breakundies crashes oblivion on startup???

[monoto7]

well not exactly the main .esm file, but the clothes.

any ideas?

i have a massive mod list(and i wanted to be lightweight this time lol)

if anyone wants ill copy'n'paste my mod-list

but i dont get how they would crash it(curse my very unstable oblivion(imaitems even crashs it on startup)

[Herman777]

I could offer my advice, but people wiser than myself may have allready answered your question in this thread:

/>http://www.loverslab.com/index.php?topic=12.0

[Guest Donkey]

well not exactly the main .esm file' date=' but the clothes.

any ideas?

i have a massive mod list(and i wanted to be lightweight this time lol)

if anyone wants ill copy'n'paste my mod-list

but i dont get how they would crash it(curse my very unstable oblivion(imaitems even crashs it on startup)

[/quote']

breakundies crashes oblivion on startup???

Crashes on start-op. mean you are missing master files. Crack open with OBMM and see if you can find what is missing. or use wreybash

if your game still loads, and break undies crashes your game then, try using your lovers with pk spell and activate the BU mods from within this spell.

[monoto7]

nope checked and i have all the files(oblivion and bu framework)

[sora3]

When does the crash occur? Does it occur when you're loading a save or when the intro videos are loading? More details!

[monoto7]

just before/after the first intro video

[sora3]

Then you have a master file missing. Use Wyre Bash and find what file is causing the problem.

[monoto7]

i definitely don't, break undies only master is oblivion and as i said before its the clothes and none of them have any other dependencies! its the same with loads of mods. could it be a conflict?

[squares]

Do you have AddMotion Changer.esp activated? I had similar issues with it.

[sora3]

i definitely don't' date=' break undies only master is oblivion and as i said before its the clothes and none of them have any other dependencies! its the same with loads of mods. could it be a conflict?

[/quote']

@ squares, that is a possibility but he doesn't have that mod clearly.

@ OP, it is a definite conflict but unfortunately, we can't help that much unless you tried what I suggested. Wyre Bash is probably the best tool to figuring out what went wrong. OBMM is only one tool but it can't help in terms of diagnosing problems.

The only other issue is that your Oblivion ini may have been corrupted. Delete the ini and relaunch Oblivion. It should generate a new ini and hopefully, this might provide some insight.

[Herman777]

monoto7,

Squares question above is important; are you using the motion changer addon?  Also which version of BU Framework are you using?

Which BU armor specifically?  Have you edited your BreakUndies.ini to make use of the armor?  Do you have the original armor installed?  (Most BU gear does not come with the original meshes.)

Which body meshes do you use?  Which skeleton?  I don't think having the wrong meshes or skeleton would cause a crash, but who knows?

[Guest Donkey]

Also post your full load order. From that list most things can be solved. Right now with the little description you gave it is only speculation. And no one can see what the real problem is.

[monoto7]

active mods:

  00 BreakUndies.esm

⢠ Delinquent Master: Oblivion.esm

⢠ 01 TamagoClub.esm

⢠ 02 HiyokoClub.esm

⢠ 03 Oblivion.esm

⢠ 04 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm [Version 4.5b]

⢠ 05 CM Partners.esm

⢠ 06 Skingrad24Vars.esm

⢠ 07 Lovers with PK.esm

⢠ 08 LoversCreature.esm

⢠ 09 CLS-Craftybits.esm

⢠ 0A Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm

⢠ 0B x117race.esm

⢠ 0C Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm [Version 4.5b]

⢠ 0D Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.7b3p3]

⢠ 0E HorseCombatMaster.esm

⢠ 0F Artifacts.esm

⢠ 10 xeoex.esp

⢠ 11 HUDCompanions.esp

⢠ 12 CTAddPose_2ch_(Hentai).esp

⢠ 13 CTAddPose_gobu.esp

⢠ 14 CTAddPose_Dsk(erori)Pose.esp

⢠ 15 LoversRaperSGalgat.esp

⢠ 16 LoversTamagoClub.esp

⢠ 17 TamagoPlayerHUD.esp

⢠ 18 LoversBitch.esp

⢠ Delinquent Master: Lovers with PK.esp

⢠ 19 sitdown.esp

⢠ 1A LoversTrueCrimeEx.esp

⢠ 1B walk.esp

⢠ 1C Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp

⢠ 1D Francesco's Optional Leveled Quests.esp

⢠ 1E Francesco's Optional Leveled Arena.esp

⢠ 1F Francesco's Optional Files 2.esp

⢠ 20 DLCShiveringIsles.esp

⢠ 21 Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.4.2]

