Private Needs

[richard19840706]

I'm using Private Needs 2.1.1 it works well. But somehow in my game, the poop option no longer work. My PC can take a bath and piss but the bowel is always empty. So I no longer can't have poop.

 

I tried to disable the poop option and re-enable it but it still doesn't work. Do you have any idea how to solve this problem?

And one more thing, how do I upgrade to version 3 Alpha? Do I need to remove the mod, clear any script with script removing tool, and reinstall ver. 3?

 

Do I need to do that or wait till it's better? Please add the Installation tutorial at front page, especially regarding to upgrading to ver. 3 Alpha. 

Currently 3.0Alpha is, as I'm named it, an alpha, so I'm constantly tweaking and the existing stuff and adding in new stuff, so I cannot guarantee stability. However, the alpha should mess up your game or anything in theory. And yes you do need to complete uninstall 2.11 and do a clean save or preferably a new game. For the bowels in 2.11 you need to manually adjust the rate in which your bowels fill in the MCM menu. I've left the default as 0 for a reason that I can't quite remember now.

 

 

Tried to install 3A.. 

The game fails to start to the main menu

 

PS. can you please clarify what files need to be loaded under what conditions? ex I have both devious Devices and sexlab. what files do I need?

You should only need zaz animation pack hosted here on LL, SkyUI, SKSE. and Strotis Outdoor Toilet Resource, which is on nexus. If you've installed the previous version 2.11, you need to completely uninstalled that version and all addons.

[azmodan22]

 

I'm using Private Needs 2.1.1 it works well. But somehow in my game, the poop option no longer work. My PC can take a bath and piss but the bowel is always empty. So I no longer can't have poop.

 

I tried to disable the poop option and re-enable it but it still doesn't work. Do you have any idea how to solve this problem?

And one more thing, how do I upgrade to version 3 Alpha? Do I need to remove the mod, clear any script with script removing tool, and reinstall ver. 3?

 

Do I need to do that or wait till it's better? Please add the Installation tutorial at front page, especially regarding to upgrading to ver. 3 Alpha. 

Currently 3.0Alpha is, as I'm named it, an alpha, so I'm constantly tweaking and the existing stuff and adding in new stuff, so I cannot guarantee stability. However, the alpha should mess up your game or anything in theory. And yes you do need to complete uninstall 2.11 and do a clean save or preferably a new game. For the bowels in 2.11 you need to manually adjust the rate in which your bowels fill in the MCM menu. I've left the default as 0 for a reason that I can't quite remember now.

 

 

Tried to install 3A.. 

The game fails to start to the main menu

 

PS. can you please clarify what files need to be loaded under what conditions? ex I have both devious Devices and sexlab. what files do I need?

You should only need zaz animation pack hosted here on LL, SkyUI, SKSE. and Strotis Outdoor Toilet Resource, which is on nexus. If you've installed the previous version 2.11, you need to completely uninstalled that version and all addons.

 

 

I do have all the other requirements. did have version 2.11 but I have uninstalled it a while back 'cus somehow it messed the moving speed of the player. It got stuck at 80%.. 

anyway did run in another problem as well, I tried to install another mod, completely unrelated to private needs (Animal Sex for sexlab) and got exactly the same problem. (game crashes when the main menu is about to open).. So I think there is something else the messes up the whole thing.

[Pinute]

 

 

I'm using Private Needs 2.1.1 it works well. But somehow in my game, the poop option no longer work. My PC can take a bath and piss but the bowel is always empty. So I no longer can't have poop.

 

I tried to disable the poop option and re-enable it but it still doesn't work. Do you have any idea how to solve this problem?

And one more thing, how do I upgrade to version 3 Alpha? Do I need to remove the mod, clear any script with script removing tool, and reinstall ver. 3?

 

Do I need to do that or wait till it's better? Please add the Installation tutorial at front page, especially regarding to upgrading to ver. 3 Alpha. 

Currently 3.0Alpha is, as I'm named it, an alpha, so I'm constantly tweaking and the existing stuff and adding in new stuff, so I cannot guarantee stability. However, the alpha should mess up your game or anything in theory. And yes you do need to complete uninstall 2.11 and do a clean save or preferably a new game. For the bowels in 2.11 you need to manually adjust the rate in which your bowels fill in the MCM menu. I've left the default as 0 for a reason that I can't quite remember now.

 

 

Tried to install 3A.. 

