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Is your Skyrim stable? Is it even possible?

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I got it pretty stable by cleaning every master file, except the main Skyrim.esm.  I even cleaned the update.esm.  It was defintely more stable.  But Skyrim in and of itself, is very unstable.


 


If you can get at least 3 hours of play without crashing or Freezing, that's pretty normal.  The game needs to be restarted every 3 hours or so.  It just starts getting unstable for no reason.  But that's just the way the engine is.


 


If you are crashing a LOT without even an hour in, there is something with one of your mods or configuration of Skyrim settings. Bad scripts, missing scripts, invalid papyrus settings, etc etc.


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Well I am happy to say my skyrim is very stable. I solved any crazy errors and CTD's using over 100 mods too.Ive used less mods than that and have had many issues so not sure what i did differently this time around but hey im not complaining. It used to be so bad that I haven't been able to get far into skyrim so now that i am able im having a blast!


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A few tips I learned to get a fairly stable Skyrim:


 


1- Use a solid state drive if you can. A large amount of crashes come from accessing the drive for textures, meshes and sounds. Make this part as quickly as possible.


 


2- Use a video card with a large amount of VRAM (1 or 2 Gb). All those textures have to go somewhere :)


 


3- Pick your battles and chose high res textures only for what is absolutely necessary. I run with a very low resolution rock texture since rocks are used everywhere and I don't really care to see individual cracks on every single rock.


 


4- Avoid SKSE mods if possible. If you can't avoid them, save often and use a blank save to jumpstart your game.


 


5- Make regular backups of your whole Skyrim folder - you may have to revert back to an earlier stable state if you mess around with mods too much.


 


6- Inject new mods or updates to mods one at a time, so you will have a sense of what is causing crashes if your game suddenly starts acting out.


 


 


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Well I am happy to say my skyrim is very stable. I solved any crazy errors and CTD's using over 100 mods too.Ive used less mods than that and have had many issues so not sure what i did differently this time around but hey im not complaining. It used to be so bad that I haven't been able to get far into skyrim so now that i am able im having a blast!

What is the load order you use and have such stability?I made a recent thread asking for suggestions here hoping for more stability ( http://www.loverslab.com/topic/22426-seeking-advice-before-starting-again-a-new-playthrough-stability/ ) Is it comparable to mine?

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4- Avoid SKSE mods if possible. If you can't avoid them, save often and use a blank save to jumpstart your game.

 

Not all SKSE mods are bad; it's a matter of the modder who should produce and test stable code. SkyUI and iHud are the reasons why I use SKSE.

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4- Avoid SKSE mods if possible. If you can't avoid them, save often and use a blank save to jumpstart your game.

 

Not all SKSE mods are bad; it's a matter of the modder who should produce and test stable code. SkyUI and iHud are the reasons why I use SKSE.

 

 

Oh I completely agree... what I meant is that I have a *very* stable skyrim until I started tinkering with SKSE plugins. But since I have no clue about which script is causing crashes, it is just a hunch at this time. 

It could also be completely unrelated to SKSE and started happening around the same time I tried them out.

 

SKSE is fundamental to some of the best mods around. I wouldn't trade it for anything else :)

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Another thing to keep in mind is Bethesda engines hate two things frame rates over 60 and overclocks. In my experience an over clock that may be stable for everything else in your game library will cause skyrim/fallout etc to up and iimpload.strongly suggest testing with a default clock if your an over clocked if nothing else seems to work.

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I comitted the mistake of nuking my skyrim installation and start all over even when I was sure I did everything right and sudently got CDTs. CDTs doesnt mean at all your savegame is corrupted. A savegame is only corrupted if and when the game clearly states 'this savegame is corrupted and won't open', other than that, its mostly memory problems, or bloating, or bad mesh/skeleton compatibility, or a etc., etc. Memory problems can be easily solved aswell as bloating issues once you identify the plugin, do some clean through papyrus data transfer, savegame cleaner, and such, and continue with your conflicting plugins removed. Yeah, you'll have a dirty save, but a very stable one, I don't quite understand the obsession for 'clean saves'; nor dirty saves have anything to do with corrupted or not corrupted save, nor 'clean saves' has anything to do with game stability. Of course its better following some stepts, keeping backups, but if you're walkthroughed 10 quests and 20 dungeons and suddently you find a plugin burning your savegame, it's preferably keep in calm, do some cleaning here and there and continue.