⢠ 22 Goranga restaurant job.esp

⢠ 23 Alir'sArmor.esp

⢠ 24 Blakeley's Lachrymal Bow.esp

⢠ 25 BlackLuster.esp

⢠ 26 blacktemplarweapons.esp

⢠ 27 BWisteria.esp

⢠ 28 Christian's Claymore.esp

⢠ 29 Daedric Trap Weapons.esp

⢠ 2A DarkIllusionArmor.esp

⢠ 2B Dreadweave Complete_Heavy.esp

⢠ 2C ElegantVests.esp

⢠ 2D EY_BM_Armory.esp

⢠ 2E FinalFantasy10BrotherhoodswordNEW.esp

⢠ 2F GoldenShadowArmor.esp

⢠ 30 GothicGirls.esp

⢠ 31 Joe's Energy Bow.esp

⢠ 32 KCS7.esp

⢠ 33 LTDVampireOverhaul.esp

⢠ 34 Muggervamp.esp [Version 3.7]

⢠ 35 LittleCarmine.esp

⢠ 36 New Frostmourne Sword by Jojjo v1_0.esp

⢠ 37 NewbsArmoredRobes.esp

⢠ 38 Noble Plate Armory.esp

⢠ 39 Nico's Quinga Bows.esp

⢠ 3A CuteElf11.esp [Version 1.3.5]

⢠ 3B RuLZ Weapons.esp

⢠ 3C Ryk_Sandals.esp

⢠ 3D CM Partners.esp

⢠ 3E CM Partners Special NPCs.esp

⢠ 3F Ryk_SorceressArmor.esp

⢠ 40 CM Partners NPC.esp

⢠ 41 SaberLily.esp

⢠ 42 CM Partners More NPCs.esp

⢠ 43 scummsWeaponRack.esp

⢠ 44 CM Partners Marker NPCs.esp

⢠ 45 SexyTops.esp

⢠ 46 CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp

⢠ 47 Shdw_weapon pack01.esp

⢠ 48 Sinblood's Widow Dress.esp

⢠ 49 SK_Berserk_v0.6.esp

⢠ 4A Spirit Blade.esp

⢠ 4B Sword of the Rivan King.esp

⢠ 4C tda_ScytheModv1.2.esp

⢠ 4D tkRapiers.esp

⢠ 4E Ryk_AtholBrose.esp

⢠ 4F Blood Illusion and Arcania armors for Exnem's body.esp

⢠ 50 JB Catsuit Variants.esp [Version 1.5.]

⢠ 51 JB Catsuit Weapons.esp [Version 1.5.]

⢠ 52 DarkFlameSwordAndShield_v10_FIXED_ESP.esp

⢠ 53 Arynns-Heavenly-Sword_HGEC-sexy.esp

⢠ 54 Nightshade_Armor.esp

⢠ 55 FenrirTheWolf.esp

⢠ 56 Miners n Pickaxes.esp

⢠ 57 Theryon.esp

⢠ 58 YGShop.esp

⢠ 59 za_bankmod.esp

⢠ 5A RTT.esp

⢠ 5B Ungarion1TheWelkyndSword.esp [Version 1.4]

⢠ 5C SkoomaDeals.esp

⢠ 5D Millstone_Farm.esp

⢠ 5E Player's Diary.esp

⢠ 5F LoversFSE.esp

⢠ 60 LoversPayBandit.esp

⢠ 61 Lovers with PK.esp [Version 89]

