TheChosenSir

In my Skyrim, its very rare for me to be able to load a gamesave directly into Skyrim. I first have to load a savefile of my character in something like Alternate Start's Abandoned Prison then load into the save or I will CTD. Then when I'm ingame literally and randomly just CTDs without set conditions and I usually get similar stuff in the papyrus logs, but I honestly don't understand any of it. It's becoming so annoying that my average Skyrim playthrough without CTDs is about 5-10 minutes long maximum which is preventing me from enjoying the game. I have even tried deleting all my saves and starting new playthroughs and using TES5Edit to clean my dirty plugins yet nothing seems to be fixed.   If you require anything to help me solve this problem please tell me and I will reply ASAP.   System Specs :    00  Skyrim.esm01  Update.esm02  Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp  [Version 2.0.3]03  Dawnguard.esm04  Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp  [Version 2.0.3]05  HearthFires.esm06  Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp  [Version 2.0.3]07  Dragonborn.esm08  Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp  [Version 2.0.3]09  RaceCompatibility.esm  [Version 1.60a]0A  CreatureFramework.esm  [Version 1.0.0]0B  ClimatesOfTamriel.esm0C  ApachiiHairFemales.esm0D  SexLab.esm  [Version 1.59b]0E  Devious Devices - Assets.esm  [Version 2.8.3]0F  AzarHair.esm10  hdtHighHeel.esm11  Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm12  ApachiiHairMales.esm13  PSQ PlayerSuccubusQuest.esm14  Nock2Tip.esm15  BBLuxurySuite.esm16  ZaZAnimationPack.esm17  RSkyrimChildren.esm18  SexLabAroused.esm19  Devious Devices - Integration.esm1A  daymoyl.esm1B  ApachiiHair.esm1C  SGHairPackBase.esm1D  TERAArmors.esm1E  HighResTexturePack01.esp1F  HighResTexturePack02.esp20  HighResTexturePack03.esp21  FS_Ygrayne.esp22  ViewableFactionRanksBothDLC.esp23  MarblePhantasm.esp24  AncientTonguesGreatSword.esp25  Bishop.esp26  AMatterOfTime.esp  [Version 2.00]27  Tropicalpack.esp28  AncientTonguesSword.esp29  NS_HuntingGroundsOutfit.esp2A  Bishu Osafune ju Morikage.esp2B  dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp2C  Jahiya.esp2D  BlackSacramentDBReplacer.esp2E  DSerULG.esp2F  silverknight.esp30  Facelight.esp31  Matera.esp32  EoGeom.esp33  Blood Raven - 7B BBP.esp34  AzarHair.esp35  CharacterMakingExtender.esp36  SeraphineHuntedArmor.esp37  USKP Patcher for RaceCompatibility.esp38  DaedricCrossbow.esp39  DarkStandalone.esp3A  CrimsonTwilightArmor.esp3B  ImmersiveLoversComfort.esp3C  Cazy Hairs-by zzjay.esp3D  Hair Physics Project.esp3E  elucidator.esp3F  AHZmoreHUD.esp  [Version 2.1.3]40  Apropos.esp41  ElementalArrows.esp42  darkknightarmor.esp43  dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp44  UBW.esp45  Succubus Queen Attire.esp46  UltimateDragons.esp47  EquipDragonTails.esp48  Extended UI.esp  [Version 1.2.0d]49  lilithssickle.esp4A  ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp4B  EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp4C  Extended Slider Colors.esp4D  MoreNastyCritters.esp4E  FaceMasksOfSkyrim.esp4F  Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp50  Forbidden Ebony Armor.esp51  FS_Skycutter.esp52  FS_SwordofTruth.esp53  Animated Dragon Wings.esp54  GDZZJJDH.esp55  DragonQueen.esp56  FS_UltimateAssortment.esp57  Bishu Osafune-ju Morikage.esp58  HDT Female Hairstyles.esp59  Halo's Poser.esp5A  SCO Summer Edition.esp  [Version 1.0]5B  SCO Summer Edition - CoT Patch.esp5C  HDT Capes.esp5D  HDT Physics Weapon Sling.esp5E  Eyes of Aber.esp5F  HDT TestSkirts.esp60  