Huge drop in FPS suddenly

[Shinobi556]

Hi!

I'm posting this to see if anyone can help me resolve this problem:

I was playing as usual then out of nowhere i get a massive drop in FPS and the game slows right down except when in inventory/containers etc.

I have a good rig and have played with no such problems before on high settings. Whatsmore the problem seems to stick whether i change cell or not.

At first i thought it might be related to the "200+ hours of gametime problem" where players sometimes get animation slow downs such as fire burning slow and doors opening slow (which is fixed with OAF - Oblivion Animation fixer V1.2)

so i applied the fix again but no result.

I tried disabling any mods i thought could lead to this also but no result (Better cities/Unique Landscapes...).

I have streamline but doesn't seem to help for this.

Maybe too many mods? I have around 140 esp/esm/omod

What is strange is that when i load a savegame i did just before the FPS drop it's fine for a few seconds then boom again.

Please help! the game is unbearable like this lol.

EDIT: Solved

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Having made 3 backups of my Data folder (each one is ~ 16GB), i finally managed to narrow the problem right down to the exact file causing the FPS issue: "vipcxj_plugin_collection.dll"  it is in Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins.

I think i got it after needing VipCjxs Real High Heels system for GSB modders' great "BBB Elven Sorceress Robe for Vipcxjs Real High Heels System" which I really recommend btw!

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[Ragged Robin]

Shinobi556

Do you use Wrye Bash? It has tha facility to reset the abomb and remove bloat from your save game.

just click on the saves tab, right click on the save game and reset abomb. I'd back up the save first though. It might help.

[Shinobi556]

I don't have Wrye Bash, i will try this. Thanks for the advice Ragged.

[s60yucca]

reset your oblivion.ini may help, then enable some setting again.

i recent got this problem, reinstall oblivion didn't help then i reset oblivion.ini it worked again

[Dreamer102]

reset your oblivion.ini may help' date=' then enable some setting again.

i recent got this problem, reinstall oblivion didn't help then i reset oblivion.ini it worked again

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I will try this first.

Does anyone have a guide to installing Wrye Bash? I tried before but couldn't get that stupid python crap to install...thus making Wrye Bash incapable of starting.

:'(

[Shinobi556]

It is somehow fixed  ;D

I installed Wrye Bash and did as you suggested Ragged (reset Abomb & unbloat).

I also edited the .ini following the anim unstick suggestions from a forum elsewhere.

However when i reloaded save it now tells me OBSE is required for lovers, yet i did not do anything with OBSE.

I will tend to that matter now and see whether it breaks the game again...

[Shinobi556]

reset your oblivion.ini may help' date=' then enable some setting again.

i recent got this problem, reinstall oblivion didn't help then i reset oblivion.ini it worked again

[/quote']

I will try this first.

Does anyone have a guide to installing Wrye Bash? I tried before but couldn't get that stupid python crap to install...thus making Wrye Bash incapable of starting.

:'(

I installed Wrye Bash without problem.

First the Wrye Python 03a files (install everything from it) and then used

the Wrye Bash 291 Installer Version

[s60yucca]

to reset ini file, you dont need Wrye bash, just copy original ini file from oblivion folder to my games\oblivion folder in your my documents, or if you installed Tweak setting. then just click on restore data.

[Dreamer102]

Okay, I installed Wrye bash successfully last night. I used it to repair my savegame and remove bloat and abomb and it worked. However, I do believe that there is a mod that is killing my game. Sadly, I think it's the Vilja mod... :'(

Crap, it was so nice having her around...

[Shinobi556]

to reset ini file' date=' you dont need Wrye bash, just copy original ini file from oblivion folder to my games\oblivion folder in your my documents, or if you installed Tweak setting. then just click on restore data.

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My problem reappeared...

I tried with original .ini but it did not fix it i'm afraid (FPS=6 when walking around and 60 when inside inventory or speaking with npcs).

I have now re-installed oblivion and using my .ini but when i launch game i get a msg "Lovers rapers (or contraception) could not register callback function"

I clik "OK", the game freezes, I must then Ctrl+alt+del to desktop...

Re-applying all lovers mods now... (At least it doesn't seem to be lagging before i get the msg).

EDIT: Turns out i had to load an older savegame - the "reset Abomb" and "unbloating" corrupts the save you do it to. However the old savegame is more or less stable (as soon as i look into a very full container, the lag reappears to never go away). Meh, i guess i'll leave it at that :/

[sora3]

In terms of dropping in the FPS department, look at your renderware info. If you're using a newer card, the info may be causing the issue. In my game, I usually get drops in FPS when I was using the wrong shader info. After forcing the shader info, I managed to get more FPS.

[Shinobi556]

In terms of dropping in the FPS department' date=' look at your renderware info. If you're using a newer card, the info may be causing the issue. In my game, I usually get drops in FPS when I was using the wrong shader info. After forcing the shader info, I managed to get more FPS.