⢠ 62 LoversCreature.esp

⢠ 63 LoversCreatureExtender.esp

⢠ 64 LoversStopCombatEx.esp

⢠ 65 LoversSpermSplashEx.esp

⢠ 66 CLS-Craftybits.esp

⢠ 67 CB-X-Skills Removal.esp

⢠ 68 WeightLifter.esp

⢠ 69 ArcaneArchery.esp

⢠ 6A EnchantmentRestore.esp

⢠ 6B CTAddPose_ryk0.esp

⢠ 6C Chain it!.esp

⢠ 6D NaRae Pose - 01.esp

⢠ 6E NaRae Pose - 01 Guide Book.esp

⢠ 6F VipCxj_HairEyeSet.esp

⢠ 70 LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp

⢠ 71 LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp

⢠ 72 Synx.esp

⢠ 73 SSS.esp

⢠ 74 aion_heranasweapon.esp

⢠ 75 VipCxj_AirSystem.esp

⢠ 76 BrachialsSchmiede.esp

⢠ 77 Sylshammer.esp

⢠ 78 Ryk_TDRod.esp

⢠ 79 MLclothes.esp

⢠ 7A BlackLolita.esp

⢠ 7B GloriousMageDress.esp

⢠ 7C TETE Veleritte.esp

⢠ 7D TETE Rijetta.esp

⢠ 7E Ryk_Angelika.esp

⢠ 7F 017 MPW World Strangers.esp

⢠ 80 KDWitchesFrock.esp

⢠ 81 Requiem for Hate.esp

⢠ 82 Crimson Eyecandy Black.esp

⢠ 83 Dalls_Jyggylag.esp

⢠ 84 Glypha_Naegling.esp

⢠ 85 RinzeiCrystalStaff.esp

⢠ 86 VA_SnagaAxe.esp

⢠ 87 HentaiMOEdress.esp

⢠ 88 Golden Perch Inn.esp

⢠ 89 LoversMB2.esp

⢠ 8A Hentai_Juliet_Uniform.esp

⢠ 8B Dollparts' Wild Flower Corsets of Cyrodiil.esp

⢠ 8C ROADCourtesan.esp

⢠ 8D TentaclePlant.esp

⢠ 8E LoadingScreens.esp

⢠ 8F AmbientTownSounds.esp

⢠ 90 JOJOeffect.esp

⢠ 91 StandingJOJO.esp

⢠ 92 EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp

⢠ 93 1AzuSeraphimSet.esp

⢠ 94 AAbuiesdaqun.esp

⢠ 95 Acolyte_Of_Kynareth_HGEC.esp

⢠ 96 Blue and White.esp

⢠ 97 Captain_Molly_HGEC.esp

⢠ 98 Elwing.esp

⢠ 99 EY_Vampirehunter.esp

⢠ 9A GizmodianNetherweaveRobe.esp

⢠ 9B Hentai_CerenityArmor.esp

⢠ 9C HentaiDarkLilith.esp

⢠ 9D Hentai DarkSisterhoodArmor.esp

⢠ 9E HENTAI_EVE.esp

⢠ 9F HentaiEveriaArmor.esp

⢠ A0 Hentai_HentaiUniform.esp

⢠ A1 Hentai_LilyClothes.esp

⢠ A2 HentaiSeraphimArmour.esp

⢠ A3 HentaiSummerFesta.esp

⢠ A4 Hentai_SnowFlower.esp

⢠ A5 IvyArmor_Full.esp

⢠ A6 JG Elven.esp

⢠ A7 LKF_EY_Vampirehunter.esp

⢠ A8 MHSNKirin.esp

⢠ A9 Peasant_Gowns_HGEC.esp

⢠ AA Queensarmory.esp

⢠ AB RavenWearClothing.esp [Version 1.5]

