A fresh start with Oblivion

[Bill101]

Hey guys, A few months ago I set up Oblivion with many of your fine mods, at the time I was rather too shy to ask anyone anything about modding the game so I worked it all out myself or from other peoples threads.

 

Recently my game began crashing on start up and I decided that it's time to start from scratch but this time I thought I should ask the community if they know any good mods I should put in!

 

I'm looking firstly for a sex mod with pregnancy, perhaps one that changes the clothes to show it automatics this time (It was always a bit odd before when a woman would get naked and suddenly she's heavily pregnant!)

 

I'm also looking for a mod that works well with the first and makes the people of Oblivion far more attractive!

 

Last but not lest I'm looking for a companion control mod that works well with lovers and my children (so they don't follow me everywhere!)

 

It goes without saying that I'm also going to pick up allot of the Colour wheel mods to

Other than that if anyone knows of a mod that might improve the experience of the game please do tell!

 

(Though I'm only into human adults having normal sex with other human adults, so nothing beyond that for me please ^^')

 

Thank you for taking the time to read this, I am also checking though the lists myself again to see if there is anything really good!

 

 

PS: This is my first time posting here, I'm a bit nervous, so if I come off badly I'm sorry I certainly don't mean to ^^'

[gregathit]

For sex nothing beats Lovers with PK and it has a pregnancy plugin called Tamago Club.  Direct links can be found here: http://www.loverslab.com/topic/6799-lovers-plugin-index-with-direct-links/

 

NOTE: MBP is required for Tamago club.

 

 

For vanilla NPC's I recommend installing XeoSP++.  This version of Xeo is compatible with MBP and will greatly improve the looks of the vanilla NPC's.

 

The best companion control plugin for lovers with pk is MCS: http://www.loverslab.com/topic/1569-mad-companionship-spells-mcs-extension-humantouchnpc/

[Bill101]

For sex nothing beats Lovers with PK and it has a pregnancy plugin called Tamago Club.  Direct links can be found here: http://www.loverslab.com/topic/6799-lovers-plugin-index-with-direct-links/

 

NOTE: MBP is required for Tamago club.

 

 

For vanilla NPC's I recommend installing XeoSP++.  This version of Xeo is compatible with MBP and will greatly improve the looks of the vanilla NPC's.

 

The best companion control plugin for lovers with pk is MCS: http://www.loverslab.com/topic/1569-mad-companionship-spells-mcs-extension-humantouchnpc/

 

Thanks alot! Thats great, do you know any good companion control mods?

[gregathit]

The last link I gave you for MCS (mad companionship control) is a companion control mod.

 

If you mean a plugin that adds companions for you to grab then try this one: http://www.loverslab.com/topic/1565-from2ch-lives/

[Bill101]

The last link I gave you for MCS (mad companionship control) is a companion control mod.

 

If you mean a plugin that adds companions for you to grab then try this one: http://www.loverslab.com/topic/1565-from2ch-lives/

 

 

Sir, you are a gentleman and a scholar, it's great to have a list of mods to work with, when it did it myself some of them clashed like chickens in a London cockfight!

[rynak777]

Sorry to be a downer, but someone got to play the role of the pessimist/desillusionist;

 

I'm looking firstly for a sex mod with pregnancy, perhaps one that changes the clothes to show it automatics this time (It was always a bit odd before when a woman would get naked and suddenly she's heavily pregnant!)

That would be:

- loversPK

- tamagoClub and co (Main pregnancy plugin core. It has HEAVY dependencies. There are variants around working without those deps (MBP and co), but those in turn come with their own set of problems (they're not up to date)). And even if you opt to use the standard variant with the expected deps, the deps in turn are buggy (mbp++ itself, yes. And the official installation thread here on LPK, acknowledges them, with the only suggested workaround being "ignore them").

- setbody reloaded

- tamago setbody revised + maternity clothes and its ressourcepack

- HGEC bodymods, controlled skelleton, and the like

 

Unfortunatelly, the above combination... which really pretty much is the "base" of LPK right now, is far from unproblematic. It will explode in your face, if you do the slightest thing wrong with your loadorder, install the slightest thing in the wrong order, have any other plugin that interferes for no reason, and do not install the ideal cocktail of versions (which often are NOT the newest ones or the ones with still working links. Sometimes, you even have to mix and match files from different versions, to get it to work right. In short: you're in for a world of hurt. Lovers PK, and tamago, sucks in terms of "deployment", big time!).

 

That's not to say that it cant work. It certainly can do, and if you spend some time in trial and error, and hunting for dead links, you'll get it to work. But it's not a "just go down the checklist"-experience.

 

 

 

I'm also looking for a mod that works well with the first and makes the people of Oblivion far more attractive!

I am not aware of any such plugin or plugin-cocktail, that isn't a similiar can of worms, as LPK+popularPlugins itself. This has to do with how the oblivion modding system works. In some areas, it distinguishes very finegrained, about what a mod changes. In other cases, it is very imprecise about what a plugin changes.