 


Btw my current stable loadorder


 



Skyrim.esm

Update.esm

Dawnguard.esm

HearthFires.esm

Dragonborn.esm

ApachiiHair.esm

ClimatesOfTamriel.esm

SexLab.esm

SexLabAroused.esm

HentaiPregnancy.esm

SGHairPackBase.esm

ZaZAnimationPack.esm

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp

HighResTexturePack01.esp

HighResTexturePack02.esp

Brawl Bugs CE.esp

Chesko_Frostfall.esp

Dark NightsB.esp

Skyrim Shadow Striping Fix.esp

Hunterborn.esp

Hunterborn_Dawnguard-Patch.esp

Hunterborn_Frostfall-Patch.esp

LoversComfort.esp

MF_RadiantProstitution.esp

SexLab Dangerously Nude.esp

SkyUI.esp

iHUD.esp

Cloaks.esp

FlameAtronachArmor.esp

FullBootForKKSA.esp

Lady of Death.esp

Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp

Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp

Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp

TERAArmors_CBBE.esp

sanguinesDebauchery.esp

SDpatch - dawnguard.esp

SDpatch - dragonborn.esp

SDpatch - frostfall.esp

BetterQuestObjectives.esp

BetterQuestObjectives-DBForevertoMisc.esp

CutthroatMerchantsHard.esp

Headtracking.esp

LiFEv1.1.esp

mjhReducedGoldRewards.esp

HPSoulGemBirth.esp

SexLab Romance.esp

SexLab Submit.esp

xazPrisonOverhaul.esp

EnhancedLightsandFX.esp

ELFX - Exteriors.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hardcore.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-4.esp

ELFXEnhancer.esp

RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp

RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp

RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp

RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp

Hunterborn_RND-Patch.esp

Sit Anywhere.esp

SGHairPack06.esp

SGHairPack05.esp

SGHairPack04.esp

SG Hair 220 AllinTwo.esp

SGHairPack01.esp

SGHairPack03.esp

SGHairPack02.esp

TheEyesOfBeauty.esp

navetsea female face preset.esp

Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

BetterQuestObjectives-AlternateStartPatch.esp

Basvanbeu MuscleTextureChanger with Navetsea set.esp

CharGen Morphs.esp

CharGen ECE Morphs.esp

Bashed Patch, 0.esp


 


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Two Recent thingies:


One, The screen goes very black before a CTD. Like maybe, I'm walking along, Blackness ensues, and the desktop appears.


    Before, CTD's would happen a lot quicker; I'm not complaining, it's as if the film broke and the theater goes dark, which is better than ordinary crashes. 


 


Two, ten minutes ago, those rotating doors in Potema's catacombs have a very distinctive sound, the kind you'd hear in a sadistic tomb somewhere in an Indiana jones movie.


       So, the sound plays everywhere now.


            In the palace,


            In the Halfmoon Mill,


            It's haunting me.


            I googled it but apparently this is unique, Or I didn't read enough posts yet.


Apologies in advance, This is not a helpful reply, unless you're googling these problems 6 months from now.


If I had to guess, and I do, My scripts have gotten so massive and plentiful the game has trouble carrying on.


Papyrus.0.log

Papyrus.0.log

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I am absolutely the WORST type of mod user you can possibly imagine.

I download indiscriminately, install dirty mods, slap conflicting mods together, don't back up my saves/files, probably install in the incorrect order... name it, I have probably done it.

However, I usually run a pretty stable game, up until about level 30+ and I begin to run into a few crashes here and there. I keep going, just ignoring and reloading and saving every couple of minutes or so. I keep crashing, and crashing... soon I give up and scrap the save, and start another from the very beginning.

Funny thing is... I have installed mods CORRECTLY, in the CORRECT ORDER, and fixed the dirty edits, and downloaded various crash protection mods, and unofficial patches, and spent 40+ hours of crash free game play, only to end up with the same result. Crashity crash crash. I honestly don't think it's reasonable to assume that you will EVER have a fully stable Skyrim... perfect mods or not... it's just how the game is.

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Modding Skyrim is like having unprotected sex. It might feel good riding bareback, especially when you've had a few Smirnoffs. But sooner or later you're going to get a nasty CTD. All it takes is one single slip up and you can find yourself with a bun in the oven and on a one-way Greyhound to Crash City. 


