Nonsense667

A fairly simple mod, or alternatively, a tweak to an existing mod I'd like to see:

Rapists (particularly males. >.>) leave their clothes off for a while after rape. Just seems like something I would like to see: captured in a bandit camp, raped, then the rapist just kinda struts around after the deed is done with his cock out, rather than putting on the armor right after the deed is done. Don't know if anyone else is interested in that though.

As well, I think it might be interesting to have some (lore friendly) reasons to have some nude guys around, hah. And yes, this is because I want an immersive reason to see SoS in action, hah. Something like a SexLab version of those revelers? Just kinda throwing random thoughts at the wall. Point is: More nude dudes in skyrim for immersive reasons. 

 

Whoops. That makes me realize I forgot to include my load order. Not that it matters, just that it's standard procedure. ... and now I need to figure out how to get the load order list from NMM (Just getting into skyrim, used OBMM for oblivion)

 

And I don't think I ever enabled it to do log files... >.> (Again... just getting into skyrim )

By and large, load orders are basically pointless to show me, for a couple of reasons:

1. Submit uses 100% custom files, and the only real dependency it has on any other mod is the Framework.  Technically, there should be no conflict with other mods, simply because there are no shared files that can conflict, unlike some mods that affect certain Skyrim source files.
2. Submit has plenty of scripts to execute, but they are all custom and reference custom resources (Or in the case of Dawnguard, Dragonborn, and Arousal, make dedicated checks to ensure those exist in your load order).  That said, if your papyrus is choked up with a lot of errors/warnings from other mods, than script lag and such may impact how Submit performs, but that is an entirely different problem, and one that can only be resolved by clearing out all of the errors that may show in your log.
3. Similar to the problem with testing Submit against other mods, in order to make much use out of a load order list, I would have to be familiar with every mod shown, what order is best, etc.  Considering I don't personally use too many mods (NMM is showing a total of 53, 13 of which are just .ESM's and/or the various Unofficial patches) that isn't going to happen.  At best, you might get some other users that can say they use such and such with no problem, and they recommend having XXX mod before/after YYY mod, but I personally don't really look at load orders as a particularly useful diagnostic tool.
4. The most I ever commit to is listing my own personal load order on the main page, but the salient part to that is basically to have all of my various .ESM's, followed by SkyUI.esp, then Submit, then everything else.

Logs, on the other hand, are very useful.  Whether they highlight an actual problem within Submit, or just exposing a myriad of errors and/or warnings from *other* mods which may be impacting everything else, logs are the single most useful thing for getting to the source of problems.

 

I still feel like an asshole if I don't post it. What can I say, it's been drilled into me. I guess I'll know what to do if it crashes again... but for now... it's randomly working fine. >.>

Edit: Maybe it's scared, now that I can see what is messing up.

 

Weird bug report. Not even sure if it's worth looking at... but it's odd enough I figured I'd give it.

 

To run Skyrim in borderless windowed mode (not all the time, just when I'm multitasking, hence the issue not being immediately apparent to me) I use the plugin "OneTweak." So I'm moving the plugin (dll and config) in and out of the plugin folder. The first time I run Skyrim after putting OneTweak in, there is no issue. But the second time I run Skyrim, and I submit to someone, I crash once it's time for the sex animations to start. It's really odd. The look of surprise on my face when I figured out that this was the conflict. Once I remove the OneTweak plugin, I stop crashing.

 

To be fair, for all I know, OneTweak is causing glitches and issues in other mods too, just not noticable, game crashing ones. But yeah. Weird issue.

Unfortunately, that sounds like something I wouldn't be able to do much about without going down the rabbit hole of downloading every mod, resource, and what have you out there to see what works and what doesn't, not to mention keeping up with current versions of all of the above.

 

If you have a log file, and it shows something directly Submit related (Very easy to tell, do a search in the log for the word "Submit", as every script I have has the naming convention "_SLSubmit####"), then we might have something to work with.  Otherwise, not much I can do about it.

 

Whoops. That makes me realize I forgot to include my load order. Not that it matters, just that it's standard procedure. ... and now I need to figure out how to get the load order list from NMM (Just getting into skyrim, used OBMM for oblivion)

And I don't think I ever enabled it to do log files... >.> (Again... just getting into skyrim )

Edit: Here we go. Oh, and don't think that I was at all saying I thought you had to do anything! Just bringing it up. 