 

Example: Let's take a plugin, that edits every vanilla NPC, to look more attractive, typically requiring some ressource packs (hairs, races, etc). Now, you as the user expect, that those plugins only change the appearance of NPCs, and nothing else. Actually, the only thing the modders of those plugins did, WAS just changing the appearace!

 

BUT: once they saved those plugins, and gave them to others, things suddely worked quite different to what they intended to do. In short: In oblivion, NPCs pretty much are like atoms (ignoring script-assignment). That means: If a plugin changes an NPC, its settings override EVERYTHING ABOUT THE NPC!!! So, in short, ignoring some exceptions (like scripts), oblivion does not support two plugins changing different aspects of the same NPC (things like wryebash can fix this, but that in turn requires a new dimension of user-understanding), and more organization micromanagement.

 

There is a way around this: A mod could opt, to not edit any of the NPCs, but only change the "ressources" which vanilla NPCs use. Like, replacing texture-files, mesh-files, and so on. Unfortunatelly, i'm not away of many such plugins. Most just up the resolution, and that's it. If anyone knows an alternative, please correct me.

 

 

Last but not lest I'm looking for a companion control mod that works well with lovers and my children (so they don't follow me everywhere!)

There is none, that supports BOTH of those requirements, unless the number of companions AND children stays below a certain number (96 i think, for MCS). And, you would have to do it manually for every goddamn child. At this point, it would be less effort, to learn basics about CS and scripting, then modify hiryoku club itself, by changing the AI package which children get, from "followBlah" to "wanderAroundBlah".

 

Now, this might make you ask the question: "If it's this simple for anyone knowing CS, to change this - why did no one do? I'm not exactly sure, but one aspect might be: Whenever a new plugin version comes out, you will have to redo your changes. And no, i'm not aware of any "diff/merge" utils, for oblivion scripts. Ouch.

 

 

 

It goes without saying that I'm also going to pick up allot of the Colour wheel mods to

Other than that if anyone knows of a mod that might improve the experience of the game please do tell!

 

(Though I'm only into human adults having normal sex with other human adults, so nothing beyond that for me please ^^')

That's a quite generic question - i'd need more info about what you might like. There are plugins to add consensual sex, plugins to forced sex option (down to actual enslavement), there are plugins to let you "resist" rape, there are plugins to tweak the rules, then there are aesthetical plugins that mess around with i.e. cum display. Etc. Etc. Etc.

 

[rynak777]

P.S.: Here are the crashers and problem-creators, i've identified during the course of cleaning my setup:

 

1. CM partners: Crashes on loadscreens. Doubleface bug on fasttravel. Possible scripts-desync, if you run it alongside newer COBL versions, because it overwrites COBL files.

2. Companion Share & Recruit: Double-face bug, AI buggery (incl you not being able to fuck certain NPCs anymore, in ANY plugin), even after cleansave. To fix this, you have to load with CSR enabled, dismiss all of them. THEN cleansave.

3. Dynamic drink and eat: regularily crashes if NPCs drink/eat... no crash for PC-anims (fixed this for me, by editing the scripts, to ignore NPC drink/eat). How this went through "testing", is anyone's guess.

4. Archery skillup multiplier mod. Regularily crashes on any arrow hit. How this went through testing.... oh, i'm repeating myself.

5. Certain versions of tamagoClub will introduce regular crashes, and they'll persist, until you "reset data".

6. A companion healthbar mod i found on nexus (forgot the name). Will make the size of your savegames explode, to the point where saves will take an entire minute or more. How this went through testing.... oh, deja vu. (the companion hud statusbar mod that comes with MCS, seems to be fine so far)

7. loversPK extender: Will on sex turn NPCs invisible except of their eyes and mouths (different from "doubleface"-bug, but can be fixed with any of the available "fix doubleface" commands which mods provide)

8. LoversSetScale and LoverSetScale revised. I haven't found any version, that wouldn't mess with NPC appearance/clothing during sex (invisible-body bug, or "onlyDryHumpingAllowed"-bug (no more undress on sex))

9. "Some unidentified" posted file, here on loversPK, that changes horsedicks. Will make their dicks apparently a few miles wide, meaning, there will be weird spikes across the horizon, whenever a horse is nearby. Maybe the meshes were just bugged. Maybe the author failed to mention requirements. Honestly, i don't care: It messed up, if installed according to the instructions and mentioned deps.

