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Gaining a lover should cause it to be removed. Not sure if it's possible to set up an on-action for that though. There's also the question of Seduction-related one night stands that don't result in pregnancy, though I can't think of a way to handle that. If nothing else, you could have it be removed if a character gains the "Aspiring Seducer" modifier - that would at least cover it to some degree

Oh, yeah, didn't realize you weren't already editing the other religions   Yeah, intermarriage doesn't work unless both religions have each other's tags.

If using the group is a problem, you can just have multiple intermarry lines specifying each pagan religion individually.   IIRC the hunters are on the same decade pulse as the other decade events - but their random chance is handled in the event itself, so you have a chance to get them regardless of what decade event you get. That's just RNG at work, I've only gotten 1 in my current ~60-year game.   As for the tentacle spell, I was thinking the exact same thing. Actually more specifically, I was hoping you could pick a specific courtier and have an option for both of you to get fucked rather than just the other woman

Yeah, I was just wondering why you didn't use the "murder" reason - that would allow for the victim's family to hate (and potentially retaliate against) the hunter, which would make sense to me.   From a balance perspective though I have no idea which is the better option, so I'll defer to you :P

Out of curiosity, why'd you choose to have hunters' prey receive the "died in battle" death reason, as opposed to just showing them as killed by the hunter?

Is your base game up-to-date, and do you have WoL? And are you 100% certain you don't have any other mods active?

He is indeed supposed to be able to spawn in and take over any court AFAIK - though perhaps there should be a few restrictions on that (mostly religious heads, to avoid the Pope on the Golden Throne issue Aliris pointed out earlier

Until guru adds his ascension event, you can always just send your assassin after yourself :P

Or they can become a massive political presence - I had a game where Fenris spawned in the Byzantine court.   ...I decided that would be a good time to start over

Well, Rayne just showed up... this should be interesting, since my wife is a vampire - and so is my mother, heh. Maybe I should marry her to my heir for added family drama

Well I mean I can offer it regardless cb_types/00_cb_types, under the crusade header: Spoiler can_use_gui = { ROOT = { has_called_crusade = no religion_authority = 0.05 OR = { religion_group = zoroastrian_group religion_group = jewish_group AND = { religion_group = pagan_group custom_tooltip = { text = CTT_PAGAN_GHWS_UNLOCKED has_global_flag = pagan_ghws_unlocked } } AND = { religion_group = christian custom_tooltip = { text = CTT_CHRISTIAN_CRUSADES_UNLOCKED has_global_flag = christian_crusades_unlocked } } AND = { religion_group = muslim custom_tooltip = { text = CTT_MUSLIM_JIHADS_UNLOCKED has_global_flag = muslim_jihads_unlocked } } } mercenary = no } }   Just throw religion_group = demonic under religion_group = jewish_group. Can't think of a way to do this as a separately-named file, though - those just append, not overwrite, correct?

Yeah, I know how to do it myself Thanks though. I was just curious if you had any plans to include it (I forgot you were trying to avoid overwriting anything vanilla)  

Any possibility of making it so that the "unwed and pregnant" event gives less of a (or even no) prestige/piety hit for Lilithians?   EDIT: Also, I keep wondering, why exactly is Harley Norse religion rather than taking on the player's like she does culture?   Oh, one other thing - has_global_flag affects an entire world state, correct? So no matter how long you play the hunters will only spawn once? Kinda discourages extended plays IMO, in favor of 100-200 year sessions... would it be possible to simply have them spawn once every 60-80 years or so?   Especially since the two "arch-monsters" live forever... they can keep influencing things through an entire playthrough, where the hunters can only help for the first century or so

Oh wow, you've added a ton in the last couple days! Looking forward to trying it all out!   Wasn't there like 75% off everything recently?

Interestingly, that's the exact same problem Paradox themselves had for like a month after they added Messalian. No idea what the cause was or how they (eventually) fixed it though, unfortunately.   I'm impressed you got it to show priests - I tried to do that when I made myself a mod to add a papacy and cardinals to Cathar, but I couldn't find a damn thing that even looked like it might affect priest display

I can't decide how I feel about the fact that there's no age check on making a slave a bodyguard... on one hand, a 10-year-old bodyguard is just absurd, but on the other, it's also straight up awesome     Huh... I guess that's why BGL just has its "Lilithian" religion as a heresy. Shame that didn't work out, sorry you sank so much time into it :/

Dunno about autocephaly. A pagan-style religious head seems like it'd be more fitting

Huh, never actually read much about the Lilith figure... that's a pretty fitting idea, according to Wikipedia - she left Adam because he refused to be subservient to her.   Then she banged the angel of death, so there's that (he's also a pretty interesting figure himself... apparently he's still a servant of God despite wanting men to do evil)

Guru, what do you think of Aliris' idea?   I'm thinking something along the lines of: lilithian = { has_coa_on_barony_only = yes graphical_culture = westerngfx crusade_cb = crusade playable = yes ai_convert_same_group = 0 ai_convert_other_group = 1 # Only if zealous lilithian = { graphical_culture = westerngfx icon = 5 # generic pagan heresy_icon = 5 color = { 0.9 0.2 0.2 } god_names = { SATAN LILITH # need localization keys # should probably have variants for both } evil_god_names = { # need something here. what? } crusade_name = GREAT_HOLY_WAR scripture_name = WORD_OF_SATAN # or whatever priest_title = LILITH_ATTENDANT # "Attendant of Lilith" - can't come up with anything better offhand. Sounds fancy at least. priests_can_marry = yes can_call_crusade = yes allow_looting = yes allow_rivermovement = yes # make raiding for prisoners easier female_temple_holders = yes feminist = yes divine_blood = yes # Sacred close-kin marriage mechanics pc_marriage = yes bs_marriage = yes # seafarer = yes What does this even do? short_reign_opinion_year_mult = 3 # The default is 2 max_consorts = 3 religious_clothing_head = 3 # this is norse. change? religious_clothing_priest = 3 # as above allow_in_ruler_designer = no } } Pure suggestion, honestly. Can't say I put a ton of time into it either, hence tons of comments

Yeah, but like I said, it would make much more sense for every Abrahamic religion - Christians, Muslims and Jews of both the main religions and all heresies - to hate this demon-worshipping sex cult, not just for one parent religion to hate them a tiny bit extra but everyone else to be totally alright with them. So it should be either its own religion group, or part of the pagan group.

  Eh. I like the idea of it being its own religious group. I mean, in this context you're basically satanists, so you're going to be hated by all Christians and Muslims. Not sure if the pagans would care, though... if we can justify the other pagans being chill with demon worship we could just make it a pre-reformed pagan religion  

This is my favorite idea out of everything you suggested - not only would be be effective, it really fits the whole succubus theme, too

Why not just make the entire (adult) court eligible for the events? That'd certainly solve the variety issue

It's actually kind of a convenient bug, since otherwise you'd usually only have like 3 attendees.   Perhaps courtiers could be valid characters for those events as well?

To be more specific, her arrival event only fires once per ruler. She can die and come back within the same reign, but only if the incarnation that died had arrived during the previous reign