 


Translation for the teetotal virgins among us - the only real recipe for a relatively trouble free long term save is to firmly establish a load order of mods that are well proven to be tickety-boo, and that means everything that's been remotely iffy in the past is ruthlessly thrown overboard regardless of how essential it might seem. No swapping out or modifying at all at any point in the playthrough, just an inert load order of solid mods with a proven history of stability. 


 


And even that's no guarantee the engine won't just shake itself to bits anyway. Entropy's a bitch. 


 


 


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My Skyrim is stable... For now....

50 hours played on my current character. mods installed and uninstalled mid-game. I'm using the Civil War Overhaul and fortunately I'm having no problems this time.

But.... something might just happen at any time and fuck the save up.

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My Skyrim is stable... For now....

50 hours played on my current character. mods installed and uninstalled mid-game. I'm using the Civil War Overhaul and fortunately I'm having no problems this time.

But.... something might just happen at any time and fuck the save up.

There's always one....

 

;)

 

edit: I'm not being horrible btw GV, but whenever this subject comes up someone inevitably says  "I do lots of shit and I don't CTD". Maybe you're in a slim majority for all I know. I Doubt it though. 

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  I hardly ever ctd maybe once every 8 hours of continuous play ( i know get a life) but... loading games can be a bit prickly . if a save wont load i go to a new chr creation and once the game loads in go to the save load and presto i am in. according to my pap its mostly frostfall slugging it out with my cpu. Frostfall causes me grief but it is still one of my favorite mods.


 


 


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There's always one....

;)

I've had a PC since Jan 31st 2104 and been modding Skyrim since the day I got it. The game was never "stable" for me until december 2014. But then I did some of the Civil War (Was using the previous version of the CWO) And the save started to mess up once I did the battle for Whiterun. quests breaking, dialogue boxes not showing and some other stuff, but rarely getting CTDs. Then the CWO updated, I started new game with the updated version and this time things are stable. I've got far in the war this time (just got the battle for Solitude to do) and things are looking fine.

I've got a feeling I'll finish the war with no problems, then I'll continue with the MQ and the save will corrupt before I finish it. :lol:

And IF that happens, I'll probably give up on playing as Valenira. :(

Would have probably given up on modding Skyrim if I still used NMM. Mod Organizer is just soooo sexy!

Edit: I didn't see your post as horrible. I know what you mean. Thing is, my game looks stable, but I do know the game could just mess up at any time. :P

Also, I never used to be able to Alt-Tab in and out of it, but I have been able to for a few weeks now.

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I currently have the max esms / esps allowed by skyrim (244). Though stacked upon one another mods in general, I'd say roughly around 300-400 (or more). Skyrim itself on my PC is probably around 50+ gigs. I only recently started getting CTDs, but what sucks is that my most recent file is seriously bugged in which I cannot remove vampirism/ can't feed / get attacked by everything in a 100ft radius. Even with save cleaning and such / console commands/ race changing / cure disease / statues. (but this is why we use backup saves losing an hour / days worth of content).


Point being, mine seems to be pretty stable and resilient. You may want to try some unnofficial patches (I just recently got), or save cleaning / wyre bask / boss etc. they work wonders, and with my 300+ hours on hand in skyrim (mostly loitering / trying new characters / searching for random followers before i learned to properly use the console command to summon them/ new clothing mods / random dungeons), I don't really have many issues. Although after getting the RCOTs / interesting npcs / other overlapping mods I have been getting an issue with characters not wearing clothing but script resetting helps that. (though progress will be lost in the process).


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After months of trial and error,my Skyrim finally attained a state of perfectly stability...but then the hardware failed.


I'll try to run the same set up of stability enhancing mods on a new installment on the PC that I'm slowly futzing around with constructing ever so carefully at this very moment then I can be sure whether or not it was merely a fluke or not.


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Would have probably given up on modding Skyrim if I still used NMM. Mod Organizer is just soooo sexy!

 

Yeah same here, when I moved to MO it was the last chance saloon for Skyrim, I was just about a spent force at that point. 

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I keep adding mods as I play. I'm currently at 380 mods and surprisingly, I almost never CTD. I use Perkus Maximus and all


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200+ esps


 


I never check for mod confllcts. At all.


 


Using quality enb for gameplay 100% of the time.


 


With a not-so-high-end pc.


 


Only crash 1-3 times per week.


 


I'm one lucky son of a bitch.


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