SexLab Surrender

[jinny1984]

Hi Everybody,

 

I was wondering if the following idea is a difficult mod to produce. I haven't modded much more than some dialogue lines in oblivion's SSL but I'm willing to try if you think this is a doable first project.

 

I really love the mods here and have been using them in Oblivion & FNV. I think it really makes the world feel more dirty & dangerous and adds to replayability and immersion.So applause for anyone who's been producing these fantastic piecesof digital art.

 

One thing with (forced) sex in Skyrim that I think breaks immersion sometimes as your character has to be strong enough to defeat a pack of wolves or a couple of bandits, yet weak enough to be 'controlled' by the rapist.

My female characters that I use with the sex mods are usually created for that purpose with a certain bit of roleplay, and are generally not warriors or mages, but it seems weird for a blacksmith's daughter, or a riften barmaid to use weapons or magic to defeat bandits or predators.

 

my idea:

 

SexLab Surrender

Similar to oblivion's 'Surrender or die' it would enable the player to surrender and offer money and/or sex in combat moments. With humanoids/bandits this could be through conversation, for animals this could be the PC getting on hands n knees n offering herself which would lead to a sex animation and then a friendly/ non-violent NPC so you can continue your journey.

Maybe possible enslavement through Sanguine's Debauchery could kick in at a % chance, as the bandit has you in a weak state. (MCM toggle maybe?)

 

This would allow you to play the game without having to be strong or violent and lead to some interesting situations.

 

Do you think this is a nice mod to start with as a beginner? Any tips or recommendations for me?

Thanks in advance!

[jinny1984]

Possible features I would like to include:

• surrender 'n offer money -> leads to friendly NPC, or rape n then friendly NPC or SD enslavement
  
• surrender 'n offer sex -> leads to friendly NPC, NPC might steal some cash while taking you.
  
• surrender 'n instant sex -> NPC's could and animals always would go straight into raping you without any conversation.
  
• bandits can steal from you -> during rape / offered sex or through conversation (blackmail/bribe) 
  
• random length of sex -> some last longer than others
  
• learn new 'tricks' - Just like loversComfort you could learn new ways of 'persuading' people.
  
• humiliation/ verbal abuse - NPC's would treat you poorly and verbally abuse you for being weak
  
• groupsex/ train - if it's a group of NPC's or a pack of wolves each member would 'take his turn' 
  

[DontBotherMe]

Have you checked animated prostitution latest 3.0.1 ?? It does already do this, maybe you can adept the code somehow to play with sexlab.

 

you will get new spells like surrender but still somewhat buggy and has brawl function. with his ap-dev.esp mod.

[Jimjim117]

@Don'tBotherMe, Correct me if I'm wrong but as far as I know animated prostitution is not for combat encounters

 

@Jinny1984, This is a great idea and something I've been hoping someone will make. I was thinking of a mod like defeated for sexis but after sex your enemy dies. That way you won't have to fight at all through skyrim just fuck them to death as a dragonborn.

 

But your idea of making them friendly is a good idea. Maybe also for bandits if you surrender and they let you live if you don't come back for sex within a certain amount of days then they become enemies again.

[DontBotherMe]

The normal version isn't but JoshNZ included a zip called AP-dev.esp witch makes new stuff possible witch would have otherwise violated nexus rules. you can activate the extra's with console command  set OneSickPuppy to 1

[kermit24]

Your idea sounds awesome, i would like to see a mod like this

[GECK.O]

One of must have mod SexLab should have.

 

I have an idea to improve the surrender or yield mechanism. Unlike in Oblivion where you must aim the enemy and press the yield button, it's better to just press the yield button without aiming to the enemy, then the player and followers will knee on the ground. All of them will be gang raped.

[jinny1984]

Thanks for the tips, i will have a look at AP dev and I really like the idea of being able to yield to a group. the time limit or terms to keep NPCsfriendly sounds great as well!