[/quote']

Am using ATI HD5770... It was allways fine till at some point in the game everything slows down to ~6 FPS except when i speak to npcs or look at inventories. I tried changing the video settings down to minimum and on 800X600 but it still lags like hell and looks worse lol.

I'm now playing an older save where this problem hadn't occured yet, but i must be really carefull what i do, for instance: if i decide to open "Bag of holding" and place items inside, it results in immediate re-occurance of the FPS drop (which never goes away, unless u load).

Sometimes when i drop items on the ground in front of me, the FPS drops again... I'm sure i have yet to discover more ways to initiate it, much to my disliking

[s60yucca]

If you are playing on win7 64 bit, i have a very weird fix, simple Alt Tab out to windows and Alt-Tab into game again. dont know what it free memory or what but game run smooth again after alt-tab

[Dreamer102]

I've decided to just get rid of most of my mods that aren't really important and see if that helps my game. Of course, I will have to start a new character since the one I love and have used for the past year will not load properly without all the mods.

Damn game...

[Shinobi556]

If you are playing on win7 64 bit' date=' i have a very weird fix, simple Alt Tab out to windows and Alt-Tab into game again. dont know what it free memory or what but game run smooth again after alt-tab

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I do run on x64, but ALT-TAB allways results in a CTD for me lol ^^

I've decided to just get rid of most of my mods that aren't really important and see if that helps my game. Of course' date=' I will have to start a new character since the one I love and have used for the past year will not load properly without all the mods.

Damn game...

I thought about doing this too, but i cant stand losing ~420 hours of gameplay

Do you have the same problem as I Dreamer??

[Dreamer102]

Yes I do.

I don't know what the problem is. My game worked great until I loaded up the "Vilja Companion" mod and a few other mods. I've since scrapped them all but my game still locks up 10 seconds into the game. I have tried going back to a savegame from a week ago...the problem still persists.

I've installing WRYE BASH and having that application attempt to fix my savegame, it fixes my savegame and the game is playable, but my xLovers system gets broken.

At this point I don't know what to do. I have a few choices.

1. Use Wrye bash to fix my savegame and delete my xLovers mods.

2. Start a new character and lose a year's worth of effort.

3. Reinstall Oblivion...nah...if I have to do that I'll just delete this $#*t game.

4. Hope and pray that someone on this forum can provide a solution.

5. Try a different load order or having someone inspect my load order.

6. Quit the game and try to find something else to do with my time.

[Dreamer102]

Well, I've resolved to do the following.

1. Scrap my current data folder and restore from my backup image from a month ago. Before any of this wackiness started. (Working xLovers, Tantrivaylia and HGEC-H-BBB) Keeping everything but my data folder means I keep my modded Oblivion.exe that can take advantage of my 4gb of ram.

2. Reapply my RTNM, OBGE, OSR, Purgecellbuffer, Streamline and lower my Texture size to Medium.

3. Sort through my mods and see which ones are really needed and install them, foregoing the mods that I installed in the past 2 weeks (Vilja companion, Oblivion Soulgems, Moon2CHlives, Traveling NPCs, and any of the mods from the japanese sites found on here.

4. Reapply the necessary mods and monitor my game for stability whilst trying to recover my latest savegame.

If it fails I will just have to leave for a while and return when the depression passes.

[sora3]

In terms of dropping in the FPS department' date=' look at your renderware info. If you're using a newer card, the info may be causing the issue. In my game, I usually get drops in FPS when I was using the wrong shader info. After forcing the shader info, I managed to get more FPS.

[/quote']

Am using ATI HD5770... It was allways fine till at some point in the game everything slows down to ~6 FPS except when i speak to npcs or look at inventories. I tried changing the video settings down to minimum and on 800X600 but it still lags like hell and looks worse lol.

I'm now playing an older save where this problem hadn't occured yet, but i must be really carefull what i do, for instance: if i decide to open "Bag of holding" and place items inside, it results in immediate re-occurance of the FPS drop (which never goes away, unless u load).

Sometimes when i drop items on the ground in front of me, the FPS drops again... I'm sure i have yet to discover more ways to initiate it, much to my disliking

I used to have a 5770 and I was able to get it running at 1440 * 900 (max details and forced AA with HDR) with no problems with FPS issues. Try forcing the shaders by this way.

Look at the renderware info and note which package Oblivion has told the graphics to use. Make a copy of shader package 19 (this is the most updated and SM3.0 available). Backup the package your card is currently using and make the copy of shader package 19 into that package (e.g. shader package 19 -> shader  package 17). Run Oblivion. It should be fine as I did it and no problems there.

Also, add in the Oblivion stutter remover.