The game fails to start to the main menu

 

PS. can you please clarify what files need to be loaded under what conditions? ex I have both devious Devices and sexlab. what files do I need?

You should only need zaz animation pack hosted here on LL, SkyUI, SKSE. and Strotis Outdoor Toilet Resource, which is on nexus. If you've installed the previous version 2.11, you need to completely uninstalled that version and all addons.

 

 

I do have all the other requirements. did have version 2.11 but I have uninstalled it a while back 'cus somehow it messed the moving speed of the player. It got stuck at 80%.. 

anyway did run in another problem as well, I tried to install another mod, completely unrelated to private needs (Animal Sex for sexlab) and got exactly the same problem. (game crashes when the main menu is about to open).. So I think there is something else the messes up the whole thing.

 

 

load your game into tes5edit (just hit OK when the dialog box with your mod list pops up). It will fail, and the message tab in the main window will tell you whats missing.

[Dreadpap]

 

 

I'm using Private Needs 2.1.1 it works well. But somehow in my game, the poop option no longer work. My PC can take a bath and piss but the bowel is always empty. So I no longer can't have poop.

 

I tried to disable the poop option and re-enable it but it still doesn't work. Do you have any idea how to solve this problem?

And one more thing, how do I upgrade to version 3 Alpha? Do I need to remove the mod, clear any script with script removing tool, and reinstall ver. 3?

 

Do I need to do that or wait till it's better? Please add the Installation tutorial at front page, especially regarding to upgrading to ver. 3 Alpha. 

Currently 3.0Alpha is, as I'm named it, an alpha, so I'm constantly tweaking and the existing stuff and adding in new stuff, so I cannot guarantee stability. However, the alpha should mess up your game or anything in theory. And yes you do need to complete uninstall 2.11 and do a clean save or preferably a new game. For the bowels in 2.11 you need to manually adjust the rate in which your bowels fill in the MCM menu. I've left the default as 0 for a reason that I can't quite remember now.

 

 

Tried to install 3A.. 

The game fails to start to the main menu

 

PS. can you please clarify what files need to be loaded under what conditions? ex I have both devious Devices and sexlab. what files do I need?

You should only need zaz animation pack hosted here on LL, SkyUI, SKSE. and Strotis Outdoor Toilet Resource, which is on nexus. If you've installed the previous version 2.11, you need to completely uninstalled that version and all addons.

 

 

I do have all the other requirements. did have version 2.11 but I have uninstalled it a while back 'cus somehow it messed the moving speed of the player. It got stuck at 80%.. 

anyway did run in another problem as well, I tried to install another mod, completely unrelated to private needs (Animal Sex for sexlab) and got exactly the same problem. (game crashes when the main menu is about to open).. So I think there is something else the messes up the whole thing.

 

If you crash at main menu that is a dependency issue, not the mod. You installed something that has a missing requirement that the installed mod relies on.

10 out of 10 times if i crashed on the menu It was because I installed something that needed an other mod, or I uninstalled a mad that was the requirement of an other.

[azmodan22]

I know this is a dependancy issue. What is puzzling me is that now it works. !

IfI install this mod, or SexLab animal sex. it crashes. something must be messed up or installedwrong, I'll try to check with tes5 edit

 

[azmodan22]

ok I have loaded the files

Private needs 3Alpha

Private needs 3AlphaDeviousDevices

private needs - Sexlab, 

 

and tes5 comes up with this error:

 

[00:21] Background Loader: [PrivateNeeds.esp] Loading file

[00:21] Background Loader: Fatal: <EOSError: System Error.  Code: 2.

The system cannot find the file specified>

 

Ok solved it.

 

Private needs - Sexlab is looking for PrivateNeeds.esp but 03Alpha is called PrivateNeedsNew.esp

So is the file for sexlab not needed anymore with v3 or do you need to rename the file?

[wex969]

I have all the required files but whenever i try to play my game crashes whats up with that?

 

[azmodan22]

I have all the required files but whenever i try to play my game crashes whats up with that?

 

Its exactly because you have ALL the required files. read the post above yours

[Pinute]

I'd guess that the sexlab plugin still needs updating and Richard isn't going to do that until he has gotten out of alpha. The one I miss is tbucket.