HDTHair_Sky201.esp61  SexLabFuck'EmUp.esp62  HelmetToggle2.02b.esp63  HHairstyles.esp64  SexLabDefeat.esp65  JKs Cities and Towns V1.0.esp66  SerialStrip.esp67  [HongMun_Coat].esp68  Witch Of The Wild.esp69  iActivate.esp6A  iActivate - USKP.esp6B  iHUD.esp6C  numenume femalebrows MARO.esp6D  ELE-Spell and Torch Lighting.esp6E  Opeth_torch.esp6F  KCEBattleClaws.esp70  BlacktalonArmorV11UNP.esp71  MidnightBreed.esp72  Minou Maid Suit CBBE TBBP.esp73  Modern.esp74  MomoDash.esp75  IridumEyes2.0.esp76  More Draconic Dragon Aspect - Powered Edition.esp77  More Draconic Dragon Aspect - Wings and Tail.esp78  Schlongs of Skyrim.esp79  SexLab TDF Aggressive Prostitution.esp7A  Nisit.esp7B  ScarletDawnArmor.esp7C  Northgirl.esp7D  NusbieVoices.esp7E  Pinup Poser.esp7F  FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp80  Remove Interior Fog V2 - Full Version.esp81  RhoAias.esp82  FS_NamelessLight.esp83  TheEyesOfBeauty.esp  [Version 9]84  SexLabNudeCreatures.esp85  SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp86  SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp87  SexLab_DibellaCult.esp88  Hunting in Skyrim.esp89  RSChildren - Complete.esp8A  RSChildren_PatchUSKP.esp8B  Holidays.esp8C  Further Dark Dungeons for ENB.esp8D  Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp8E  HentaiCreatures.esp8F  Fenrir.esp90  UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp91  BTRH_Waifu.esp92  MBWSHeroinesRG_Frea.esp93  HousecarlRiften.esp94  Seductress Elizabeth.esp95  SexLab_DibellaCult_BBL.esp96  BBLSapachii.esp97  SGHair33x144.esp98  SGHairPackAIO.esp99  SkyCompleteLegendary.esp9A  SkyRealism - Grass.esp  [Version 1.0.]9B  SkyUI.esp9C  AchieveThat.esp9D  SOS - ERF Equipable Horse Penis.esp9E  SOS - ERF Horse Penis Addon.esp9F  SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.espA0  SSv2.espA1  Supreme Storms - Cot Version.espA2  TERA Boots n Greaves - for HDT.espA3  tweak_fog-AmbL_c.espA4  RevampedExteriorFog.espA5  rain_fog_storm_fix.espA6  ENB Snow FX.espA7  VindictusDevilHunter.espA8  Wintermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.espA9  Tera Armor Level List.espAA  P1FlyingRing.espAB  More Draconic Dragon Aspect - Flying Mod Addon.espAC  xazPrisonOverhaul.espAD  lake_house.espAE  AnniFollowersWingless.espAF  NorthernCardinal.espB0  SexLab Theft and Seduction.espB1  Immersive Patrols II.espB2  Agatha Follower.espB3  Elisdriel.espB4  Nock2Tip.espB5  TrissArmorRetextured.espB6  SKY_Girls.espB7  SexLab_Paycrime.espB8  Signs_of_Skyrim.espB9  BBLuxurySuiteExt.espBA  SexLab-AmorousAdventures.espBB  Skyrim Horses Renewal.espBC  BBLSVisitors.espBD  CollegeDaysWinterhold.espBE  Draconic Bloodline.espBF  Devious Deviants.espC0  AngrimApprentice.espC1  SexLab Dangerously Nude.espC2  SOS - Shop.espC3  FNISspells.espC4  daymoyl_DawnguardAddon.espC5  Sweet&Sexy Lingerie.espC6  AetherSuite.espC7  AAPersonalApt.espC8  PerkusMaximus_Master.espC9  PerkusMaximus_Warrior.espCA  PerkusMaximus_Thief.espCB  PerMa Expansion 1 - Wintermyst.espCC  PerkusMaximus_Mage.espCD  Nihel.espCE  The Huntsman.esp  [Version 1.0]CF  Faction Crossbows.espD0  Dr_Bandolier.espD1  TemptressVixen.espD2  Dwemertech - Magic of the Dwarves.espD3  Elpelin Pinegrove.espD4  Darklilith.espD5  MeeraFollower.espD6  rtZuleikaFollower.espD7  BBLSHousecarlsmovein.espD8  BBLSspouse.espD9  BlackSacramentArmor.espDA  Apocalypse - The Spell Package.espDB  bm_SimpleAction.espDC  BTRH_Izo.espDD  SexLab Romance.espDE  Dwemer Spectres Legendary.espDF  Hikari.espE0  Kawaii Face Presets.espE1  Kawaii Face Presets2.espE2  ApachiiHelmetWigs.espE3  Mavari Armor.espE4  Neo's Oriental Dress.espE5  