Med111

I think the main issue currently is that there isn't a core sex mod at the moment. It's unfortunate in this case that it's so difficult to get around the whole animation issue Bethesda left us. Once a framework is done though' date=' I would imagine a lot more standard sex mods would start to show up. I certainly don't expect general mods such as hookups or prostitution to be absent.[/quote']

This. I'm checking these forums from time to time to see, if there is any progress. For me there is really no point of making a mod that requires sex framework, while there is no sex framework yet. This is one of reasons why I abandoned my succubus mod. The second reason is that it wasn't enough lore friendly. I admit, I like when mods really blend into the world - I can't stand working on something that feels out of place.

SSG somewhat blends into Skyrim, but I hope I'll be able to disable some of it's features, if they're added.

There is a lot of potential in Skyrim for lore friendly mods for that involve consensual sex. I found one of such... let's call it area of interest. Now I'm patiently waiting for framework and from time to time writing down something for my project.

Can you release source code of your scripts? I'm not sure, if there is any decompiler for pex files yet.

This all sounds really nice. I too wouldn't want to play a custom race for it' date=' but I like the idea of a "true form" that looks more demonic and then her charming, deceiving visage. I love the idea of a lust scale ^^ Would also be nice to see some sexy animations during draining and lots of powerful charm and luring spells. This is gonna be awesome, looking forward to updates.

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My mod will be a plugin for SResource.esm or SSG, so animations will depend on what one of these mods will have.

Been working with Med111

Got some models done tonight some of the succubus body parts

Med111 is reviewing them so Ill wait to see what he thinks before posting images

I'll take look at these models once I'm able to open your links.

To be honest, I'm a bit stuck. I'm writing list of features with explanations, but it may be overcomplicated by now. I need someone else to look at this, with fresh point of view. Also I'd appreciate any brainstorming regarding new spells and abilities.

Succubus Mod	<- need better name

 Feeding
 Lust
 Vital Essence (VE)
 Soul Essence (SE)
 True Form (TF)
 Deceiving Form (DF)	<- [need better name]


 Feeding:
  Having sex with a male, while in TF.
  Partially and full draining.
  Partially draining debuffs target for a day.	<- [time may differ; possible magnitude, stacks, etc.]
  Partially draining restores VE.
  Full draining kills victim.
  Full draining steals SE.

 Lust
  Range 0-100.
  100 forces True Form.	<- [may cause problems, need to balance properly]
  Increases over time; many factors modify Lust gain rate.
  Any sex act further INCREASES Lust, including masturbation.
  Lust is decreased during orgasms, but succubi can only have orgasms during sex with males.
  If 0<=Lust<=49, Lust is slightly decreased during orgasms in Deceiving Form, noticeably while partially draining in True Form and by a lot while full draining in True Form.
  Orgasms in Deceiving Form are NOT enough to keep Lust low, because lower VE will force higher Lust gain (see Vital Essence).
  If 50<=Lust<=99, Lust is INCREASED during orgasms in Deceiving form, noticeably decreased while partially draining in True Form and by a lot while full draining in True Form.
  If Lust==100, succubus is in True Form and always uses full draining.   <- [yep, they're evil after all]
  Lust is rising faster, while succubus is in True Form
  Possible addiction mechanic, the more succubus feeds, the faster her lust is rising.

 Vital Essence
  Reversed vampire hunger - the lower it is, the more "hungry" succubus is.
  Succubus dies, when VE reaches 0.
  Lower VE increases Lust gain significiantly; indirectly forces TF (see: Lust).
  Used to cast less powerfull spells.

 Sould Essence
  Used to unlock special perks and powers.
  Used to cast more powerfull spells.

 True Form
  Attacked on sight by most people, except some special occasions, which include awoken males during night.   <- [i'm not sure about this, many males would rather bang succubus, instead of fight]
  Possibly attecked on sight only by guards, but other people would report daedra walking around to them.
  Being seen by non-evil NPCs increases suspicion. 
  Able to cast spells, that require VE and SE

 Deceiving Form
  "Normal" form, able to cast minor spells/charms and walk around freely.
  Guards will take you to jail, if suspicion is high enough.