[Uhuru N'Uru]

Currently 3.0Alpha is, as I'm named it, an alpha, so I'm constantly tweaking and the existing stuff and adding in new stuff, so I cannot guarantee stability. However, the alpha should mess up your game or anything in theory. And yes you do need to complete uninstall 2.11 and do a clean save or preferably a new game. For the bowels in 2.11 you need to manually adjust the rate in which your bowels fill in the MCM menu. I've left the default as 0 for a reason that I can't quite remember now.

A request please update the file version when you do the adding in new stuff part, I'm not saying you don't do it already but editing the description page triggers the sites Last Updated mechanism as some authors do update files without version change, a user can never be sure if both file and description or just description has been updated. Even changing a single letter (Typo) causes this, I know it's really a site issue but knowing an author is following standard versioning methods helps.

and also

… so I cannot guarantee stability. However, the alpha should mess up your game or anything in theory. …

Always good to tell people their totally fucked up. Your open admittance that your real  aim is destoying our PC's is admirable.

or amazing how the word not can change the meaning of things.

No real problem We can guess the intended wording

 

I'd guess that the sexlab plugin still needs updating and Richard isn't going to do that until he has gotten out of alpha. The one I miss is tbucket.

 

That's not Richard's Mod so down to that Author to Update or if it's abandoned someone who really misses it to take over, though mod Makers are respected and in general they call the shots, sometimes RL catches up and they never return to the mod, don't respond to messages, just don't give a shit anymore. Stupid Nexus Lets good Mods die in these situations, not even allowing a compatibility patch to be created to keep mod up to date.

• Though some very well known modders are allowed to do this, Sharlikran's Jaysus Swords Patch remains up though he states it's without permission yet others get hidden, Not his fault of course, but one of the many double standards Nexus Has.
  • Dual Sheaf Redux Patch for Sharlrikran's version is even hidden because Jaysus Permission not given for ultimate double standards
• I'm Lifetime Premium Nexus Member, not a hater at all, doesn't mean I think it can do know wrong though,  it has many faults, I say so there as well as here, I believe the Lifetime Premium status gives me more freedom to do so, I would keep silent if ordinary member.

Back to here, try to get permission first but if all known means fail you can take the mod and fix it, make patch or use it as source of a remake.

You still credit the source, here theres no stiff rod of inflexibility stopping you, we have used all the stiff rods of inflexibility for much better things.

[tuxtuxtux]

Just a small request,  but it would be lovely if you could add installation instructions to the initial post.

Currently there is the stable 2.x, and then you have the new 3.x alpha.  But it's unclear unclear whether RND and DD are part of 3.x or 2.x or both, and whether  they are optional or required.

 

Just a short blurp could save anyone wanting to try this mod a lot of time having to search trough this now 80 page topic, or even just brute force what works.

 

Regardless of above, thanks for your work in making this mod. I've recently jumped on the ~immersion~ bandwagon, and it just adds a lot to the game. Default skyrim is mostly about the world itself, and it's really refreshing to install lots of mods to make the game more about the player or at least the character.

 

 

[richard19840706]

 

I'm using Private Needs 2.1.1 it works well. But somehow in my game, the poop option no longer work. My PC can take a bath and piss but the bowel is always empty. So I no longer can't have poop.

 

I tried to disable the poop option and re-enable it but it still doesn't work. Do you have any idea how to solve this problem?

And one more thing, how do I upgrade to version 3 Alpha? Do I need to remove the mod, clear any script with script removing tool, and reinstall ver. 3?

 

Do I need to do that or wait till it's better? Please add the Installation tutorial at front page, especially regarding to upgrading to ver. 3 Alpha. 

Currently 3.0Alpha is, as I'm named it, an alpha, so I'm constantly tweaking and the existing stuff and adding in new stuff, so I cannot guarantee stability. However, the alpha should mess up your game or anything in theory. And yes you do need to complete uninstall 2.11 and do a clean save or preferably a new game. For the bowels in 2.11 you need to manually adjust the rate in which your bowels fill in the MCM menu. I've left the default as 0 for a reason that I can't quite remember now.

 

 

 

LOL. I meant shouldn't mess up your game.

 

[AwfulArchdemon]

 

Whoops!

[Kalthen]

Hi, I just tested the Alpha a bit and for my part it is still not playable. Switching back to 2.11 (it works like a charme). Looking forward to the new features. I don't really know what the weight thing is. Could be interesting. 

