doh","d2015.7.14","C:/Users/Doug/Desktop/Skyrim Mods/Fuz Ro Doh 60-14884-6-0.zip" 0,"GagSFX","d2015.7.13","C:/Users/Doug/Desktop/Skyrim Mods/GagSFX 1.04.rar" 0,"GagSFX Dawnguard 1.04","d2015.7.15","C:/Users/Doug/Desktop/Skyrim Mods/GagSFX Dawnguard 1.04.rar" 0,"GagSFX Dragonborn 1.04","d2015.7.15","C:/Users/Doug/Desktop/Skyrim Mods/GagSFX Dragonborn 1.04.rar" 0,"GagSFX Hearthfires 1.04","d2015.7.15","C:/Users/Doug/Desktop/Skyrim Mods/GagSFX Hearthfires 1.04.rar" 0,"hdtHighHeel beta0","d2015.7.13","C:/Users/Doug/Desktop/Skyrim Mods/hdtHighHeel_beta0_5-36213-beta0-5.7z" 0,"hydra slavegirls 823 beta","d2015.7.15","C:/Users/Doug/Desktop/Skyrim Mods/hydra_slavegirls_823_beta.7z" 0,"MAIN PaintedLady REDONE v1","d2015.7.14","C:/Users/Doug/Desktop/Skyrim Mods/MAIN_PaintedLady_REDONE_v1.1-20141021.7z" 0,"mslDeviousCaptures2","d2015.7.13","C:/Users/Doug/Desktop/Skyrim Mods/mslDeviousCaptures2.71.7z" 49414,"Pubic hairstyles all in one CBBE","d2015.7.13","C:/Users/Doug/Desktop/Skyrim Mods/Pubic hairstyles all in one CBBE-49414-2-0.rar" 3325,"Quick Start - Skip The Opening Sequence","d2015.7.13","C:/Users/Doug/Desktop/Skyrim Mods/Quick Start - Skip The Opening Sequence v2_0-3325-2-0.zip" 0,"RaceMenu v3-2","d2015.7.13","C:/Users/Doug/Desktop/Skyrim Mods/RaceMenu v3-2-2-29624-3-2-2.7z" 601,"Realistic Force","d2015.7.13","C:/Users/Doug/Desktop/Skyrim Mods/Realistic Force-601-1-9.rar" 0,"Remodeled Armor","d2015.7.13","C:/Users/Doug/Desktop/Skyrim Mods/Remodeled Armor 3_4-13004-3-4.7z" 0,"SexLab - Defeat","5.1.0.0","C:/Users/Doug/Desktop/Skyrim Mods/SexLab - Defeat V5.1.0.rar" 0,"SexLab Aroused v20140124","d2015.7.13","C:/Users/Doug/Desktop/Skyrim Mods/SexLab_Aroused_v20140124.zip" 0,"SexLab Submit 01SEP14 1133","d2015.7.13","C:/Users/Doug/Desktop/Skyrim Mods/SexLab Submit 01SEP14 1133.7z" 0,"SexLabFramework","d2015.7.13","C:/Users/Doug/Desktop/Skyrim Mods/SexLabFramework.v159c.7z" 0,"skse 1 07 02","d2015.7.13","C:/Users/Doug/Desktop/Skyrim Mods/skse_1_07_02.7z" 0,"SkyrimBound","d2015.7.14","C:/Users/Doug/Desktop/Skyrim Mods/SkyrimBound v1.2.7z" 0,"SkyUI","4.1.0.0","SkyUI_4_1-3863-4-1.7z" 50954,"Sleep Tight","d2015.7.15","C:/Users/Doug/Desktop/Skyrim Mods/Sleep Tight v1_04-50954-1-04.7z" 0,"SOS","d2015.6.12","C:/Users/Doug/Desktop/Skyrim Mods/SOS - Schlongs of Skyrim - 2.05.041.7z" -1,"Unmanaged: Dawnguard","","" -1,"Unmanaged: Dragonborn","","" -1,"Unmanaged: HearthFires","","" -1,"Unmanaged: HighResTexturePack01","","" -1,"Unmanaged: HighResTexturePack02","","" -1,"Unmanaged: HighResTexturePack03","","" 23491,"Unofficial Dawnguard Patch","d2015.7.13","C:/Users/Doug/Desktop/Skyrim Mods/Unofficial Dawnguard Patch-23491-2-1-2.7z" 31083,"Unofficial Dragonborn Patch","d2015.7.13","C:/Users/Doug/Desktop/Skyrim Mods/Unofficial Dragonborn Patch-31083-2-1-2.7z" 25127,"Unofficial Hearthfire Patch","d2015.7.13","C:/Users/Doug/Desktop/Skyrim Mods/Unofficial Hearthfire Patch-25127-2-1-2.7z" 19,"Unofficial Skyrim Patch","d2015.7.13","C:/Users/Doug/Desktop/Skyrim Mods/Unofficial Skyrim Patch-19-2-1-1.7z" 0,"ZazAnimationPack Main v0605","d2015.7.13","C:/Users/Doug/Desktop/Skyrim Mods/ZazAnimationPack_Main_v0605.7z" 0,"ZazAnimationPack Patch v0607","d2015.7.13","C:/Users/Doug/Desktop/Skyrim Mods/ZazAnimationPack_Patch_v0607.7z" 0,"ZazAnimationPack Textures v0605","d2015.7.13","C:/Users/Doug/Desktop/Skyrim Mods/ZazAnimationPack_Textures_v0605.7z" 0,"ãSkeletonãXP32 Maximum Skeleton Extended","2.82.0.0","C:/Users/Doug/Desktop/Skyrim Mods/Groovtama's XPMS Extended-26800-2-82.7z"    

I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this or not (since I'm not sure if the issue is with the Animation Pack or another mod) but I've started playing with these mods and I can't get the animation pack to work correctly in the game. Sometimes it works, other times it wont. I've started a new character and when I equip handcuffs the character continues to move around like normal like she isn't cuffed. When I get defeated by a bandit the rape animation will play but when done sometimes when finished the game will CTD or all the characters will just freeze. Once when my character was equipped with cuffs the animation played normally the character was running around like she was bound until she tripped and then it went back to the normal running animation.   The animations seem to showup properly in Sexlab and ZaZs animation framework. When I use Zaz program to run an animation test that always works fine.   I have the following load order:   I'm not sure if it's a load order thing (I tried using Loot but I'm not 100% sure if it's correct) or if there is something else that I'm missing. If it's some mod that causing it would be great if anyone could point me in the right direction.