The list is not finished yet, but I'd like to hear your opinion.

I think I'll stick with different sort of vampirism, developed by some rare deadric creatures. I don't want to force anyone to play specific race, because I wouldn't like to be forced myself. Any race (maybe except beast races) will be able to become succubus by being transformed by a rare artifact. You will still be able to use succubus race mod developed by someone else, if you wish.

EDIT: As for spells, here's an example:

Jeaolousy (name could be better, something with "worthy" perhaps?) - This spell is avaible only for master succubi. Succubus enrages all males within area around her, making them attack anyone except her. Once one of them survives, he will beg succubus to have sex with him. Costs 40 Soul Essence.

In folklore traced back to medieval legend, a succubus (plural succubi) is a female demon appearing in dreams who takes the form of a human woman in order to seduce men, usually through sexual intercourse. The male counterpart is the incubus. Religious traditions hold that repeated intercourse with a succubus may result in the deterioration of health or even death.

In modern fictional representations, a succubus may or may not appear in dreams and is often depicted as a highly attractive seductress or enchantress; whereas, in the past, succubi were generally depicted as frightening and demonic.

Maybe this will set your thoughts and ideas back on the track.

After giving it some though, I'm not entirely sure how to handle transformations. Would you want to use specific race or rather grow horns and tail on any race you want, except beast races?

Rather than just suggesting what to do' date=' but not contributing anything to the mod, I've decided to rip off succubus file from Vindictus, and make a character for skyrim

Although this is my first time making armor for skyrim... I know what I'm doing.. o_o

but I have no idea about the head mesh... I heard that you need make tri files to make facial expression.

here's the image of succubus I'm trying to apply to

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nosebleed x_X

I have no nifscope experience but I do know how to do 3D modelling and texturing very well. (Am a game design student) I am really tempted to make a go at this.

You would help me a great deal. PM me, if you are interested in cooperation, I'll tell you how I'm going to deal with appearance of succubi.

EDIT: Looks like my inbox was overloaded, should be fine now.

By the by I'm working on a vampirism overhaul right now (and it's like 95% finished I just need to script combat and dialogue feeding and menu for buying unlocked powers) and some of what I've done could be easily remade into a succubus system. So if someone wants to make this mod I'd be happy to help with the papyrus abracadabra and whatnot. Or I could try if I get into a succubus mood someday but in that case I'd prefer to wait for more advanced SKSE functions and good visual assets (I would looooooove this mod converted to Skyrim! Or at least the animations! In fact if someone ever does that I'll start working on the succubus system immediately! ^^)

I'd love to take look at your scripts. Looking at examples made by others is the fastest way to learn for me.

I don't really know but' date=' people says that modding in skyrim is easier than oblivion....maybe you should try?._. please????

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Fingers crossed, but I'm slowly leaning towards making this mod. I managed to get my old HDD working and found old GeneralPlan.txt file, which is basically list of features I was going to add with explanations. I need to adapt it for Skyrim though, for example I need to make workaround for lack of attributes. Until then I can list what I am NOT going to do:

• Lesbian succubi - Not that I don't like lesbians, but I want to keep succubi as close to their original image as possible. They will be able to have sex with females, if you have mod allowing that, but they still will have to feed on males.
  
• Incubi - Succubi first, then we'll see. Defenitely possible. No gay sex though.
  
• Flying, wings, etc. - I didn't like it in Oblivion, I won't like it in Skyrim. Cyrodill and Skyrim aren't designed to allow flying, there are too much exploits players can do with it. Besides this is not the most interesting feature this mod can have
  
• Succubus race - Huh? Yeah, you read it correct. Every race will be able to transform, I don't want to force anyone to use specific one. It will be limited, because there is no Wrye Morph for Skyrim, but I know how to do this easy way. See Demonized mod for Oblivion for example.
  Keep in mind, that this is based on my experience with Oblivion. If Skyrim is more flexible when it comes to swapping characters/races, then I will do this the best way possible.
  
• No seducers/dark seducers - I want to take different approach. It will be semi-lore friendly, like possible, but never seen before.
  

Again, fingers crossed, I don't promise anything, don't get you hopes up. I'm going to start slowly this time and keep this slow pace.