⢠ AC Rogue Sun's Blood Lust Dress.esp

⢠ AD Ryk_SimpleDress.esp

⢠ AE Sister_of_Eisen_HGEC.esp

⢠ AF sweetclothes.esp

⢠ B0 Tyrael Armor.esp

⢠ B1 Vampiria.esp

⢠ B2 Elegance_HGEC.esp

⢠ B3 Blackmarsh_Witch_HGEC.esp

⢠ B4 300_Brocade_Outfits.esp

⢠ B5 DarkRoseSet.esp

⢠ B6 Morrowind Robes and Dresses for HGEC.esp

⢠ B7 R18PN - Eisen Platte Armor.esp

⢠ B8 R18PN - Fiona Armor.esp

⢠ B9 R18PN - Heilige Mutter Armor.esp

⢠ BA HGEC Rogue Mage & Scoundrel.esp

⢠ BB Hentai_AthenaArmour.esp

⢠ BC Francesco's Optional House Chest Loot.esp

⢠ BD Fransfemale.esp

⢠ BE EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4MMM.esp

⢠ BF AranMathi.esp

⢠ C0 HentaiLovelyHouse.esp

⢠ C1 GreenGables.esp

⢠ C2 SenTineL's Legendary Weapons And Armors.esp

⢠ C3 Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp

⢠ C4 HentaiMania2.esp

⢠ C5 EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp

⢠ C6 Borderless_Cyrodiil-3578.esp

⢠ C7 Quest Award Leveling.esp

⢠ C8 MidasSpells.esp

⢠ C9 CTAddPose_osr1.esp

⢠ CA CTAddPose_osr2.esp

⢠ CB CTAddPose_osr3.esp

⢠ CC CTAddPose_Le01.esp

⢠ CD CTAddPose_Le02.esp

⢠ CE CTAddPose_OTpair2.esp

⢠ CF CTAddPose_Gaff_01.esp

⢠ D0 CTAddPose_Gaff_02.esp

⢠ D1 CTAddPose_glock3.esp

⢠ D2 actors_in_charge.esp

⢠ D3 ActorsInMadness.esp

⢠ D4 ActorsInEmotions.esp

⢠ D5 EFGAddPose.esp

⢠ D6 geechan_SimplePose.esp

⢠ D7 PMGSPP2.esp

⢠ D8 SexyWitchPoses.esp

⢠ D9 zzEstrus.esp

⢠ DA _Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp

⢠ DB Beautiful People.esp

⢠ DC RRElphintos.esp

⢠ DD R18PN - Der tod Armor.esp

⢠ DE Lilys_Rapier.esp

⢠ DF Hentai_TerraMane.esp

⢠ E0 Hentai_ClymoreArmour.esp

⢠ E1 Hentai_CaskerArmor.esp

⢠ E2 HentaiNewSweetClothes.esp

⢠ E3 Hentai_Kureha.esp

⢠ E4 HentaiLiLiCostume.esp

⢠ E5 HentaiCelestialArmor.esp

⢠ E6 DesuChan's Store.esp

⢠ E7 CB Classy Dress.esp

⢠ E8 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.2.0]

⢠ E9 Beautiful PeopleV22 - MaleReplacerV4.esp

⢠ EA Francesco's 10 days respawn time - 1-20 day lenght rescale.esp

⢠ EB QQuix - Divine Elegance Showroom.esp

⢠ EC Deadly Reflex 6 - Timed Block with no damage or durability changes.esp

⢠ ED Dalls_Merchant.esp

⢠ EE Retma Dresses.esp

⢠ EF Artifacts.esp

⢠ F0 Mart's Monster Mod for Fran.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

⢠ F1 Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

⢠ F2 Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

⢠ F3 Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

⢠ F4 Mart's Monster Mod - Fran's leveled quests.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

⢠ F5 Romuska Fantasy Store.esp

⢠ F6 Dollparts_RoseCorsets - Dark & Light.esp

⢠ F7 DeadlyReflex 6 - Combat Moves.esp

⢠ F8 1em_Vilja.esp [Version 3.1]

⢠ F9 1em_Vilja_as_Custom_by_4GVN.esp

⢠ FA Imperial Furniture Renovated.esp

⢠ FB Wolven Anthros.esp

⢠ FC UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp [Version 1.0.0]

⢠ FD Tona's_ModsStore.esp

could it be that ive reached the maximum ammount of mods used at one time, also what would merging mods with the patch actually do(ive not done it yet(nor put the bashed patch in my data folder)

[Guest Donkey]

I would certainly think so.

  00 BreakUndies.esm

⢠ Delinquent Master: Oblivion.esm

please tell this is not true ?? Did you place other mods above oblivion.esm ???

No wonder your game would crash. Oblivion.esm must always load first.

Every mod who has dependency for oblivion.esm and placed before it would crash your game instantly.

[monoto7]

blame BOSS it gave me that load order, and i didnt know that thanks