[Bill101]

I'm a little confused, in the past I needed Modular Beautiful People and x117 Race for pregnancy and childbirth however they don't seem to be listed  http://www.loverslab.com/topic/6799-lovers-plugin-index-with-direct-links/ (I also can't find x117 Race)

Do I still need them? And if so where could I get a download for x117 Race (most of the ones I have found are dead)

[gregathit]

I'm a little confused, in the past I needed Modular Beautiful People and x117 Race for pregnancy and childbirth however they don't seem to be listed  http://www.loverslab.com/topic/6799-lovers-plugin-index-with-direct-links/ (I also can't find x117 Race)

Do I still need them? And if so where could I get a download for x117 Race (most of the ones I have found are dead)

 

The link is for lovers plugins only and not their requirements.

 

You can get x117 from the nexus, just type x117 in their search engine. 

 

You can also get x117 included in a bundle with MBP and MBP++: http://www.loverslab.com/topic/833-install-beautiful-people-a-guide-to-setting-up-beautiful-people-modular-bp/

 

The only link that may not be working is the torrent.

[Bill101]

Hey guys, I got everything working in tip top shape! Thank you very much for the help! All I'm looking for now is a mod that allows for romancing interaction with npcs rather than just soliciting sex! Also I seem to have two instances of "I want to ask you something" In my dialog options, not quite sure how I managed that.

 

Again guys any input is greatly appreciated, and thank you to Gregathit and Rymal77 you guys are great. 

[Poontank]

Congratulations on successfully assembling a mod set-up you are comfortable with!

 

A good mod offering a lot of possibilities for relationships with NPCs is 'Lovers Voice SSP Plus'. Though its main funtion is to add dialogue to sexual encounters, you also get additional dialogue options to interact with characters, which will allow for dating them and building up different types of relationships over time.

[Bill101]

Cool, I give it a go! Thanks alot! =)

 

There is this one other thing though that I'm getting that I should ask about.

 

The game keeps sending me this message "runmodelt may result in miscarriage or illness" (Somthing like that)

 

I'm currently testing the character's ability to have children and it seems to come up constantly blocking all other ingame announcements, does anyone know how to turn it off?

 

PS: Just checked lovers voice and she'll do the trick! Though I'll keep looking for ways to enhance romance in game.

[rynak777]

I'm not aware of plugins which play cleanly with LPK, and which allow romance that is not heavily linear. If you like this, your best bet is to:

 

- install plugins that allow you and your companions "express" how you/they feel

- then, make your own story, by just roleplaying, and using said plugins when it matches the situation

 

Which plugins are there to faciliaty such "user roleplaying"? That depends heavily on what you want to roleplay in terms of romance. On first sight, those would be:

- lovers adult play plus (had issues with some of them. Also, the voice one overwrites a lot of scripts of SSP.... just by trial and error figure out which one works for you). If you are dissatisfied with the default deposition settings... with some basic understaind about cs and logical operators (AND/OR/XOR), you can change the conditions for the dialog responses in CS. Problem is that for this specific plugin, there are a LOT of unneccessarily redundant dialog nodes, so if you want to go this route, prepare for replacing a lot of dialog nodes.

 

- NakayoshiMODs - this is a set of spells to trigger poses. Mainly, hug, carry, and horsecarry. The later two have been highly buggy over here, but the plain hug animation worked well, after i cleaned out other mods conflicting with it. Still no kiss animation mod, but hey, at least yyou now can express something as generic and simple as "i like you, a lot".

 

Beyond those two, it depends on what you want to roleplay:

- want your chars to do a lot of outdoor living? Get a mod like simcamp.

- annoyed that your companion refuses to sleep next to you in inns or houses? There are mods for this.

- want your companions in follow mode, to go to sleep when you do? I'm not sure which one, but either MCSex or humantouch have this option

- want to see you sleep (and if combined with the above option, see your companions go to sleep as well?), get "see you sleep"-mod (warning: incompatible with bedroll/bed mods, that use the normal activate function to sleep... like, unfortunatelly, simcamp)

- want you and your companions to have a cool house/home? get a matching house mod, that is companion friendly. I think somewhere on the net, there also was a list of house mods, that have plenty of companion beds.

- want to start a journal/captainslog about the adventures of you and your companions? There are journal mods out there.

- etc, etc, etc.... as i said, it really depends on what kinds of things you want to roleplay, and how

 

 

[Bill101]

Cool, thanks for the suggestions! As for what I want I tend to jump around a bit, its why I like to try and make an interaction heavy world so I can get a lot out of it, like yesterday I was testing the interactions I so I had a little tumble with someone's wife in the Imperial City, she loved it

 

I think my next step will be to get some cool companions in, like Vilja as well as some new taverns and perhaps a user made quest like claudia's little secret (though I have failed to get it working in the past)

 

One thing I'v noticed i'm missing though is the morning call girls,  I had them in my last game but I can't remember which mod they came from... Call me sentimental but Oblivion just isn't the same without them little pink hair harlots running around!

 

(Also during the sex scenes there is this squeaky female voice that starts moaning over the the normal audio, i'm not sure which mod is causing it)

(Solved, I think its the default voice, when I change actor voice it seems to stop.)