Don't tempt me, damn it. I was halfway in making similiar mod for Oblivion, until I burned out. I'm making progress in learning Papyrus, but if you keep giving me ideas, I won'n be able to chose what to do.

In my mod succubi were closer to vampires, rather then what you described here. They could feed (have sex with a male) only in their true form, but they were also instantly attacked while they were in it. Succubi had to find sleeping victims, not because they steal their dreams, but because they didn't want any witnesses. Or at last that's what I was going to to. I finished most engine scripts, along with lust tracking, transformation and stuff like that. Then I started modding AI behaviour, got frustrated and quit working on it

...speaking of that kind of work' date=' would you be willing to give me a hand with scripting some of the sresource file?

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Man, I have scripting experience, but I'm just starting with Papyrus. Patterns are fairly similiar to other scripting languages, but it will still take some time, until I can get complex scripts rolling.

what kind of feature(s) do you want to add as a plugin or as a mod to ssg is the question though?

A variation of alternative start mod would be the first thing for me to do. Existing Live Another Life mod suits male characters pretty well, but SSG opens much more possibility to start as a female. If you want me to be more specific, ask Sapphire, she knows something about that.

Next one would be expanding minor slavery. Sometimes I play as female character, but I don't like the idea of watching my character trained or anything like that. Some action followed by escape sounds much better.

By minor slavery I mean being captured by bandits. As far as I noticed your plan is to give captors three options after initial fun - kill, release naked and bound or sell to slavery. IMO bandits should rather keep pretty girls for themselves. It's a pretty big deal, to be honest, because best way to implement this is to add specific scripts to every bandit lair.

I might drop second one for another idea though - SSG radiant AI encounters. I don't see many modders working on radiant AI, but it has a lot of potential. Possibilities are endless, for example I could add:

- Encountering few bandits having fun with captured girl. Male characters could join them, for a price or through intimidating/persuasion. Females could offer themselves instead (failed persuasion - captured girl is not released). Both genders could just attack them and kill.

- Meeting lost girl in the forest. Do you want to help or take advantage of her?

- Meeting a guy, who wants you to follow him for some important reason. He leads you into ambush, male characters get instantly attacked. Females, well...

Many encounters chance could be based on player characters allure stat.

@Zinra

As far as I remember, prostitution in SM3 decreases player characters dominance stat.

Anyway, I meant this in the whole guild reputation context. I can't imagine the Guild having high respect to a woman prostituting herself, instead of her slaves.

@DocClox

Will SSG have support for new plugins? I mean, is this going to have master file with framework and stat tracking, similiar to Lovers mod? I'm thinking about few small features to add, once I learn my way around Papyrus.

Since im using female character' date=' i want you to consider about female character mission, which will be like prostitution.[/quote']

I don't know much about this project to be honest, but that would be out of place. Slave masters are supposed to be dominant, while prostitution is rather sumbisive. On the other hand a mission for a slave... Yeah, that could work.

how a about if during combat when only ranged weapons are involved' date=' if your character were to lose a lot of health, then she would enter some kind of surrender animation(think Skyrim) after which combat would stop and all the combatants would have their way with her, after which she'd pass out and wake in some safe area with equipment missing.

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So this hasn't been done yet? It's time to see if my dust covered scripting skills are still capable

Sexout's core gameplay is still intact - if you're using Tryouts' date=' the most major thing is Legion and fiends, also Powder Gangers, demand sex of you. And each faction has adjustable approach rates, so if you don't want it you can just turn it off.[/quote']

I see you don't realize how prehistoric I am I stopped playing New Vegas before Tryout conversion to Sexout.

I guess I'll just see what you have in stock, then decide what could be improved by my extremely bugged scripts

I'm considering comming back to New Vegas after long break, and I gotta say I'm quite impressed what you did with Sexout. I might as well give something back this time and revive plugin project I left months ago. I don't know if there is still point though, because it could be done already. I haven't read this whole forum - has anyone touched combat rape mechanics, modified after-rape-AI behavior or added ability to yield?