 

For me the outhouses don't work. And the T-Bucket is a must and I am too lazy to edit. Haven't checked the load order but I usually sort with Loot and everything works fine. Also my game gets a bit laggy. That could also be RND it does that for me on a heavy game. RND also doesn't seam to integrate. I thought you didn't need the patch (read it somewhere).

 

Keep up the work! One of my fav. immersion mods. Love to have some integration with SD. 

 

 

[Kalthen]

I forgot, the notification button also is not working. But I like the new messages. hehe very funny.

[bruce142]

For the next alpha/beta version of Private Needs 3.0, could you please add the sliders back, so we could modify bladder size/bladder points, bowel size/bowel points, dirt stages? Also by using console commands, I have managed to get my character dirty and the visuals do work but the player couldn't get dirty herself/himself over time as the HygienePoints didn't grow fast enough (did try to play with the hygiene points slider but with no noticeable result).

[richard19840706]

For the next alpha/beta version of Private Needs 3.0, could you please add the sliders back, so we could modify bladder size/bladder points, bowel size/bowel points, dirt stages? Also by using console commands, I have managed to get my character dirty and the visuals do work but the player couldn't get dirty herself/himself over time as the HygienePoints didn't grow fast enough (did try to play with the hygiene points slider but with no noticeable result).

Yes, Sliders will be back in the next alpha version and as I've mentioned in previous posts, hygiene is already fixed and awaiting release for the next version.

 

On a side note, I plan to do something about vampirism and my current thoughts are, if the player is a vampire, then there will be no bowel movement since blood, well is just a liquid assuming the player isn't eating coagulated blood, but I'm wondering if I should try to make the player urinate blood coloured urine. Please post your ideas and suggestions.

 

[Generic dude]

 

For the next alpha/beta version of Private Needs 3.0, could you please add the sliders back, so we could modify bladder size/bladder points, bowel size/bowel points, dirt stages? Also by using console commands, I have managed to get my character dirty and the visuals do work but the player couldn't get dirty herself/himself over time as the HygienePoints didn't grow fast enough (did try to play with the hygiene points slider but with no noticeable result).

Yes, Sliders will be back in the next alpha version and as I've mentioned in previous posts, hygiene is already fixed and awaiting release for the next version.

 

On a side note, I plan to do something about vampirism and my current thoughts are, if the player is a vampire, then there will be no bowel movement since blood, well is just a liquid assuming the player isn't eating coagulated blood, but I'm wondering if I should try to make the player urinate blood coloured urine. Please post your ideas and suggestions.

 

Can i have some TP? TP for my bunghole?.

[richard19840706]

 

 

For the next alpha/beta version of Private Needs 3.0, could you please add the sliders back, so we could modify bladder size/bladder points, bowel size/bowel points, dirt stages? Also by using console commands, I have managed to get my character dirty and the visuals do work but the player couldn't get dirty herself/himself over time as the HygienePoints didn't grow fast enough (did try to play with the hygiene points slider but with no noticeable result).

Yes, Sliders will be back in the next alpha version and as I've mentioned in previous posts, hygiene is already fixed and awaiting release for the next version.

 

On a side note, I plan to do something about vampirism and my current thoughts are, if the player is a vampire, then there will be no bowel movement since blood, well is just a liquid assuming the player isn't eating coagulated blood, but I'm wondering if I should try to make the player urinate blood coloured urine. Please post your ideas and suggestions.

 

Can i have some TP? TP for my bunghole?.

 

Toilet paper has been added and will be in the next release.

 

[TheOtherGuy]

It's excellent to see you're back, richard. I have a recommendation for you - I know that you've been working on a standalone eat/drink portion of the mod as you said you did and would have tie-ins to RND. However, with RND no longer being supported and many RND users going over to iNeed, would it either be possible to tie-in with iNeed or borrow parts of its' (as I've heard it) very efficient code for eat/drink/sleeping? The reason i ask is because after converting to iNeed from RND, I noticed some 100 ms decrease in papyrus response time (using Conventient Horses' tool).

[richard19840706]

It's excellent to see you're back, richard. I have a recommendation for you - I know that you've been working on a standalone eat/drink portion of the mod as you said you did and would have tie-ins to RND. However, with RND no longer being supported and many RND users going over to iNeed, would it either be possible to tie-in with iNeed or borrow parts of its' (as I've heard it) very efficient code for eat/drink/sleeping? The reason i ask is because after converting to iNeed from RND, I noticed some 100 ms decrease in papyrus response time (using Conventient Horses' tool).

