Skyrim Modding Guide

[Weyban]

WAFR and C&R and Crafting Overhaul are so essential, man. I did not know about Cutting Room Floor though, and I want it now I'm still in the process of testing out mods, I realized you can just keep making bashed patches if you start new games xD Do you guys have JewelCraft and Bandoliers, by the way?

 

Something weird:

Did you guys ever had this super odd bug that pressing the "Activate" Key (Default E I think) in a Crafting Menu exits you out of the crafting station? It's not Messagebox Controls, it also isn't SkyUI (went to 4.1 and it still does that). Maybe I should throw you guys the mod list, but it isn't such a big issue, just curious if anyone else had this before. Super odd bug!

[Sacremas]

No idea about the activate. Post a mod list and I'll try to spot whatever it can be, and maybe give advice about the rest of it.

 

I have Jewelcraft and have enabled it in Complete Crafting (still need the ESP) to distribute in lists and use it in the mod, and I have both Bandoliers mods (normal and dawnguard) without the ESPs enabled.

[Sacremas]

I have to restate that you guys should get this mod if you use any UNP based bodies (it won't look that different) and endorse the mod so more people find, it's just incredibly good work, a VAST amount of armors and clothes from other mods pulled together and used to replace vanilla stuff. Check out my elf girl in Thalmor outfit for one;

 

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/425941828273159981/7C5A7B0D5A3D5278C6B0639834E7BB9C387B90A1/

 

There's a massive amount of variant clothes and outfits, Radiant Rainment outfit that you impress Elisif with genuiely looks good, etc. So head over here and get this guy some recognition!

 

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/47477/?

[Killing Joke]

Yep that's what I use too, along with a sevenbase conversion of ChronoTrigger77's vanilla remodeled armors, and sometimes also FastestDogInTheDistrict's conversion when I want something more "lore-friendly". The only problem I get with Pfiffy's conversion is that some textures become black under certain lighting conditions, but nothing really bad and that shouldn't prevent people from using it.

[Old Book]

I've been having some serious frame rate drops, and am unsure why. Right now I'm running Optimizer Textures in case its the new outfits I've installed, and I'll try using the older XPMS Skeleton in case it has something to do with XPMSE 3.13, but really I'm stumped. The last time I saw something like this, I'd enabled HDT physics on NPCs, but I haven't installed anything recently that should have done that. 

 

On the other hand, thanks again for convincing me to use a Merged patch and get rid of a long list of mods. Until these frame rate drops, I'd never had this stable a game. I managed to run all the way from Dawnstar to Whiterun without a single crash, despite multiple battles. That never used to be possible. 

[Sacremas]

Lol, these days if I crash twice in a 12 hour day of playing with a maximum load order, I consider it a broken game and start looking into Papyrus to fix things and pull out scripts.

 

Here's my current Pervert playthrough mod list, got 100 % stability here, can play all day.

 