Regarding the difficulty of making a mod like this. Do you think I as a beginner would be able to pull this off?

Tonight im gonna go through the SL developers text n hopefully i can get started on this tomorrow.

Anymore tips/ ideas are very much appreciated!

[Ashal]

I wouldn't consider anything dealing with AI or trying to accurately deal with actors in a scenario such as combat to be beginner friendly, even if it's at a basic level. If you haven't scripted before I'd suggest starting smaller.

 

But that would also make me a hypocrite, I didn't know a lick of papyrus scripting barely a month ago when I started making SexLab, and that was no beginner task either. So really I'd say it depends on where you feel your overall programming abilities lie outside of Skyrim.

[mr.bananas]

Doesn't sex addict do something like that?

They beat down your avatar to like... 20/30/70 % life, rape it and then let you move on (calm effect).

If you add in sanguines debauchery, they sometimes even enslave your character (when set weaken status at 20% or less) after they're done raping.

 

You could ask waxenfigure and jbezorg to work with you and make all sexmods to join to one.

[AlerictheNord]

What is this "OneSickPuppy" thing for AP?

[sammythesquirrel]

while you may well be able to pull off what you want with human enemies, you mentioned wolves, which to my knowledge is impossible because the animations don't exist (they are being worked on but are not ready for use in-game)

[Phelps1247]

Doing like FONV and adding a "press ] to get raped" mod to something shouldn't be difficult. Not quite what you want but probably much easier to make.

[TheOtherGuy]

I don't see anything specifically wrong with getting raped if someone beats me down and I can't stop them....well no virtual problem with it at least. Lets keep the dark fantasies inside the computer...yes, anyways overall theres a nice dichotomy to being both powerful...yet powerless at the same time that is kind of a turn on because its like...yes I'm strong but this man is stronger than I am and I can't stop him....I'm not sure if I hate it or like it. Its a little mix of both.

 

You remind me of this guy... my reply is 2:11 - 2:24

 

 

As per the OP, I would love a mod that does this. However, Skyrim 'yield' is sheathing your weapon unlike a hotkey in Oblivion.

[Ferrox]

Such a mod would be fine, although I'd also want the reverse to be possible. If a bandit/necromancer/humanoid NPC surrenders in a fight, that they can actually be aproached and talked to rather than them still keeping on fighting. So after they surrender, you can either keep attacking or open a conversation bar. Except the options are "Go." after which they run away. "Leave your gear." which calculates the difference in levels and/or intimidation, which can result in them picking up arms again or undressing and running away in their undies, leaving behind a pile of their armor, weapons and gold. And "Submit.", which again calculates their level versus your level and intimidation. If this check fails, they attack again. If not, they submit so that you can rape them. And possibly steal their gear anyway.

 

I'd love for my character to go out raping and pilaging bandit camps. Though I suppose you can also attack villages and orc strongholds. It could probably be done with existing lines. Most voices have a line of "I submit", "No more, I yield." or something along those lines. After that it's simply opening the dialogue. If they refuse, a battle cry, if they go along then it's just a silent exchange.

[soldier321]

It's coming.

[Phelps1247]

How is the version with AP supposed to work? It resulted in being unkillable but there was no sex related options and the magic meter constantly drained.

[jinny1984]

Thanks for all the comments and ideas, I have looked at some of the documentation and I feel this might be a little over my head as I seem to be lacking the required programming skills.

So I am going to try a simple mod for personal use first and see if I can get myself anywhere near proficient enough to do a published mod.

 

In the meantime if anyone wants to run with the idea please feel free!

[NicoleDragoness]

I have AP 3.0.1 installed. Even if this mod is actually put off from downloads and in waiting for update, I can confirm that it includes a new spell called "Surrender" and that it works in combat situations making you have sex with the enemy and then making him/her friendly. This is NOT in the "dev" option but already in the main mod (actually).

