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  Interesting, definitely going to check it out

  Damn that sucks, wish I knew a way to fix the save when that happens, but all I've found that works is to make 100 saves over time so I can revert back further and further in hopes I can find one that is still stable.

  "Deviously Enslaved v1.040000 is starting" This is normal, until this next release I never changed the internal version number, it's been at 1.04 since I started making changes.   I'm not sure that save cleaning worked correctly, I haven't seen this kind of effect before. Did you delete the forms for DE too, in addition to the scripts? Fix all #?   Just to test and see if you get something different, do you get similar on a new game? If you don't then the save clean probably failed somehow.

  I'm surprised you got DEC to work at all...   It looks like you forgot to save clean from a really old version of Deviously Enslaved, this debug output in your log is so old I'm not even sure what version it's from, too lazy to go download 1.04 and see if that's where it's from.   Follow the save clean procedure in the DEC FAQs or start a new game to fix.

  No, I keep forgetting to remove those items scripts. I never planned for those to enter, not sure if they were in the mod when I picked it up from chase or I added them somehow.   You can ignore overwriting those.

  Didn't realize hooks were deprecated in 1.5 and removed in 1.6   All sex events after sex are broken, can't fix without reverting to 1.59 to compile or finding a uptodate reference for how to use the new system.   Maybe tomorrow...

  Nah, that specific error is fine, I get it on this side and doesn't seem to cause any issues.   MariaMasters[] is a placeholder, a companion to SDMasters (list of masters you can get sent to with SD distance). I never used it but when I commented it out one time that error popped up and I haven't bothered with trying to fix it (If I recall, you have to re-compile the script, reinit the esp script definition, save and further clean in tes5edit to get rid of it), but it's not used by the mod at all currently so it doesn't really mater if the engine doesn't load it into the symbol table.   If the variable was actually used, and you got that error, then yes that would be bad.

  Sounds right, DEC stops working in combat, and waits 20ish seconds after combat ends before starting back up to stop getting in the way of devious surrender.   Defeat should be detected too, if defeat is still busy when the combat suspension ends DEC should wait for it to finish before working.

  Huh, I don't recall touching that code in a long time, I'll see if I can replicate it when I test stuff tonight.   While I applaud you for at least putting the log in spoilers, in the future can you just upload the file? Makes replying with a quote easier, can search through a file with tools and syntax highlighting, ect.

  http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2791993  

Oh if skyrimll thinks it's harmless it probably is, I just haven't seen it before (or wasn't looking for it, it's not in my current previous papyrus logs)   "how can I tell dec to reproduce This occurrence every time" Ambiguous, I'm assuming you mean get back to SD+ distance in the mara pond location, if so: set variables to get enslavement (discussed previously) Turn all enslavement sliders, except for Distance->SD+ Weight, to 0 Turn sold and local sliders to 0, leaving only given To cycle the next SD distant master to the one you want, if you want one specifically, use the Debug->Refresh SD Masters to cycle them in random order (I should probably figure out how to turn that into a drop down list instead... one day)

  Did you upgrade to 11.0.1? You're getting the same Global is none errors I saw in 11.0. If You did upgrade, and save cleaned, and those errors are still showing up I need to fix that, although I don't think that issue would cause SD to break. [10/25/2015 - 12:27:08PM] error: Property Player on script _sdras_master attached to alias _SDRA_master on quest _SD_enslavement (9000182D) cannot be bound because alias _SDRA_player on quest _SD_controller (90000D64) is not the right type That doesn't look good.... If that property is the main var that holds the NPC that counts as SD's master the whole enslavement quest could be broken after that. [10/25/2015 - 12:50:36PM] warning: Property libs on script zadNPCScript attached to alias NPC20 on quest zadNPCSlots (130274C1) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property That doesn't sound good either. "libs" is probably the var name for zadLibs, the library of devious devices. If that fails to load for that script then that script is foobar too, although I don't know what that does to DD's ability to function.