NewDrapedDress1.espE6  Toccata.espE7  runesword stormbringer.espE8  Beauties of Skyrim.espE9  PerMaExtendedPerkDescriptions.espEA  Dread Huntress Armor.espEB  yurica_musketeer [HDT].espEC  zzEstrus.espED  [KijikoHair_MalePack].espEE  _sunya.espEF  _aya_zelaII.espF0  aya_099.espF1  Lamae.espF2  Natalya Follower.espF3  EpicElves by zzjay.espF4  SuccubusRaceLite.espF5  Sabrina.espF6  DF_Dianest.espF7  Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp  [Version 3.0.1]F8  da_alternate_start_extension.espF9  SexLabSolutions_LAL_Patch.espFA  KCEUnarmedBladeSound.esp   Attached below is my latest Papyrus.0 log since I have no idea how to put so much text into a spoiler as it doesn't seem to work for me.   ~Thanks in advance! <3   Papyrus.0.log  

1) No, I use NMM as when I tried MO it was a bit too tedious and difficult for me especially when I already have a large mod collection installed and it would have taken a lot of time I don't have to set it up again with MO.   2) RaceCompatibility is provided from ECE and I'm close to sure that it's not being overwritten.   3) I use the Succubus Race just to see how my different presets look on different custom bodies (I tend to switch bodies and compare a lot so I like having a few custom races.) and rarely use it for gameplay (I have once but that was a long time ago when my mod collection was much smaller and I didn't have CTDs compared to this.)   4)I used to use RaceMenu but its much easier for me to work with ECE as they are more preset friendly and I am more familiar with as I like to constantly change my character's appearance.    5)Actually I haven't really though about following S.T.E.P. guides but I will start reading them ASAP since you recommended them.   6)To be honest I actually didn't. I just added it into the SKSE.ini file and I will download Shesons Memory Patch as well.   I will also try the Skytweak thing later (along with the S.T.E.P. guides) because I am exhausted at the moment but anyway thanks for everyone who gave me advice.   On a side note ; I don't know if it's because you guys or some miracle but my average playtime is now almost doubled! Today I played for about 20-30 minutes before I got a CTD (due to opening a journal which is one of the random menu-wise CTDs I get) (also it takes me half a minute to get back in playthrough so if a CTD happens I can get right back on and play as I constantly quicksave) so thanks to all who helped and I appreciate it! I will still take more advice as more people pass by! 

  Following your advice, I disabled Estrus and used the save game script cleaner and it CTD'd when loading directly onto an open world save. This was the resulting Papyrus. (It would load and when music would play and it would enter the game world it just CTDs) Papyrus.0.log   Then I tried my casual way of loading my saves so I am able to play.... and same thing. I think there is something predictable though as I'm trying to complete one of my (it's a mod) quests that takes me to a Hagraven Nest outside of Riften and when I pass by a certain area of the road that takes me there it CTDs so it did not make much of a difference. Papyrus.0.log   Then I disabled Papyrus logging to see if that will make a slight difference. It did not.   Edit : My CTDs can also include just me starting to go a bit fast with casting spells, sprinting head on, or even quickly opening my items menu to equip some armor. They really are random. Sometimes they include when I enter areas but when I come back later to play again I can actually load into that area next time so I think the problem here is aimed at a script-wise setting.