Edit 2: I'll enable logging, replicate the crash, and give you the log!

Edit 3: Okay... now I'm trying to replicate it... and it's not crashing. I have no damn Idea. hah.

Sorted by BOSS

GameMode=Skyrim

Skyrim.esm=1

Update.esm=1

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp=1

Dawnguard.esm=1

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp=1

HearthFires.esm=1

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp=1

Dragonborn.esm=1

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp=1

Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm=1

SexLab.esm=1

SexLabAroused.esm=1

SPIKE.esm=1

TravellersOfSkyrim.esm=1

ZaZAnimationPack.esm=1

HighResTexturePack01.esp=1

HighResTexturePack02.esp=1

HighResTexturePack03.esp=1

Brawl Bugs CE.esp=1

Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp=1

Rainbows.esp=1

SplashofRain.esp=1

Cutting Room Floor.esp=1

BorderSense.esp=1

HoldBorderBanners.esp=1

LoversHook.esp=1

LoversVictim.esp=1

MF_RadiantProstitution.esp=1

MVABasic.esp=1

MVAIvarstead.esp=1

MVARorikstead.esp=1

NPC Bartering.esp=0

Point The Way.esp=1

RWL Option - 3x Giant toes.esp=1

Realistic Wildlife Loot - Reduced.esp=1

Realistic Wildlife Loot - Reduced - Dawnguard patch.esp=1

Realistic Wildlife Loot - Reduced - Dragonborn patch.esp=1

Realistic Wildlife Loot - Reduced - Hearthfires patch.esp=1

RWL_Megaloceros_LVL.esp=1

SexLab STDs.esp=1

SexLabNudeCreatures.esp=1

SexLab_Paycrime.esp=1

SWT1.2.esp=1

SexLabDefeat.esp=1

ShootingStars.esp=1

TravellersOfSkyrim - Vanilla.esp=1

TravellersOfSkyrim - Dragonborn Addon.esp=1

WetandCold.esp=1

Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp=1

Footprints.esp=1

Footprints - Ash.esp=1

SkyUI.esp=1

1nivWICCloaks.esp=1

hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp=1

Immersive Weapons.esp=1

Inconsequential NPCs.esp=1

Inconsequential NPCs - Enhancement.esp=1

Run For Your Lives.esp=1

sanguinesDebauchery.esp=1

SDpatch - dawnguard.esp=1

SDpatch - dragonborn.esp=1

SDpatch - frostfall.esp=1

The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp=1

AchieveThat.esp=1

Dangerous Wolves.esp=1

Death Reload (30 Minutes).esp=1

HorsesGoneWild.esp=1

OpenFaceGuardHelmets.esp=1

RWL_Megaloceros_REPLACER.esp=1

Schlongs of Skyrim.esp=1

SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp=1

SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp=1

SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp=1

SOS - Dawnguard Armors.esp=1

SOS - Dragonborn Armors.esp=1

ArmorDisguises.esp=1

SexLab Solutions.esp=1

SexLab Submit.esp=1

TheChoiceIsYours.esp=1

TheChoiceIsYours_Dawnguard.esp=1

FNISspells.esp=1

Higher Bounties Hold Specific.esp=1

RWL_Bleedout_Perks.esp=1

SexLab Cumshot.esp=1

3DNPC.esp=1

VendorSaleDelay-Gone.esp=1

dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp=1

Death Cam - No Blur.esp=1

Weird bug report. Not even sure if it's worth looking at... but it's odd enough I figured I'd give it.

To run Skyrim in borderless windowed mode (not all the time, just when I'm multitasking, hence the issue not being immediately apparent to me) I use the plugin "OneTweak." So I'm moving the plugin (dll and config) in and out of the plugin folder. The first time I run Skyrim after putting OneTweak in, there is no issue. But the second time I run Skyrim, and I submit to someone, I crash once it's time for the sex animations to start. It's really odd. The look of surprise on my face when I figured out that this was the conflict. Once I remove the OneTweak plugin, I stop crashing.

To be fair, for all I know, OneTweak is causing glitches and issues in other mods too, just not noticable, game crashing ones. But yeah. Weird issue. 

 

Nice, I didn't expect an update so soon!

 

I have a quick question: Is it possible that this mod could work with other Sexlab mods? For instance, SexLab Submit leaves players in a bound state after a player has surrendered to enemies and they've had their way with her. Perhaps SD could give valid NPCs the ability to detect a bound player, and have a chance to initiate slavery from there.

