Mesarthim

For the record I followed the instructions and have zero issues so this is most definitely a user-side problem. I installed things in order (with NMM) and there are no errors, at all. What order are you installing things in exactly? And what files?

I think I found the final boss to my current load order (or just installation order of the Elin mods).   So while I am glad I fixed things by switching to UNP I at the same time broke the elin npc replacer. In my current game I noticed this immediately since I was with Aela immediately after obtaining werewolf (inside the fort actually). At first Aela was human and had different hair. I'm like wait what? And the only other change I noticed by trying to reinstall either is Aela being human (by not checking npc replacer) and not moving her mouth, or her having an Elin head on an adult unp body (with the bbp unp body mod from earlier).   At present I have two choices, ditch UNP for Elin and deal with seams on hands (particularly guards and some npcs) or forget using the npc replacer option. Have any ideas? Everything else works fine! It's just an issue with npcs being turned into Elins and the UNP mod.

It seems something else was amiss but I'll leave it at that. I do have a new body now. Currently testing out a slightly new and buggy perkus maximus mod so I had some CTD's. The good news is it also eliminated the hand seams or at the very least made it nearly unnoticeable.

Yes I use NMM but I even tried to use MO just for that one mod just now and I still noticed no change. I see a variety of folders it could go in so while I play guess the folder, which directory should the filed go in specifically for the type I want?   Actually scratch that, I was looking at the wrong folder. Somehow I went stupid and was looking in meshes instead of textures as the FOLDER is called when unzipping it.   Edit 2: Apparently still isn't working.

But I rather enjoy shoving my head onto an enchanting table! Though in all honesty I don't mind it.   On another note while I have everything fixed there's two problems I seem to have that I either don't remember if it was a problem for me before or I did something different to cause it.   1. The whole seam at the hands thing. But this might tie into #2. I just tend to notice it more on Elin guards but not myself (I tend to have gloves on, be it actual armor or a cosmetic armor mod).   2. The body conversion files, be it CBBE or UNP (the one I use). The files titled new body texture pack. I'll refer to UNP since I use that, or try to. In fact I don't think it's doing anything when I activate that. The body as far as I can tell remains unchanged from the option selected during the main elin installation (non nude and its 3 nude options). I haven't done it again but do they require the bbp file or something or are they standalone? If so I don't know how to make it work.   Aside from these things everything else is working as intended. Thanks for pointing out the first person camera fix as I could not find a working fix myself. Now I rather enjoy returning to Elin 1.

Seems I hit a snag with Elin 2. With Elin 1 I was able to be a vampire just fine using the better vampires mod (with dawnguard) after doing troubleshooting, this did not work with Elin 2 using better vampires (status does not update). Do you know of any solutions to that problem? Of course a workaround would be for me to simply play the dawnguard side of things which has been... awhile? I don't actually care about vampire lords, just the status itself. Haven't tested with vanilla vampirism nor am I going to as that would defeat the point since I got it working with Elin 1.   On another note I still have to avoid installing Elin 1 things (like your first option in post above) as it causes the first person camera to shrink on my end, even if I'm on Elin 2). I do not have camera problems with just Elin 2 standalone. Unless there's something I'm missing in regards to Elin 1.

So out of curiosity what armors are compatible with the Elin 2 body (which I think is the Tera body)? I tried out one Fox armor from that set (I know the types are varied but that's a large list of armor) and my legs got a little thicker. Furthermore I remember putting on the dark brotherhood armor briefly only to notice I put on a few pounds, particularly in front. I look great in vampire armor though.   tl;dr I've no idea what armors fit Elins properly.

So for the most part everything seems to be working, including compatibility with better vampires but I do have a question or two. Is the Elin size problem still a thing (work in progress?) when it comes to small elins doing an adult animation? At first I thought it was crazy until I read about it early on in this thread. Minor issue though, including the drunken huntsman followers (just need to catch them tiny if I want them) and 3 element mage followers (putting them there just because).   While my 1st person camera does indeed work it seems to shrink down if I ever tinker with showracemenu. I can reset the camera if I quit skyrim and reload the 3rd person camera mod (unless that part is unncecessary, but it does seem to fix the 1st person camera). Think it also shrunk down after I got on the cart for the Diplomatic Immunity mainline quest. I don't use vampire lord to find out if that affects it too (I'm a vampire that doesn't care about vampire lords). I believe my load order is fine as there are no performance issues though it's just a matter of avoiding a minor problem with a quick fix.   Edit: Forgot to ask. Is the small elin sinking into chairs thing normal or is there a fix for that?