sigh broken oblivion

[demongoat]

so something really broke in my oblivion install.

i start a new game and it doesn't even crash, the screen goes black and just quits.

this is without any mods checked and i moved my oblivion dir in my docs.

someone got an idea? i really don't relish uninstalling it

[gregathit]

Remove the arrow from your computer and THEN cast the healing spell....

How are you starting your game, via OBSE or Wrye or OBMM?

[Ryanhabs]

Was this happening before you relocated your Oblivion files from your original install folder? Did you have any mods installed previously that skipped or altered the original opening sequence?

[Dreamer102]

Sounds like you got pushed the same video driver update I got stuck with friday night.

I had my oblivion install working PERFECTLY! Playing for 4-hour periods and LOVING it!

Until friday frickin night...

ATI decided to push out their "Ver 11.11 Catalyst" driver package and before I could think twice it had downloaded to my PC and overwrote everything that I had loaded already.

Sure enough, as soon as I start my game....black screen of death.

CTRL-ALT-DEL, end game process, uninstall the entire ATI driver package and software from my PC, Reboot, load up the "ver 10" driver package, start Oblivion...everything works, but now I can only play for 30 minutes before the game crashes.

I'm right back in the hellhole I was in a month ago all over again...

I f'n hate this godforsaken game and if I ever meet someone that works for Bethesda I'm gonna kick their ass just on principle.

Every little thing that happens to your PC mucks with this damnable game, from loading up a new keyboard or mouse, to leaving the internet connected to looking at your computer wrong.

This is the only game on my darn PC that acts like this.

[demongoat]

crap so 11.11b is the problem? bleh stupid catalyst drivers i saw there was an issue with skyrim maybe it is the same thing.

yeah i start it through bash + obse.

[HentaiGnome]

To be fair, Dreamer102, I also updated my ATI Catalyst drivers to 11.11 but it didn't mess up my current install of Oblivion. All mods are working like they should and the game still looks as good as ever. I do notice a slight (and I mean REALLY SLIGHT) black flicker upon loading the game, but it's really quick and does not appear ever again until I quit and reload the game. Then again, I don't have any graphic mods like OBGE and QTP3 so I may have lucked out.

[gregathit]

Well, this just goes to prove what I have always believed: "if it ain't broke, don't fix it!!!"

I never upgrade video drivers (or windows for that matter) unless I am having an issue. Then I make damn sure I have a restore point to fall back on (been burned by microstupid too many times).

I damn sure don't upgrade when things are preforming swimmingly as I ain't a gettin' paid to be some fellar's beta tester!!!!

Hopefully, you can roll back your drivers and maybe even you windows to restore things to the way they were (you might check that out Dreamer!)

[demongoat]

Well' date=' this just goes to prove what I have always believed: "if it ain't broke, don't fix it!!!"

I never upgrade video drivers (or windows for that matter) unless I am having an issue. Then I make damn sure I have a restore point to fall back on (been burned by microstupid too many times).

I damn sure don't upgrade when things are preforming swimmingly as I ain't a gettin' paid to be some fellar's beta tester!!!!

Hopefully, you can roll back your drivers and maybe even you windows to restore things to the way they were (you might check that out Dreamer!)

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i think it might just be done

i was making some new textures and was testing them with a new char and realized they didn't look right and exited and *poof* the game wouldn't start.

[gregathit]

Are you positive you didn't have something in the background running that auto-updated itself? I had this happen long ago to me and now I make sure that all auto updates are turned off.

[beck11]

Lol ATI.

[Dreamer102]

To be fair' date=' Dreamer102, I also updated my ATI Catalyst drivers to 11.11 but it didn't mess up my current install of Oblivion. All mods are working like they should and the game still looks as good as ever. I do notice a slight (and I mean REALLY SLIGHT) black flicker upon loading the game, but it's really quick and does not appear ever again until I quit and reload the game. Then again, I don't have any graphic mods like OBGE and QTP3 so I may have lucked out.

[/quote']

Lucky you. I wish I had the same luck/setup. I do run the OBGE Shaders for my game, though I have the ESP disabled.

Well' date=' this just goes to prove what I have always believed: "if it ain't broke, don't fix it!!!"

I never upgrade video drivers (or windows for that matter) unless I am having an issue. Then I make damn sure I have a restore point to fall back on (been burned by microstupid too many times).

I damn sure don't upgrade when things are preforming swimmingly as I ain't a gettin' paid to be some fellar's beta tester!!!!

Hopefully, you can roll back your drivers and maybe even you windows to restore things to the way they were (you might check that out Dreamer!)

[/quote']

Generally, I do the same. But I had a "senior moment" and clicked "ok" trying to get some gaming in before the wife started talking to me. I haven't updated windows-7 since the last re-install when an MS-Update screwed up my "Explorer.exe" causing constant reboots.