 

Submit is a terrific mod, but without some ability to transition, I could see it and this conflicting.

 

I haven't looked at Submit but that would be a logical integration. The problem here is to make SD be aware of the bound state in submit. I won't be able to tell until I look at submit code.

 

I just wanna throw my voice in and say that I too think this is a cool idea.

(And I'm totally not here, first thinking if my "issue" about binding was from SD, then realizing it is probably from submit. (it seems being bound in SD you can move around, which was confusing me since I couldn't. (I was bound after submitting via SexLab submit.) Then I realized that submit also has a bound feature. (Look at all of these parentheses. Look at them.)))

I completely support the idea of sobbing after rape, although I believe it should reduce in frequency as time goes on. Sure, the first time being raped is quite a shock, but I don't think you'd still cry after most of your adventures ended this way. In fact, the player character, depending on their personnality, might even develop a liking for it.

This seems to be the standard "method of operation" for most rape tales/rps/characters/what-have-you, but to be honest (And I am not bashing those who go that way, just offering a different view) I prefer to rp it in the opposite direction. Once a character has been subjected to the trauma of rape once, they have a STRONG aversion to anything resembling it, even to the point of ptsd tendencies, lashing out or attacking at people, or simply steering clear of things that give her a "bad vibe." ("Not that... not again... anything but that.") To me, that's a far more compelling rp direction to take than "Well, I'm just getting used to the rape now." (Again, I Completely get the appeal of it. It's just not for me. That's all. ) I'll even say this: I do have my characters "break down" perhaps, and "get used" to getting raped. BUT. It's only for one "sequence" of events. That one quest, one cave, that one "chapter" of her experience. Walking in full of confidence, then the creatures/bad guys are more powerful than she thought, and that first shock of loss and violation. Yes, as/if she continues through that particular adventure, she learns to steel herself against the trauma, should it happen again. However, once that event has passed, and her mind has had a chance to come back to normal existence, anything that might pull her back to the trauma again is a horrifying prospect for her.

At least that's how I rp it, hah. 

Needless to say, I'm in support of this mod idea.

Edit: /me is an idiot and uses the wrong formatting. He fixes it. ;P

The SD+ patch we are working on softens the mechanical aspect of SD and makes enslavement both more dynamic and roleplay friendly. 

 

You can find yourself enslaved to almost anyone, even important, unkillable characters (I haven't tried with Ulric yet ).

 

You can easily break free if your master has limited AI packages and just stands there.

 

You can decide how long enslavement will take and at the same time, have a challenging escape (with the upcoming update which will be out in a few days).

I will wait for the patch then! =D Good luck in your work!

It's both, depending on how you want to play the slave part.

 

If you run away a lot and anger your master, you will receive option 2.

If you are submissive and please your master a lot, you will get #1.

 

That too is a simplification

... But I am the sort who never submits and always fights and never just submits and tries to please... but I find slaves and thugs doing BDSM toys to be silly... T_T Dammit. (I'm more of the sort of... raped... hating them... if I try to escape they'll just try and beat me back down/hold me and bind me and keep me restrained once more, and I am continued to be subject to their whims toward using my body, hah. Not really a fan of the "broken/unbroken" dynamic...)

((But seriously, thank you for the answer, and again, I'm not knocking the mod. Just my own perferences. Again, thanks for the answer. Even if it's a simplification. ))

Either way... I guess I might try out the mod, hah. Maybe.

Edit: I guess a good way to simplify my preferences would be to say that it's all about "Primal" force/enslavement as opposed to "Mechanical" force/enslavement.

Damn. I feel like an ignorant asshole, but I looked around through a few (dozen) or so pages (and yes, I realize there are far more than that), read through the intro post, googled "sanguine's debauchery" on google image search, but I still can't seem to find something that quite answers my question. So blah. I apologize in advance for asking something so silly, but here goes:

What's in this mod? As in: I read that in this mod, the player gets enslaved (Edit: And yes, I know that is a gross over-simplification). But, knowing "kink mods," this enslavement could go one of two ways. 

1: The player is subject to rape and violation. Be it from one "owner" or a group of owners or what have you, the point is, they are captured, help captive, and used sexually. However, the way they are used sexually is just that: a want of their masters to receive sexual gratification. In short, the throw the slave down, they fuck the slave, have their way, and that's that. 