 

This, however, works only for ONE enemy at once. I f there are others around, they still attack you (and kill you if you are in sex action, of course)

[WaxenFigure]

Such a mod would be fine, although I'd also want the reverse to be possible. If a bandit/necromancer/humanoid NPC surrenders in a fight, that they can actually be aproached and talked to rather than them still keeping on fighting. So after they surrender, you can either keep attacking or open a conversation bar. Except the options are "Go." after which they run away. "Leave your gear." which calculates the difference in levels and/or intimidation, which can result in them picking up arms again or undressing and running away in their undies, leaving behind a pile of their armor, weapons and gold. And "Submit.", which again calculates their level versus your level and intimidation. If this check fails, they attack again. If not, they submit so that you can rape them. And possibly steal their gear anyway.

 

I'd love for my character to go out raping and pilaging bandit camps. Though I suppose you can also attack villages and orc strongholds. It could probably be done with existing lines. Most voices have a line of "I submit", "No more, I yield." or something along those lines. After that it's simply opening the dialogue. If they refuse, a battle cry, if they go along then it's just a silent exchange.

Sex Addict right now offers a "Rape Spell". Also your followers can be set to rape any bandit or forsworn once they've beaten them down. Likewise you and they can be raped if you or they let their health go below the "rapable" percentage (settable).

What I'd like to do is change it up so that each NPC and/or the player is bound once their health drops to the percentage (call it "overpowerable") and only once all the combat is over and you have a winning side and a losing side does the rape of the losing side by the winning side begin (all bound winners get freed to have their way with all the bound losers).

[WaxenFigure]

Thanks for all the comments and ideas, I have looked at some of the documentation and I feel this might be a little over my head as I seem to be lacking the required programming skills.

So I am going to try a simple mod for personal use first and see if I can get myself anywhere near proficient enough to do a published mod.

 

In the meantime if anyone wants to run with the idea please feel free!

Look at what I have in the Sex Addict mod, play with it. Try changing it up to do something different or new and of course feel free to ask questions about the mod and it's scripts. One person has already taken the Random Sex code and converted it to SexLab and added new configuration options and stuff.

I want to see more variety in the mods available and that means more people doing mods.

[Asylianna]

I would definitely like to see something like this.

[jalingon3011]

We already have Sexis Defeated plugin made, so I guess this shouldn't be too hard.

 

My imagination would be a combination of Sexis Defeated and Sexis Working Girl, it works like this:

 

1. Player sets HP threshold for defeat

2. In combat, when player or NPC get beaten below HP threshold, he / she will go into the "defeated position (kneeing down like in Sexis Defeated)" and the battle pauses.

3. The victor will approach the defeated, and a dialogue initiates.

4. The player will choose what to do in the dialogue.

5. Based on the dialogue chosen, the appropriate animation will start (or no animation if player chooses to fight till death).

[threeddd33]

We already have Sexis Defeated plugin made, so I guess this shouldn't be too hard.

 

My imagination would be a combination of Sexis Defeated and Sexis Working Girl, it works like this:

 

1. Player sets HP threshold for defeat

2. In combat, when player or NPC get beaten below HP threshold, he / she will go into the "defeated position (kneeing down like in Sexis Defeated)" and the battle pauses.

3. The victor will approach the defeated, and a dialogue initiates.

4. The player will choose what to do in the dialogue.

5. Based on the dialogue chosen, the appropriate animation will start (or no animation if player chooses to fight till death).

 

Would work good with some of the bandit mods like OBIS and Bandit Raids and Patrols too.

[jinny1984]

 really love this idea; i can already picture laying there tied up watching ur follower struggle before both are tied and used. sounds like a great idea!

 

Such ....t exchange.

What I'd like to do is change it up so that each NPC and/or the player is bound once their health drops to the percentage (call it "overpowerable") and only once all the combat is over and you have a winning side and a losing side does the rape of the losing side by the winning side begin (all bound winners get freed to have their way with all the bound losers).