[Shinobi556]

I used to have a 5770 and I was able to get it running at 1440 * 900 (max details and forced AA with HDR) with no problems with FPS issues. Try forcing the shaders by this way.

Look at the renderware info and note which package Oblivion has told the graphics to use. Make a copy of shader package 19 (this is the most updated and SM3.0 available). Backup the package your card is currently using and make the copy of shader package 19 into that package (e.g. shader package 19 -> shader  package 17). Run Oblivion. It should be fine as I did it and no problems there.

Also' date=' add in the Oblivion stutter remover.

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So I changed the shaders round (17 > 19) launched the game and my bag of holding was working!!

Turns out I had one of those moments when u think its fixed and all, then it screws up lol. So I guess it's not the shaders :/ But thanks all the same.

Ah, I already have OSR...

[Shinobi556]

Yes I do.

I don't know what the problem is. My game worked great until I loaded up the \"Vilja Companion\" mod and a few other mods. I've since scrapped them all but my game still locks up 10 seconds into the game. I have tried going back to a savegame from a week ago...the problem still persists.

I've installing WRYE BASH and having that application attempt to fix my savegame' date=' it fixes my savegame and the game is playable, but my xLovers system gets broken.

[/quote']

Exact same symptoms

I am doing a clean install and going to re-apply everything one by one carefully.

3. Sort through my mods and see which ones are really needed and install them' date=' [b']foregoing the mods that I installed in the past 2 weeks (Vilja companion, Oblivion Soulgems, Moon2CHlives, Traveling NPCs, and any of the mods from the japanese sites found on here.

Same problem yet on my side I have none of the above mentioned mods except of course lovers... anyhow let me know how it goes. ;D

[Dreamer102]

Well, Last night I deleted my data folder and started again clean.

I installed all of my graphics mods, my fps mods, my companion mods and my xLovers mods.

My old savegame STILL wouldn't work right. I got it to load up but it wouldn't save at all. Crash on autosave, crash on streamsave, crash on loading new area, crash on full save.

So I sat back and had a little depression session and then thought about what I had done in the past week. I remembered that I added a mod/application called "PurgeCellBuffer" that clears your buffers everytime you change cells or load a new area. Well, I also had STREAMLINE doing the same thing!

Apparently my game became corrupted because I was not letting it hold anything in memory long enough to save any valid information by having both of those apps running.

Since STREAMLINE is the more effective of the two, I disabled and deleted "PurgeCellBuffer" and my game worked properly again. Sadly, my corrupted savegames put me back at level 55 and about 80 hours into the game (Before I wrecked it). I decided that I would use my new character and start a new game with just me, Vilja and Astrianna 2.0 for fun.

I'll miss being a level 80 all powerful vampire king, but I will have a chance to rebuild my kingdom the way I want and with less clutter. Though I still can't enter the "Bloated Float" without the game crashing for some reason...

:/

[sora3]

Well' date=' Last night I deleted my data folder and started again clean.

I installed all of my graphics mods, my fps mods, my companion mods and my xLovers mods.

My old savegame STILL wouldn't work right. I got it to load up but it wouldn't save at all. Crash on autosave, crash on streamsave, crash on loading new area, crash on full save.

So I sat back and had a little depression session and then thought about what I had done in the past week. I remembered that I added a mod/application called \"PurgeCellBuffer\" that clears your buffers everytime you change cells or load a new area. Well, I also had STREAMLINE doing the same thing!

Apparently my game became corrupted because I was not letting it hold anything in memory long enough to save any valid information by having both of those apps running.

Since STREAMLINE is the more effective of the two, I disabled and deleted \"PurgeCellBuffer\" and my game worked properly again. Sadly, my corrupted savegames put me back at level 55 and about 80 hours into the game (Before I wrecked it). I decided that I would use my new character and start a new game with just me, Vilja and Astrianna 2.0 for fun.

I'll miss being a level 80 all powerful vampire king, but I will have a chance to rebuild my kingdom the way I want and with less clutter. Though I still can't enter the \"Bloated Float\" without the game crashing for some reason...

:/

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The Bloated Float and the associated quest line is quite f*cked really. I've checked and it does have an issue whenever you sleep in general (some bug that I won't fix/touch as it messes around with the bsa files >). The only way around it is to use setstage or just wait.

[Dreamer102]

Oh! I didn't know that. I thought something in my game was broken. I remember a few years ago when I played thru that quest I didn't get any errors. Now it no longer works. Not that I miss it, it just messed up me meeting "Vilja" for the first time. Had to do the "moveto player" trick since I couldn't get into the boat to get to her.  :

[Shinobi556]

4,5 hours of piecing my game back together with all my old mods active - except for all Lovers - and it's working nicely. Fingers crossed for the cherry on the cake!  :-X

[Dreamer102]

Awesome!!

Doesn't it suck how long it takes to get things back to good?