2: The player is captured, and is now a "slave." They will be strung up in various bondage gear, chains, devices, all sorts of things. Whipped, flogged, given random gags, collars, bindings, and tortured in various ways. The rape is just a part of this. 

For my own personal enjoyment I'm hoping it's more towards number 1... of course, nothing wrong with option 2, I just get no enjoyment from that. So, if anyone cares to enlighten me, you have my thanks in advance. Sorry again for the weird question. I'm picky about my rape content, hah. (Or to be more specific, I'm picky about my BDSM/D/s/etc content, and what I find pleasing in fantasy to compared to what I find pleasing in reality... but that's going into a whole 'nother topic.)

Edit 2: So I'm continuing to search... I've found something about some locations having cages. But that's it. Cages are potentially fine, depending. I'll keep looking, hah. Just don't want people to think I just asked the question and gave up looking for the answer myself! I've also found some references to blindfolds and shackles, of course. But I can't tell if these items are used in a way that's more simply about binding/restricting the character, or if they are used in a more "BDSM"/sexual sense... 

Edit 3: to clarify more: things like using toys and things like that I just find... silly, from my own rp mindset. So that would be a big "no" for the mod. I found "Nonetheless, before the gag was equipped, the master decided to first insert the anal beads from this mod.  All said and done with, my poor girl is now bound, blindfolded, gagged, whipped, and plugged.  Too awesome!" but I'm also finding someone saying that that never happened to them so... I still don't know. T_T

You know what I love about Skyrim? The Khajiit and Argonians. I swear. The both look just... right, and sound amazing. The Khajiits just make me feel all warm, fuzzy, and happy just to listen to them. And there is something wonderfully... honest and truthful about the Argonians. They are the saving grace of Riften. My rage at Brynjolf's lying, scummy, sleazy voice is so very much soothed when I step to the stall next door and listen to the honest and sincere voice of the Argonian shop vendor, or head to the Bee and Barb and talk to Talen-Jei. I just wish there were a few more Khajiit and Argonians in Skyriim. I would LOVE to visit Leyawiin again... but with the Skyrim "touch" applied to it.

It's certainly not a "game," but since "MMO adult playgrounds" are being brought up, I'll mention it as I've mentioned it elsewhere: screw the "Red Light Center" and other weird "sex mmo" things, just get on Second Life instead. Second life has it's fair share of problems, creeps, and all of that. (And a steep-as-hell learning curve, if you have no idea what you are doing. You need to put in the effort in order to get any enjoyment out of it.) And yes, there are things that can cost you, it all depends on what you want to do. There are "lucky boards" and hunts that you can go on to get free stuff, or just buy things for your avatar and whatnot. And yes, most of the sexual interaction is based on interacting with another actual person, and I recognize that not everyone wants that. But still, if the sex MMO's are being considered an option, I really do think that SL should be as well. It's not limited to one person's idea of what the sexual content should be. Anyone can create anything in it.

(And if anyone does have an interest in Second Life or something, and has questions or anything, feel free to pm me or just ask here, and I can do my best to help. )

Sword

Of

The

Fucking

Stars. 

<3

And not the shitty sequel. Fuck your mission system.

Men have been programed to act a particular way, just as women have.  Step outside those boundaries and you're looking for trouble, at least so far as what people think of you.  When do I hug female friends?  On a regular basis.  When was the last time I hugged a male friend?  Ten years ago, right after college.  My closest college friend who I figured I'd never see again.  On the monthly occasions when I visit with my old high school friend, we end our visits with a handshake, because we're guys, and that's just the way it is in this society.  He's my closest male friend, I'd love to depart with a hug, but it's just not the way things are done in this country.

:'(

(And no... I'm not being sarcastic. Sometimes... I wish I was female, so I could give everyone hugs and it not be strange...)

I got Legend of Grimrock on sale... for something like 2.50. I'm only on floor two at the moment, but so far, it's been an amazing experience. Really fun, solid, "old-school" feeling game. Is it a replacement or competitor to modern rpgs like Skyrim or what-have-you? Nah. It's just something completely apart from them, and that's fine. 

Clearly, you're not as attracted to them as you say. I've had many female friends. It's only a matter of time. Gender will become more apparent to you when you see them in lingerie...

 

It's different when they know you like them before you become friends. The topic will come up again, and it will be awkward. IF you actually like them that way, or find yourself highly attracted to them. Sometimes, the girl you're friends with is exactly what you're looking for.