00  Skyrim.esm01  Update.esm02  Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp  [Version 2.0.3]03  Dawnguard.esm04  Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp  [Version 2.0.3]05  HearthFires.esm06  Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp  [Version 2.0.3]07  Dragonborn.esm08  Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp  [Version 2.0.3]09  RaceCompatibility.esm  [Version 1.60a]0A  CreatureFramework.esm  [Version 1.0.0]0B  ClimatesOfTamriel.esm0C  ApachiiHairFemales.esm0D  SexLab.esm  [Version 1.59b]0E  Devious Devices - Assets.esm  [Version 2.8.3]0F  AzarHair.esm10  hdtHighHeel.esm11  Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm12  ApachiiHairMales.esm13  PSQ PlayerSuccubusQuest.esm14  Nock2Tip.esm15  BBLuxurySuite.esm16  ZaZAnimationPack.esm17  RSkyrimChildren.esm18  SexLabAroused.esm19  Devious Devices - Integration.esm1A  daymoyl.esm1B  ApachiiHair.esm1C  SGHairPackBase.esm1D  TERAArmors.esm1E  HighResTexturePack01.esp1F  HighResTexturePack02.esp20  HighResTexturePack03.esp21  FS_Ygrayne.esp22  ViewableFactionRanksBothDLC.esp23  MarblePhantasm.esp24  AncientTonguesGreatSword.esp25  Bishop.esp26  AMatterOfTime.esp  [Version 2.00]27  Tropicalpack.esp28  AncientTonguesSword.esp29  NS_HuntingGroundsOutfit.esp2A  Bishu Osafune ju Morikage.esp2B  dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp2C  Jahiya.esp2D  BlackSacramentDBReplacer.esp2E  DSerULG.esp2F  silverknight.esp30  Facelight.esp31  Matera.esp32  EoGeom.esp33  Blood Raven - 7B BBP.esp34  AzarHair.esp35  CharacterMakingExtender.esp36  SeraphineHuntedArmor.esp37  USKP Patcher for RaceCompatibility.esp38  DaedricCrossbow.esp39  DarkStandalone.esp3A  CrimsonTwilightArmor.esp3B  ImmersiveLoversComfort.esp3C  Cazy Hairs-by zzjay.esp3D  Hair Physics Project.esp3E  elucidator.esp3F  AHZmoreHUD.esp  [Version 2.1.3]40  Apropos.esp41  ElementalArrows.esp42  darkknightarmor.esp43  dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp44  UBW.esp45  Succubus Queen Attire.esp46  UltimateDragons.esp47  EquipDragonTails.esp48  Extended UI.esp  [Version 1.2.0d]49  lilithssickle.esp4A  ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp4B  EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp4C  Extended Slider Colors.esp4D  MoreNastyCritters.esp4E  FaceMasksOfSkyrim.esp4F  Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp50  Forbidden Ebony Armor.esp51  FS_Skycutter.esp52  FS_SwordofTruth.esp53  Animated Dragon Wings.esp54  GDZZJJDH.esp55  DragonQueen.esp56  FS_UltimateAssortment.esp57  Bishu Osafune-ju Morikage.esp58  HDT Female Hairstyles.esp59  Halo's Poser.esp5A  SCO Summer Edition.esp  [Version 1.0]5B  SCO Summer Edition - CoT Patch.esp5C  HDT Capes.esp5D  HDT Physics Weapon Sling.esp5E  Eyes of Aber.esp5F  HDT TestSkirts.esp60  HDTHair_Sky201.esp61  SexLabFuck'EmUp.esp62  HelmetToggle2.02b.esp63  HHairstyles.esp64  SexLabDefeat.esp65  JKs Cities and Towns V1.0.esp66  SerialStrip.esp67  [HongMun_Coat].esp68  Witch Of The Wild.esp69  iActivate.esp6A  iActivate - USKP.esp6B  iHUD.esp6C  numenume femalebrows MARO.esp6D  ELE-Spell and Torch Lighting.esp6E  Opeth_torch.esp6F  KCEBattleClaws.esp70  BlacktalonArmorV11UNP.esp71  MidnightBreed.esp72  Minou Maid Suit CBBE TBBP.esp73  Modern.esp74  MomoDash.esp75  IridumEyes2.0.esp76  More Draconic Dragon Aspect - Powered Edition.esp77  More Draconic Dragon Aspect - Wings and Tail.esp78  Schlongs of Skyrim.esp79  SexLab TDF Aggressive Prostitution.esp7A  Nisit.esp7B  ScarletDawnArmor.esp7C  Northgirl.esp7D  