Maviaux

The way I see it; There isn't a solution for this specific problem, not one that can be easily applied anyway.   Now I'm not a naysayer, pessimist, or some dubious asshole looking to take down corporations, this is just my point of view on it.   To solve this problem would mean solving the issues behind some of the issues that come with human nature; greed, curiosity, entitlement and ignorance. No matter the solution, there will always be those that are pissed off mods are being sold, those that want to make money selling mods, and those that will buy mods that are sold as well as those that boycott companies cause of it. You can't please everyone and there's no easy button for a subject like this, a bit obvious to some but not so much to others.   This latest fiasco showed us one thing; people don't change, doubly so when it's a notion set in stone. Paid modding is a concept very few people will come to grasp, if they ever do. Mods have always been free, that's just the rule that's set in stone like a cultural tradition and to break it is sacrilege to many - which led to this sad business of several modders being chased and threatened right out of the modding scene like witches running from the witch hunt. Even if Skyrim had been released with paid modding I honestly feel this same issue would have come to pass eventually as people began to complain about the very same things they complained about this time around; shoddy work, requirements to actually make the game playable, advertisements (cough), the list goes on forever and ever, there was a lot of complaining.   I don't believe for a second this is our last scrape with paid modding, but I'm not going to say this is the end of the community or modding in general, that's a silly and over dramatic generalization. Paid modding came and went and for the most part the community is still here, mods are still being made, and while we lost some very talented individuals, it just makes way for some new talent to come forth and blow our minds with some potentially awesome creations.   While not quite a solution, but more of an acceptance; It happened, big whoop, it's gone for now and people are worrying about the 'what ifs' instead of the 'now what'. Everyone learned from this; Modders, mod users, Valve and Beth, and no one here can pretend to know what anyone other than themselves plans to do with what they've learned until it's tested whenever paid modding creeps up again.   TL;DR: Lesson learned, dumb shit happened all around, no one can see into the future and the best we can do is wait.

Fantastic news, now people will be quiet until some other travesty happens and the best part...   I get to watch the mod makers that went behind the paywall wiggle around trying to figure out what to do now.

  Nightasy no. ; w;

  This sounds like a case of bad parenting and disobedient children, wouldn't blame this on Steam/Valve/Beth, specifically. Dirty little thieving rugrats.

The worst part about all this is that even if the Workshop mod selling fails and it's all taken down, the damage is already done to the community and there will be very little if anything anyone can say was positive that came from it.   The modders that joined the curated workshop may have had a fairly scumbag approach about it (in-game advertisements, shame on you xilverbullet) but I like to think there's enough humanity drifting around to forgive them, but it will never be forgotten what they did and that will haunt them until the end of their modding careers. I wonder if they even considered the possibility that this all might fail and just punch them in the face, enraging and alienating the very community that made them as big and popular as they are.   Is a few dollars really with tossing yourself on the sword? The gamble is huge and even in the very best circumstances, they're still getting absolutely slaughtered. Chesko was practically attached to a fishing pole and dangled out over a pit of rabid badgers and has what to show for it? Nothing. Nothing but some humiliation and causing a schism between himself and his follower base.   And this is going to be the exact same scenario that's going to play out over and over. Grace Darkling (who I thought was a pretty cool lady) turns out to be really scummy and she doesn't have nearly the following Chesko did. She literally just ruined her internet reputation and while that's not important to a lot of people, to a modder your internet reputation is bloody everything. I could go on and on about everyone else who pretty much said 'fuck community, I want money' because no matter how anyone colors it or sugar coats it, that's what it comes down to.   I honestly feel sorry for the modders, there must be some dire straits or unrequited desires that would push them to give up such a large cut of money, support this type of practice, and then try to tell everyone else that's telling them they're letting Beth/Valve rip them off to calm down and deal with it.   PS: Man, GabeN is one ice cold dude. He'd be a good villain.

If the man doesn't want a fake dick in his ass he should have the right to not have one crammed up there without being scrutinized. Goodness.   Question has been answered(?) a few times over, let's see who else comes in here to drop their opinion on 'gay' stuff and OP's preferences.

Oooooh, is it elf post time? I can dig it. (This will be the post that gets the thread locked)   I personally adore the way elves look in TES. I don't know the lore, won't pretend I do, but they're something different from the fair-skinned blonde rabbits portrayed in most mainstream media.   Leaving with some dunmer.  

Can't speak for everyone but personally I've never boycotted a company and never plan to. Unity had issues, yes, most games that come out in this day and age do and they're either fixed or left to wallow forever. While Unity may have been a miss, the next one might be fantastic (Shao Jun would be too cool).   My SO has boycotted anything with EA on it and while she's saved some money and frustrations, she's missed out on some great games that are actually fun and enjoyable too. I may be too forgiving of terrible company practices and too willing to overlook flaws to play a game, but I consider myself a gamer, not a protester.   I also don't but Speshul Deeluke Editions, just more money to spend on nonsense I don't need, like food.   As long as games like Unity don't become a constant thing, Ubisoft is already forgiven as far as I'm concerned..

  So yeah, a black hole.

Nexus and LL are two totally different sites with two totally different communities that view each other through some really tinted spectacles.   Went and summed up this entire topic and the majority of  similar topics in a single sentence. This devolved into another anti-Nexus black hole so fast. What happened to posting more ass and titty mods? I like LL better when there's less of this nonsense and more sex.

Skyrim has a storyline? Huh.

What.   Out of nowhere; philosophy.

  No clue what I was supposed to be looking for in that mile-long string of pictures but at least it was in spoilers! As for the original post, the armor and everything else in that picture was likely done with a rendering model program thingy.  

  I think the careers of the folks working public relations might suffer a bit.   Teehee.

Ouch.