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its not like bodyslide is a thing.... or even the Citrus base: http://www.loverslab.com/files/file/2107-citrus/   all we need to do is to have a base uv map that everyone can follow and we are good to go really. whatever is the best should be supported by the other mesh type and so on. when there is one uv map that means there is only one texture standard, and ofc any shape the mesh has will fit the texture aslong as its mapped correctly.   a body like Citrus is an UNP based mesh and uv map, that can take the shape of most bodies..... even the CBBE bases.   what i want from fallout is this, something like the Citrus body with a great base that supports alot/all of the textures (with a shared uv map for example) and a shaping tool like bodyslide so people can make their own shapes as they see fit.   you also might wonder about armor/clothing shapes and sizes...... well bodyslide and citrus does have conversion filters and guides that are easy to get into. that way any user can also shape any armor/clothing mod to the shape of the bodyshape they also shaped themselfs.   why limit ourself to the standards? also 7B is an UNP base and not its own thing..... tho it has alot of meshes based on the base 7b shape. 

im happy to see that there have been an new update for this.... sad to see alot of the sliders are gone ATM tho :C cant wait to see them return, we need more options for the stomach ASAP!   ATM with 4.1 i feel its hard to make a more chubby character, ofc i can use the two sliders that are there now to limit the abs but even so, there is little option to make a larger stomach without it.    its somewhat easier for breasts but thats pretty much it, for now im going to stick with 2.0 i think, till more sliders are added again  

yeah im one of those guys that will prob want the exact shape XD ofc take it from there with my own twist ofc or use it as an armor base

for the presets to show up for the clothing you need to edit the XML's. things you got to make sure to do when converting something like this and you want it to be good is to use the Citrus body as the ref body and then shape the clothing to fit the standard body. then you need to conform the sliders and copy the bone weights. thats the easiest way of doing it..... ofc you have to go though all the sliders and fix clipping on all/most of them to have the best look in-game and for sharing.

@blabba you said that the CBBM body made the cut, but what part? because that ass is just too good to pass up IMO!

just a thought about the missing petite/slim/loli/pettanko body. maybe we can get a mesh commissioned by someone? we just need to look for someone willing. and depending on the price im willing to help quite a bit maybe we should try to split with the fans if more are willing to pitch in. 

thanks for keeping me posted! <3   working on installing MO and Bodyslide once again over here. i know for a fact that your body system is the best.   and i do agree with the UV map hassle is tied to the amount of people want to actually do this.    i dont mind the delay at all TBH. just happy to hear you are still working on it!     i hope once we have a more finalized version of Citrus and Bodyslide then there will be no limits on what we can create in terms of the body atleast XD   Just random Pervy way of showing different shapes of the female body XD LMAO.

well its been quite some time since i was talking skyrim in general. (Raid array lost and needs to start from the start with MO :C)   im guessing the update isnt that far away now as its almost been 2 weeks now love to see whats changed!   if i dare to ask, did the CBBM Body make the cut?     @Reverting Hand UV: i for one do not mind converting uv maps. a texture only needs to be done once and shared here. (ofc unless the original creator is against it (witch they normally isnt)) i feel the detail level and the overall look is so much better that its worth that hassle. nail mods and such that work with vanilla hands does not even come close. yes there is hands that use the vanilla UV map, but none is at this level of quality.    @Skinnier/Slim/Petite body shapes: yeah sadly there is few to pick from. bodies like UNPetite and Dreamgirl does not really look that good alone, but with mix of sliders (witch CITRUS is made for) i think we can make some good sliders that work.  the standard UNP Skinny does not look that bad tho..... but we need a flatter chest for that IMO. we should have the option to have no breasts at all and have it flat chested if we really want. 

you can always just convert the equippable pupes that we already have to CITRUS and it will work fine. 

  depends on the sliders......

  there is nothing really wrong with how the CITRUS sliders are ATM IMO (except some petite forms).   get used too use more than one slider at a time to make your shape, and dont be afraid to go over 100% and under 0% either as it can still look good if you do it right. 

  way to get the look as i have is to follow this file priority:   1. Citrus Body and Textures 2. Fairskin Textures 3. My UV map patch ( i used version 7.4.1 for the conversion so if there is change in texture color then i have to make a new one i guess.)     The Fair Skin Complexion is made by HHaleyy and i have nothing to do with this texture other than fixing the UV map for it.       also, if people dont want to do this for themselfs, i can always do it again for you for whatever UNP texture you might have (i guess..... i can atleast try for you  )     hmmmm blabba maybe you should just post a link on the first post for this patch. the creator of the Fairskin Texture is fine with it (can give you a screen of a PM from him if you like)

EDITED to minimize Space. i Found what i was looking for.    

EDITED to minimize Space. i Found what i was looking for.    

EDITED to minimize Space. i Found what i was looking for.

EDITED to minimize Space. i Found what i was looking for.  

  actually it was the 4K Parallax Texture Pack   thank you both for your help anyway

what texture pack is this?    

wow you are really outdoing everyone with your work here!   how can us users even pick between all those good options?

  the thing is with CITRUS is that its textures as UNP based (so is 7B) so you can use CITRUS as a base body and still use 7B armor and clothing. ofc the shape wont be the same between nude and clothed meshed.

one thing you haven't done with the release of the Base Citrus body was having first person hands. just a heads up. you can easily fix this by making a copy of the hands then renaming them to "1stpersonfemalehands_0.nif" and "1stpersonfemalehands_1.nif"   just thinking about when you are going to release this fully, small things like that can really turn people away if they dont know what they are doing.  no hand seams on the first person hands when using the Skyrim - Enhanced Camera

Thanks a Ton! <3 love you guys!!!   will start on a Citrus Conversion later today

    Prob, don't really care about that at all tho. the Gloves to fit in, and there is a ton of gloves mods out there already. im more interested in the top and then converting it to the Citrus Body with HDT Weights on it

  Great that you found out what it was!   looking forward to your updates and input

    i asked HHaleyy (the Fairskin creator) about our little foot issue. and he replied and i quote:   " I don't know well about meshes but it seems like the cause is in the nif file, if it has NiAlphaProperty. The nails are regarding the UV mapping? Of course it might be confirmed though."   in the nif there is no NiAlphaProperty reference of any kind. i don't know anything about meshes or what might be the cause of this. but maybe you do if you try to use that maybe?   IDK: just trying to help if this is just dumb and doesn't make sense XD