NusbieVoices.esp7E  Pinup Poser.esp7F  FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp80  Remove Interior Fog V2 - Full Version.esp81  RhoAias.esp82  FS_NamelessLight.esp83  TheEyesOfBeauty.esp  [Version 9]84  SexLabNudeCreatures.esp85  SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp86  SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp87  SexLab_DibellaCult.esp88  Hunting in Skyrim.esp89  RSChildren - Complete.esp8A  RSChildren_PatchUSKP.esp8B  Holidays.esp8C  Further Dark Dungeons for ENB.esp8D  Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp8E  HentaiCreatures.esp8F  Fenrir.esp90  UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp91  BTRH_Waifu.esp92  MBWSHeroinesRG_Frea.esp93  HousecarlRiften.esp94  Seductress Elizabeth.esp95  SexLab_DibellaCult_BBL.esp96  BBLSapachii.esp97  SGHair33x144.esp98  SGHairPackAIO.esp99  SkyCompleteLegendary.esp9A  SkyRealism - Grass.esp  [Version 1.0.]9B  SkyUI.esp9C  AchieveThat.esp9D  SOS - ERF Equipable Horse Penis.esp9E  SOS - ERF Horse Penis Addon.esp9F  SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.espA0  SSv2.espA1  Supreme Storms - Cot Version.espA2  TERA Boots n Greaves - for HDT.espA3  tweak_fog-AmbL_c.espA4  RevampedExteriorFog.espA5  rain_fog_storm_fix.espA6  ENB Snow FX.espA7  VindictusDevilHunter.espA8  Wintermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.espA9  Tera Armor Level List.espAA  P1FlyingRing.espAB  More Draconic Dragon Aspect - Flying Mod Addon.espAC  xazPrisonOverhaul.espAD  lake_house.espAE  AnniFollowersWingless.espAF  NorthernCardinal.espB0  SexLab Theft and Seduction.espB1  Immersive Patrols II.espB2  Agatha Follower.espB3  Elisdriel.espB4  Nock2Tip.espB5  TrissArmorRetextured.espB6  SKY_Girls.espB7  SexLab_Paycrime.espB8  Signs_of_Skyrim.espB9  BBLuxurySuiteExt.espBA  SexLab-AmorousAdventures.espBB  Skyrim Horses Renewal.espBC  BBLSVisitors.espBD  CollegeDaysWinterhold.espBE  Draconic Bloodline.espBF  Devious Deviants.espC0  AngrimApprentice.espC1  SexLab Dangerously Nude.espC2  SOS - Shop.espC3  FNISspells.espC4  daymoyl_DawnguardAddon.espC5  Sweet&Sexy Lingerie.espC6  AetherSuite.espC7  AAPersonalApt.espC8  PerkusMaximus_Master.espC9  PerkusMaximus_Warrior.espCA  PerkusMaximus_Thief.espCB  PerMa Expansion 1 - Wintermyst.espCC  PerkusMaximus_Mage.espCD  Nihel.espCE  The Huntsman.esp  [Version 1.0]CF  Faction Crossbows.espD0  Dr_Bandolier.espD1  TemptressVixen.espD2  Dwemertech - Magic of the Dwarves.espD3  Elpelin Pinegrove.espD4  Darklilith.espD5  MeeraFollower.espD6  rtZuleikaFollower.espD7  BBLSHousecarlsmovein.espD8  BBLSspouse.espD9  BlackSacramentArmor.espDA  Apocalypse - The Spell Package.espDB  bm_SimpleAction.espDC  BTRH_Izo.espDD  SexLab Romance.espDE  Dwemer Spectres Legendary.espDF  Hikari.espE0  Kawaii Face Presets.espE1  Kawaii Face Presets2.espE2  ApachiiHelmetWigs.espE3  Mavari Armor.espE4  Neo's Oriental Dress.espE5  NewDrapedDress1.espE6  Toccata.espE7  runesword stormbringer.espE8  Beauties of Skyrim.espE9  PerMaExtendedPerkDescriptions.espEA  Dread Huntress Armor.espEB  yurica_musketeer [HDT].espEC  zzEstrus.espED  [KijikoHair_MalePack].espEE  _sunya.espEF  _aya_zelaII.espF0  aya_099.espF1  Lamae.espF2  Natalya Follower.espF3  EpicElves by zzjay.espF4  SuccubusRaceLite.espF5  Sabrina.espF6  DF_Dianest.espF7  Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp  [Version 3.0.1]F8  da_alternate_start_extension.espF9  SexLabSolutions_LAL_Patch.espFA  KCEUnarmedBladeSound.esp

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