I'll take a look at iNeed and perhaps start a poll on what eat/drink/sleeping mod is the most popular with LL users.

 

Edit: I've made a poll for eat/drink/sleeping mods. Regardless of the outcome though I will eventually make a dedicated Private Needs eat/drink/sleeping mod. However, should the outcome be that most users want a dedicated Private Needs eat/drink/sleeping mod. Then I'll shift priorities and move that to the top of the list. By that I mean try and finish the dedicated eat/drink/sleeping section within the next few alpha releases. Otherwise, integration with other eat/drink/sleeping mods such as RND or iNeed will be done after I complete and stabilize 3.0.

[tryguy]

Richard, have you seen this mod? http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/29025/?

 

I noticed it some time ago, but I still haven't tried it in game to see how it played. What attracted me to it was the bathing part of it. Since you duplicate that in your own mod, I'm thinking it's not something you need to double up on. but, I liked how had consequences for when you were dirty. You could have the same happen, except it might incorporate sexual attractiveness as well.

 

There's currently a mod called SexLab Attraction that you might be able to tie in to how people perceive you in terms of cleanliness.

 

Anyway, just thought I'd bring it up since there's a discussion going on. I don't currenly play with any needs mods, since I got sick of spending all my money just keeping from starving last time I played (I had it so that food in barrels was rotten and such. I was pretty touch keeping up with water and food... /all my money.../). So, I think a simple system for needs would be great. Though, I might give iNeed a go. Not sure yet.

[bruce142]

I voted for Realistic Needs and Diseases. I'm hoping for a more integrated approach than with the 2.11 version, especially the last part "Diseases". Maybe you could get "the runs"/diarrhea if you eat spoiled/uncooked food. Also I think constipation should be a disease as well and not a withdraw for not relieving your bowels in time (maybe a "shit your pants" option for this similar to the "wet yourself" option?). Also it would be amazing if you could integrate a digestive system similar to the Baked Beans of Skyrim mod that would increase bladder and bowels on the basis of what you eat or drink (eg. if you drink 7 bottles of water, your bladder gets really full quick).

 

Also I have a question for richard19840706 : I'm currently working on a modern bathroom modder resource named Stroti Bathroom (adult only, you'll have to login into Skyrim Nexus to view) and I'm making the mod compatible with your Private Needs mod. I've finished the toilet (which cleans any instances of excrement in a radius of 100 when flushed using the Game.FindRandomReferenceOfTypeFromRef Papyrus script command) with actual water level rising and lowering. I'm still working on the bathtub (also with water level rising and lowering), if the player activates the bath, he/she will lay naked in the bathtub for a couple of seconds while the water level rises.

 

My question is how do I "clean" the dirty visuals? I already used hygienepoints.SetValue(0) in the script but dirty visuals do not update, is this fixed in the next version of Private Needs or do I have to use another Papyrus Script command?

 

 

Edit : Nevermind, I've found the RemovehygieneSpells() function in your PrivateNeedsBathingUtilityScript, which works beautifully.

[Generic dude]

 

 

 

For the next alpha/beta version of Private Needs 3.0, could you please add the sliders back, so we could modify bladder size/bladder points, bowel size/bowel points, dirt stages? Also by using console commands, I have managed to get my character dirty and the visuals do work but the player couldn't get dirty herself/himself over time as the HygienePoints didn't grow fast enough (did try to play with the hygiene points slider but with no noticeable result).

Yes, Sliders will be back in the next alpha version and as I've mentioned in previous posts, hygiene is already fixed and awaiting release for the next version.

 

On a side note, I plan to do something about vampirism and my current thoughts are, if the player is a vampire, then there will be no bowel movement since blood, well is just a liquid assuming the player isn't eating coagulated blood, but I'm wondering if I should try to make the player urinate blood coloured urine. Please post your ideas and suggestions.

 

Can i have some TP? TP for my bunghole?.

 

Toilet paper has been added and will be in the next release.

 

How it will work?, do you can't relive yourself without it or you can relieve but your dirtiness will be increased

[aqqh]

Voted for dedicated one - if you ll go into details like merging private needs with some use of devious devices or some sexlab mods/frameworks or whatever then none of mods that comes from nexus supports them in any way.

Sometime they even conflict - mentioned Drink eat... mod unequips all devious devices during bath for example.

 

So if your goal is to make your own and no longer supprort any of those later - i would say focus on it right away.