sapho888

While I liked the idea of Deviously Helpless and tried to have it in my games a few times, I was always turned off by the fact that if the NPCs caught the merest glimpse of you, they would beeline straight for you.  I normally play stealthy characters and this would mess with my games horribly.  The NPCs would also completely ignore all threats to their lives in pursuit.  No wild animal, undead horde, or vengeful guard would stop them from trying to have a taste of my delectable helpless body.     Hopefully you can implement it in a way like the stealth system in which they may look for you but don't have some kind of homing beacon on you.

I know you are taking a much deserved break so I'm going to leave this here now for you to consider when you go back to modding.   I've noticed a possible bug when enslaved by NPCs that you normally don't have dialogue with.  (bandits, necromancers, etc).  They don't seem to punish you at all if they catch you pick-pocketing them.  I get the message saying that you have been caught pick-pocketing but nothing happens.  They don't attack you or anything.  I tested it with an innkeeper as an owner (via Immerslave) and he appropriately seems to catch me and started to attack me. I also tested by pick-pocketing a normal bandit that was not my owner.  He caught me and attacked me as normal.  Once he had enslaved me, I tried to pickpocket him again and while he caught me, he ignored it.   I don't believe I have any mods that should affect pick-pocketting turned on either.

here is a very good video on how to install FNIS with MO.   >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpOuGN-yr6E

A funny lil story made possible by this mod.   I had just escaped from a cage that some unknown assailants had made me run across Skyrim to as Quickly as I liked...   As I wandered back to civilization I ran across a small campsite with a journal that told of caravan raids and prisoners being kidnapped.  It looked like the camp owners planned to go up the hill to investigate and save their friends.  Being a healer and a devout follower of Mara, I decided to go and check to see if there were any wounded that I could help as the camp was empty.  Along the mentioned path, I saw a patch of lavender that would be good for making potions so I paused briefly to pick some.  I don't remember much after that except that I woke to find myself completely bound from head to toe with multiple restraints, gags, encased in some strange skintight outfit and hooded in a cage.  Is this what happened to those poor prisoners mentioned in the journal too?    

yaayy.  I kinda figured that it would be one of those weird situations.  Thank you for this great mod btw.  

I'm not sure if this is a bug but I was enslaved by SD+ and held at Faldar's Tooth by bandits.  When I would use the solicitation option from CUrsed Loot on bandits (to raise gold for my master   ) occasionally the bandit would say that he would report me to the guards.  It seems strange to me that bandits would threaten to report me for offering sex.  As far as I can tell, the report did nothing or maybe the guards were slain trying to get into the bandit fort but it still didn't feel right.  (or maybe I mean it didn't feel wrong) 

  Slightly off topic but what animation do you use to have your PC stand like that?

What no bone plug?  That one almost writes its own jokes.     Great idea though, simple yet elegant.

Oh wait, I know... it will turn out to be The Catalyst which takes the form of a small child and he will be give you 3 options.   1. Destroy the race organizers. 2. Take control of them 3. Merge with them.   Unfortunately for you, none of these endings will satisfy your rabid user base and they will demand a new ending.   Or was that a different game?   

my guess would have been Nazeem 

Just ignore the troll and don't even quote him or respond.  He doesn't deserve the attention.   But i wanted to mention that this mod is pretty much the bedrock of my games in Skyrim.  It IS what makes my RP life in Skyrim so much better by bringing to life a lot of the ideas that normally you would just have to imagine in your own head.  There are probably very few mods that even approach the complexity and the grand potential of this mod.     Don't let the negativity bring you down and look forward to all the new goodies (and punishments) that you will add in the future.  Thank you.

I had the normal chance for pregnancy for humans set to 15% with 80% additional during fertility period as you suggested in the OP.  I also had animals set to 0% as I didn't want pregnancy to start from animals.  However I am still getting impregnated by wolves.  I'm not sure if this means that it is taking the 0% and adding the 80% during the fertility period.

Or maybe some additional muscle hanging around that lumbermill. It would make sense that a criminal mastermind such as her would have some lumberjacks and other disguised goons hanging around defending her... I'm sure she could find various ways of payment for them.  

a new brothel would be nice.  In my recent game, I was just passing by the current brothel and it looks like the NPC that you would have to go to start the brothel events was killed by passing NPCs.        I have populated Roads mods which adds random roaming NPCs though so they are probably what killed her as there were a lot of evil mages and bandits in that area.

  Have you considered having piercings added as an option for the "I don't like the way you look" event.  That seems like it would fit into that comment from the Owner and it shouldn't require an additional requirement since DD is already used.  

when i did the innkeeper start, the Innkeeper's name did not change to "Owner" like it does with other NPCs but i still had the proper dialogue options.   So it seemed to be working for me.  do you have SL DIalogues installed as well?

  A nice to have, but not absolutely game breaking issue is that for the warlock start, if I gain the Owner's trust and he allows me to leave, you still can't actually get out without getting the key to the door from the owner somehow.  I normally get around this by pickpocketing the key from him with the help of some skooma that boosts thievery but it would be nice if the door would unlock if you are freed by the Owner.  Of course, if you escape by other means such as stealing the Master Key, well then... you are on your own as a run-away slave.  

I'm going to try a few different scenarios to see if i just have a bad load game but I started a new game with the latest ImmerSlave and chose to be enslaved again by a warlock and used as his test subject.  I slowly gained his trust I eventually stole the Master key but the Owner is still friendly to me afterwards although he reverts back to an Electromage and i got the message saying that # of enslaved faction was 0.  I will try to test some more to see if I can figure out if it is on my end, but I figured I would mention it just in case.

  Something that might be confusing, skyrimll, is that for your Warmbodies Obscure Patch, If i click on the link to see the full description, the description page seems to have an older version of the mod.  I didn't realize there was a 2015 version until i went to the download section of the Obscure Patches page.

  I stand corrected then    Another (cheaty) option is to turn the exposure rate on Frostfall very low or to 0 for the time when you are in super cold temperatures.

  I don't know if he is ever meant to give you clothes.  I've gotten ale (which will temporarily warm you) or you get a sex scene which if you have the Warmbodies mod that skyrimll has, should also keep you warm temporarily.  It probably also depends on how happy the master is with you.

I'm not sure if this is a bug but  when the Master says something like "I'm starving.  Get me something to eat."  and I give him some food, I don't always get the message from the owner saying "That should hit the spot."   Is it only certain times that he will accept food?   On the other hand, it gave me the idea that if it is the case that he only wants food at certain times, perhaps he can punish you for trying to offer things he doesn't want.  

  You could also use iNeed and you can designate the race milks as a drink that lowers thirst in game with that mod.  

Are you sure you aren't just an alt account for skyrimll with all these mods that you are making?