Also I want to know how does new Sexout blend into New Vegas, both environment and gameplay? Is it interactive 3d porn, like Oblivion, or is it more subtle and fitting survival theme? I decided to play New Vegas again, then "why not install new Sexout by the way?" come through my mind, but I like NV gameplay too much to lose it to porn.

/>http://skyrim.jpn.org/files/6/694.jpg

looks way too nice to be something vanilla

Looks like Triss Merigold outfit from Witcher 2 ported to Skyrim.

I would really like to see some more immersive mods with the creatures. Having the presence of dragons can make for some interesting mods. One idea could be a breeding ground for them. If your female pc walks into they would be subject to rape to "train" younger maby smaller dragons. Eventually you may be raped by the Nesting father which would be a normal sized if not bigger dragon. It could be part of a quest series maby like lovers bitch just with dragons. I also liked the idea of female pc abduction mentioned by Madmartigan34. Female pcs have a certain chance of being abducted based on their dragonborne powers. The more shouts you unlock the more dragons would take interest in you. If abducted dragons would fly you back to the breeding ground or a lair to "share" your power. Once done with business you would be temporarily connected with the dragon allowing you to summon him once during combat.

There are no female dragons, so no breeding grounds. Dragons aren't very friendly to each other either, I don't think that any of them would want to share anything. Being dominated by one of them (as they're very dominant race) is the only a bit more lore-friendly approach I see.

This "sharing" power sounds promising too

Also I don't think, that collecting semen idea fits this thread in any way.

I just really hope that if someone does do a Mod for Dibela that they realize that its not just a "sex porno hump hump cult" and that it should be treated with some serious realism like the rest of Skyrim's theme tries to do.

I have few ideas for that, mostly inspired by NPC Healga from Riften. She's practicing "Dibellan Arts" (as she call it) by sleeping with various men and giving them Marks of Dibella. Exactly how cultist should act like.

Also Amulet of Dibella could be Skyrim equivalent of tramp stamp tattoo or shirt with text "My eyes are up here, but keep looking, I like it!" So everyone would know, that PC wearing that amulet is easy.

OK. You have sold it! Send me a object file' date=' 3ds, etc. of the complete body immediately! I will morph my mesh to that!

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It's made by Hitmanx3z and I highly doubt, that he would share his work Too bad.

Here another example of my ideal body shape.

My taste doesn't vary too much from that.
/>http://www.dragonagenexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=3100

This doesn't mean i don't like seeing lots of other body types.

By the time me and 2pac are finished' date=' the old wives tale of going blind, will hold true.

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How about this, huh?

@WitchGirl - Maybe it's just me, but your suggestions sound good for generic hentai game. Do you want to turn Skyrim into one of them? I can understand, that you want interesting in-game mechanics involving sex, but it could be done without bizzare thing, like masturbating to heal

About alchemy... I think, that I'll be working on it a bit. Hopefully it's possible to expand effect list, so I'll be able to add effects such as raise lust, charm and obviously aphrodisiac for love potions. Then I will replace some of existing effects with them - making love potion will most likely require finding rare flowers or something like that, not sperm...

Sigh, looks like I'm only complaining on these forums. The point is, I'd just prefer more immersive approach.

@Grimreaper - There is simple reasoning behind this. Only customers who paid for Skyrim will get acces to (hopefully) huge and easy to navigate mod database

I think it's a good move, as they're just encouraging people interested in modding/mods to buy Skyrim. Don't be so paranoid. I bet it'll be just "Upload" button next to "Save as", you won't have to upload everything to their database. Seriously, Bethesda isn't that stupid to piss off modding community, because we're keeping TES games alive until next one comes out and even years after that. So I HIGHLY doubt, that CK will scan our data folders.

Damn, you're so paranoid and pessimistic

http://www.loverslab.com/showthread.php?tid=3405

Also - wrong subforum.

SnowLeopardFurArmor for ThorpacALPHA

-just a quick copy&paste job in nifskope with throttlekitty's nif.xml

credits:

Thorpac - by thor925 and 2pac4eva7

Snow Leopard Forsworn Armor by Rekicker

http://www.mediafire.com/?sv7hflb262j64dz

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=FY5BBQPR

Looks like armor mesh is not adjusted and is floating around her body.