  Sounds like a problem with SD? DEC shouldn't be doing anything at that point after handing enslavement off to SD   You could post a log, maybe there's some error that DEC throws that would tell me more, but I don't remember ever seeing DEC cause items to not equip on someone (at time or delayed), especially when it's not DEC that's putting them on the player.   Edit: You can put chastity belt on the player outside of enslavement between 1 and 2 right? If you can't put on a DD chastity belt after the first enslavement, before the second enslavement, might be a DD problem

  The game gives you a limited time to get approached, if nothing happens in the dialogue the approach time doesn't get lifted, which is the debug is telling you the mod is suspended, it should life within 25 game-minutes, or <1 minute actual time. Or you can reset it in the debug options if the wait bugs you.   I've never been able to reproduce CTD while DEC is busy with something, can't confirm on my end DEC has anything to do with it, although this CTD might be different.   You did however get a suspended stack dump in this log, only four frames are DEC so I don't think DEC caused it, but I'm no expert on suspended stack problems.   Sorry about spamming your log with var is none errors, forgot I was working with content not yet available, will release hotfix for that   I've never gotten PSQ to work, looks like it somehow starts sexlab without any actors.... strange.   Edit: your extra log with the CTD doesn't tell me much, DEC has little output I didn't get from the other log. Assuming the suggested logic of "the last thing in the log is likely what caused the CTD" which I don't really believe myself, I would check what mod vmyc_hangoutmanager, vvvMarkHomeQuest, and vMYC_zCompat_AFTQuest belong to and see if that mod causes a CTD.   If DEC is causing the CTD, I would think it's because of too heavy script load, which is a problem DEC has but not limited to DEC

Falling asleep, meant to name that release 11.0.1   It's getting too late for me to try to replcate the stack dump on my end, since I haven't seen any over the last week of testing, I assume either those errors were causing problems or I have to revert a few mods to get the same effect. I'll try to replicate tomorrow if 11.0.1 doesn't fix it for you guys.

  Those errors should be fixed in 11.1 I just posted.   The stack dumps, assuming they aren't caused by those errors, that I'm not sure about yet.  

  That console shot is too old, the debug I need has already scrolled past, use page up and page down to scroll and find the specific message   I'm assuming you mean the message saying total is 0, more mods are needed, but I can't be sure.   Edit: I should clarify that I did know about a bug where the mod chooser could be completely wrong about what mods are available, I wanted to get this version out for compatibility with some mods first though. I didn't notice the bug until last night since I normally play with almost all mods, and it doesn't crop up with certain combinations.   If I recall correctly, naked is defined by DEC as absent of items that contain the following 3 keywords: ClothingBody, ArmorLight, ArmorHeavy if you wear no items with those keywords you are naked to DEC. Couldn't find a better way to test player nudity, there doesn't seem to be a % skin shown or skin area shown as part of any body API that I've found

  Right you are, I should link to it so there is less confusion

11.0 requires save clean.   I didn't realize lola had removed petcollar or I would have added detection for it earlier, although turning DE off was always an option.   Isle of Mara detection is incomplete, I haven't played with most of the mod, and haven't found every instance where DE shouldn't interfere, leaving DE off while you're playing with it is still recommended.   The "slaverun enslavement" toggle in the enslave menu and the old "slaverun weight" slider only work for the old slaverun enslavement option, which I haven't gotten working in slaverun reloaded yet. The slaverun reloaded enslave only has a slider, and counts as sold.