Heh.

Found an old post that I absolutely love. 

 

"Whoever spread the ubiquitous idea that "lasting for hours" makes a guy good in bed should be shot."

 

Whoever spread the ubiquitous idea that there is such a thing as being good in bed should be shot.

 

You can spend fifty years refining your technique at something, but if it doesn't turn your partner on, it won't work and that's all there is to it.

 

Ultimately, being "good in bed" is practically synonymous with being communicative and being a good listener.

Fucking. Truth.

IMO, guys are meant to hook up with girls, and girls are meant to hook up with guys. Go ahead...try to be friends. If you find them attractive, or they find you attractive, then you've got an emotional rollercoaster on your hands. A disaster, just waiting to happen. If a guy's nice to you, and wants to hang out with you, or call you, or anything like that, he wants you. Period. Being "friends" with someone you know likes you is cruel. Cut it out!!

Sometimes you can't have some things. That's okay. There is nothing wrong with a relationship developing to another branch than what might have happened. I say this as someone with friends who are women. Some are in relationships. Some are not. Am I attracted them? Yup, I'm attracted to a lot of women. And you know what? I'm okay with being friends with them, it sure as hell isn't "cruel" of them to do that to me. In fact, it's quite wonderful.

I'm nice to people because I try to be a decent human being.

The most important thing is to simply be... emotionally flexible? Bah. I feel that's far too cold a term for it. I don't know. Just view people as human beings first, not as their gender. I'm not saying don't see their gender, we all do that. But just because I'm friends with someone, and they are a woman, doesn't mean I'm hurting because I don't get to fuck her. I'm friends with her. That's great, and that's all I need from her. If one day, one of these female friends was like "hey, I'm interested in more" I might be like "okay" for some of them. For some of them maybe not. It's all based on the individual. Hell. I think I'm just rambling without a goal or purpose now. 

But yeah. Women who are friends with me who I find attractive: don't cut it out. You are more to me than just a goal, a prize, a trophy, or a conquest. You are a human being, and I value you as such.

THIS IS SO FUCKING SEXY I LOVE THIS SO FUCKING MUCH STRING INSTRUMENTS GIVE ME A RAGING ERECTION.

TRAILER VERSION:

>http://youtu.be/pWKAOkgEVgw

FULL VERSION:

>http://youtu.be/d689QT0nEY4

AND I DON'T EVEN HAVE THE FUCKING GAME.

I suppose this is more of a movie recommendation than a positive thought... but still. It's Charlie Chaplin. That man is a living positive thought.

>http://youtu.be/bDkM0ux6H50

Really good movie.

>http://youtu.be/oHv6vTKD6lg

Try it. I did.

I have to admit, I love it when it's time to make our posts in my class's blog, and all of the other posts already made are "Yes, I agree with teacher," "Yes, I agree with teacher," "Yes, I agree with teacher," "What we have been taught is correct," "I think what we were taught is right," "The teacher was right," "Yes, this is the correct way," and then for mine...

http://youtu.be/ARDhJ2dpuYU?t=47s

Career mode in Kerbal Space Program: FUCKING. AWESOME. 

SCIENCE

 

studies show that fidgeting, pacing and other unconscious movements can contribute to a greater total

calorie burn than formal exercise does.

Well no wonder I've been able to keep off any large amount of excess weight, without me exercising any. XD

Oh how that gets me every time...

I was like, why have them talk gibberish, it took just as much time and effort to  have people talk all weird but then I thought, why not, no translations less cost, but still weird to listen to.

I just recently made a post talking about something similar to this, and it's something I find rather interesting.

I've discovered that a big reason I am able to enjoy Japanese games/hentai/movies, is that when it comes to the voice, I don't understand what they are saying, and this means that I am forced to fill in the gaps mentally - this leads to me filling it in with what I like. The problem with the English voice, is that there is no gap to fill.

Basically, if they recorded someone saying "god dammit, I'm so pissed off!" then everytime you saw your sim get mad, they would say "god dammit, I'm so pissed off!" every time, or whatever other phrases were recorded. But intsead, we have "Rargenflaggenshoppada!" and our brains put in exactly what we feel they would be saying: we fill in the gaps, and make that same recording played in different scenarios have completely different meanings and emotions depending on the context. I think that having them speak "simlish" is honestly a wonderful thing. It makes the world more full, and real, via forcing you to use your imagination. At least that's my own view on it.