I don't download any updates except to my antivirus definition files and I THOUGHT i had everything set to "OFF" on this damnable pc so that nothing downloads.

Sure enough the bloody vid-card app was forgotten. Damn thing downloaded it behind my back and I clicked the button/pulled the trigger.

Everything was going soooo well...

Damnable catalyst software.

I HATE all this frickin "auto-update" crap!!!!

[gregathit]

I hear ya there! Been where you are and suffered! Did you see if Windows made a restore point that you can roll back to?

[demongoat]

I hear ya there! Been where you are and suffered! Did you see if Windows made a restore point that you can roll back to?

me? i can't restore it

[gregathit]

Demon, hopefully the reinstall won't be too painful.

[demongoat]

Demon' date=' hopefully the reinstall won't be too painful.

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about 90 gigs worth

lots of stuff, mods and clothing i never even got to play with, bleh i hate gamebro games sometimes.

think the game would break if i just moved the dir? everything but the game files? all my data?

[gregathit]

If you move the data and reinstall the game itself you should be fine. Remember to uninstall OBMM (it will likely hang due to being moved).

[demongoat]

If you move the data and reinstall the game itself you should be fine. Remember to uninstall OBMM (it will likely hang due to being moved).

good point, it should all work since most of it is esp and textures/meshes right?

sigh now i gotta just hope i can fix my dvd drive it seems to be not working.

bleh so many problems.

[Dreamer102]

I'm going to try reinstalling the stupid game into my game folder outside of "Program Files" tonight. then I will copy the "Data" folder info from my backup into the new location and relink my shortcuts.

If it works then I will be a happy camper...this "Crash after 30 minutes" crap is really starting to make me hate gaming.

I can run fricken CRYSIS on high detail if I wanted to but I can't run fricken Oblivion on Medium!!?!?!?!

WTF??

Frickin half-assed coders with their single-core POS gamebryo engine garbage fricken bethesda junk!!!!

[demongoat]

I'm going to try reinstalling the stupid game into my game folder outside of "Program Files" tonight. then I will copy the "Data" folder info from my backup into the new location and relink my shortcuts.

If it works then I will be a happy camper...this "Crash after 30 minutes" crap is really starting to make me hate gaming.

I can run fricken CRYSIS on high detail if I wanted to but I can't run fricken Oblivion on Medium!!?!?!?!

WTF??

Frickin half-assed coders with their single-core POS gamebryo engine garbage fricken bethesda junk!!!!

no kidding! the worst engine in a AAA game ever, of course my game was crazy modded so i guess that would be the fate of the game, choking on my mods lol.

[gregathit]

Demon, did you ever get your game back up and running?

[Dreamer102]

If you move the data and reinstall the game itself you should be fine. Remember to uninstall OBMM (it will likely hang due to being moved).

If you have mod-leftovers in your data folder due to deleting ESP files willy-nilly, will this cause a problem?

Because that is something I have done in this latest installation dating back about 4 months ago.

If it is a problem, I will have to simply reinstall and choose the valued mods to put into the new installation. I will, of course, be copying my modded xLovers ESP files over to the new installation.

This is gonna take at least a week to get sorted out JUST to get things to the point where I can import one of my last saves and pick up where I left off.

[gregathit]

If you move the data and reinstall the game itself you should be fine. Remember to uninstall OBMM (it will likely hang due to being moved).

If you have mod-leftovers in your data folder due to deleting ESP files willy-nilly' date=' will this cause a problem?

Because that is something I have done in this latest installation dating back about 4 months ago.

If it is a problem, I will have to simply reinstall and choose the valued mods to put into the new installation. I will, of course, be copying my modded xLovers ESP files over to the new installation.

This is gonna take at least a week to get sorted out JUST to get things to the point where I can import one of my last saves and pick up where I left off.

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Should be no issues whatsoever beyond having to reinstall OBMM and or Wrye Bash if they hang.

[Dreamer102]

Really?

Wow, that may make things easier.

1. I will rename the original install folder and then clean out any mods that I'm not using inside it.

2. Reinstall Oblivion in the alternate location.

3. Reinstall OBMM, TES-CS and BOSS (forego Wrye since I never used it much)

4. Copy over data folder from old installation to new installation.

Worse comes to worse and it doesn't work...I'm simply back at square one with an easy "wipe and restart".

[gregathit]

I have done it before with oblivion, and Fallout New Vegas myself.

[Dreamer102]

Kewl, thanks so much for the confirmation.

I'm praying that the problem with constant crashing has something to do with corruption in the base install files for Oblivion.

I did the 4gb patch to the oblivion.exe, obse.exe and obmm.exe a LOOOOONG time ago and I probably broke something.

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