  Turning on console debug doesn't move the debug from the papyrus log to the console, it moves it from the notifications view to the console. I added it because I was tired of notifications going too slow, couldn't find a mod to extend it, and wanted to read it for more than 5 seconds. For me, and most users in the old thread, debug prints to BOTH log and console, not just the console. That's how it's written in papyrus, to print to both, log + notification or log + console.   Even turning off the debug toggle doesn't stop DEC from posting to the log if it's important, only level 0 debug output (quick testing stuff, should be removed before release (not always)) should be stopped from showing up in the log if debug is turned off, status/state/rolling must be additionally off for those not to appear in the log. Since debug enable, status, and state are all enabled your log should have lots of output.   Unless I'm misreading again and you're saying you setup your skyrim install to specifically send debug to console (is even possible?), and my mod doing it intentionally is just a coincidence.   I didn't really consider that catching sexhooks could stop sexlab from working, glitching the actors? DEC has been catching those hooks for a while and I've only seen that bug recently myself. You're saying if you uninstall DEC that bug goes away? I remember changing the hooks recently for something but it was minor, the functions are still really short and they don't call for sexlab to pause or stop while they are running.   DEC already does state in the debug which mod was chosen for the next enslavement, but since it's not outputting to your papyrus log, and the game crashed for you before you could read it from papyrus you didn't see it. If you do the following you should see the enslavement in listed in console debug: Mod enable ON, Debug enable ON, Debug console ON, Chance of Enslavement 100%, Minimum Player Vulnerability <= 1, Minimum NPC arousal == -2 Go walk around naked in front of NPCs that aren't wearing DD/Zaz gear, are not known as slaves by some specific mod, are not town guards. If they don't attack you, the reason will be listed in the console You should pick up an enslavement, open the console and read the contents before the dialogue with the NPC is finished, at that point the type of enslave (local/given/sold) should be visible already, all enslavement debug will be finished by the time the enslavement starts. Edit: Didn't realize you could set the severity of trace, next version ouput might show up in your log since some of this will be set to error severity.

  Yeah sorry, there's nothing useful in those logs. As far as those logs are concerned DEC isn't working.   There's just no regular debug output, only errors/warnings, and since the last warning in pap1 is common but requires getting to the end of the approach code, I can only assume that it's working normally but logging for regular papyrus messages was turned off somehow, especially since I don't see any of those messages for other mods either.   As for CTD discovery, log tells me nothing unfortunately. Some users say looking at the last couple of messages can be a clue, but if so hdt is the source of your crash

  Are you sure this is the rignt log? It has almost no DEC output at all, just some init bugs and one none type error.   DEC's debug is turned on by default, but did you turn it off somehow? Check the debug tab of the MCM menu and see if debug is enabled, and if "state information" and/or "status information" are turned off as well.   But... this log is kinda short, only 700 lines and mostly init with some save cycling, are you sure this is the right log?   Edit: Hang on, did you clear everything from this log but the errors and warnings? I need text output too you know...

  DEC floods the papyrus log with debug info, post it and maybe it will tell me more (just not usually anything useful for CTD)   You said "new sleeping owner" which told me you didn't get slaverun/simpleslavery/mariaeden/wolfclub, I assumed you got SD+ and it was distant, meaning you were ported to a new location for a different NPC. I read "new owner" to mean a new NPC you had never seen before, but that's probably not what you meant   Did you get devious cidhna pirate instead? He might start asleep now that I think about it...

  SD Distance enslave?   Was the character wearing DD or have a lot of stuff in their inventory?   I should really learn to read core dumps, since aparently skyrim provides them if you tell it to.   Can't tell what causes a CTD without a reproducable cause is the issue, not sure if DE or SD or some other background process.   Edit: http://www.loverslab.com/topic/46913-how-to-debug-ctd/#entry1174832never actually used this, but next time you get a CTD you might consider getting the address to compare

  I'm assuming "shop" is a typo of stop   From dlhp, yes, it both sends them out when DEC is busy and stops working while active from other mods.   line 302-328 in crdemodsmonitorscript.psc   If you meant stop/pause/resume functions on the quest, I've never tried it honestly, should stop it from working since the loop is implemented with OnUpdate()   Are you saying DHLP has a stop and pause event too? I've only been using the suspend event because I've never heard of using the other two.   I'm confused. DEC already uses dhlp, what is "shop pause and resume'?   Edit: So tes5edit doesn't show any furniture in SLStories regular or deviant, can I assume you're using vanilla milk machines provided by ZAP?   I can probably just look at the zaz keywords for milk machines and furu tubes (only three keywords), since those should be the only sexlab triggered furniture (solo) that I know of, should probably make a note to ask xaz to add a keyword for all sexlab enabled furniture the next time he returns.