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Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp
Dawnguard.esm
Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp
HearthFires.esm
Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp
Dragonborn.esm
Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp
ApachiiHairMales.esm
ApachiiHairFemales.esm
ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
SGHairPackBase.esm
ApachiiHair.esm
Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
TERAArmors.esm
HmmWhatToWear.esm
HmmWhatToWearDawnGuard.esm
CreatureFramework.esm
SexLab.esm
ZaZAnimationPack.esm
SexLabAroused.esm
MiasLair.esp
Devious Devices - Assets.esm
Devious Devices - Integration.esm
Inn Girls Resources.esm
daymoyl.esm
UndergroundBathhouse.esm
RSkyrimChildren.esm
hdtHighHeel.esm
Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
TradeBarter.esp
Disparity.esp
Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp
Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp
Cutting Room Floor.esp
EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
Tamriel Reloaded HD.esp
Castle Volkihar Rebuilt.esp
CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp
JKs Skyrim.esp
EnhancedWetnessandPuddles.esp
3DNPC.esp
SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp
RealisticWaterTwo.esp
Wintermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp
Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp
Improved Artifacts - Complete Collection.esp
PfiffysArmorAddon.esp
Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
SexLab_Dialogues.esp
aMidianBorn_ContentAddon.esp
sanguinesDebauchery.esp
SGHairPackAIO.esp
KS Hairdo's.esp
SkyUI.esp
UKCUtilities.esp
immersive wenches.esp
FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp
WarmongerArmory_Vanilla.esp
WarmongerArmory_DLC.esp
SexLab_Solutions.esp
AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
Rebirth Monster.esp
Combat Evolved.esp
HarvestOverhaul.esp
Thunderchild - Epic Shout Package.esp
Complete Crafting_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp
CWIELnFXPatch.esp
Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp
Immersive Weapons.esp
WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp
Lore Weapon Expansion.esp
WarmongerArmory_LeveledList.esp
SexLabNudeCreatures.esp
SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp
SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp
Captured Dreams.esp
HentaiCreatures.esp
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
hydra_slavegirls.esp
LocalizedGuildJobs.esp
Inconsequential NPCs.esp
SexLabSkoomaWhore.esp
Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp
BellyachesNewDragonSpecies_TougherDragons.esp
Cloaks.esp
PrvtI_HeavyArmory.esp
1nivWICCloaks.esp
Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp
TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
Fh hairs-by zzjay.esp
Brows.esp
VioLens.esp
BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp
LovelyHairstylesCE.esp
Chesko_WearableLantern.esp
Extended UI.esp
Cazy Hairs-by zzjay.esp
CoT-WeatherPatch_Snow-40.esp
Differently Ebony.esp
SGEyebrows.esp
No More Glowing Edges.esp
ExpandedSnowSystems-CoT.esp
RaceMenu.esp
FISS.esp
HonedMetal.esp
LostGrimoire.esp
NB-Scars.esp
AchieveThat.esp
RaceMenuPluginXPMSE.esp
getSnowy.esp
Rayg_AshstormNoSnow.esp
SOSRaceMenu.esp
3dnpcbabes.esp
SOS - Leito Addon.esp
SOS - B3lisario UNP Addon.esp
Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp
RV markers.esp
TKcombat.esp
12FemaleBrows.esp
DeadlyDragons.esp
Deadly Wenches.esp
SPTDiverseGuardsSkyrim.esp
Radiant and Unique Potions Poisons and BOOZE.esp
Thane Weapons Improved - Hearthfire Patch.esp
DragonFire.esp
DragonFire-Dragonborn.esp
Thunderchild - Dragon Language Words Patch.esp
Deadly Wenches -Tera Armors Random-.esp
OMageReplacerPack.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp
Skysan_ELFX_SMIM_Fix.esp
SMIM Merged.esp
WeddingDay.esp
More Interesting Loot for Skyrim.esp
aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Reduced.esp
iHUD.esp
Animal Tweaks.esp
aedric ritual remake.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp
RUSTIC SOULGEMS - Unsorted.esp
kuzak-bodyandstockings.esp
Faction Crossbows.esp
P1FlyingRing.esp
mslVampiricThirst.esp
BloodthirstVampireFeeding.esp
Predator Vision.esp
DVA - Dynamic Vampire Appearance.esp
UNO - Dragonborn.esp
Aurlyn.esp
DA_Skyship.esp
BesEss.esp
Aurora - Standing Stones of Skyrim.esp
Devious Cidhna.esp
ssapbwk.esp
CWIDawnDragonPatch.esp
SpousesEnhanced.esp
BatTravel.esp
Magic of the Magna-Ge.esp
Immersive Music Temples.esp
Dragon Soul Relinquishment.esp
Dwemertech - Magic of the Dwarves.esp
Immersive Music.esp
Vampirelordroyal.esp
BlackSacramentArmor.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Dawnguard.esp
Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp
Apocalypse - More Apocalypse.esp
LustmordVampireArmor.esp
StormWrathLightning.esp
Reduced Distance NPC Greetings.esp
CCO_SIC_Patch.esp
JewelCraft.esp
SexLab Eager NPCs.esp
SuccubusHeart.esp
LegacyoftheDragonborn.esp
HarvestOverhaulCreatures.esp
Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
TERA Weapons.esp
Deadly Wenches -Tera Weapons-.esp
DBM_CCOR_patch.esp
DBM_DASkyship_Addon.esp
DBM_IWIA_Patch.esp
DBM_MoreInterestingLoot_Patch.esp
DBM_WAFR Patch.esp
RSChildren_CompleteUSKP.esp
Cute Babette.esp
GQJ_DG_vampireamuletfix.esp
DeadlyMutilation.esp
TrueDeathBasic.esp
DragonBornCircletsWithCrown.esp
Necrosarium.esp
Simple Magic Rebalance.esp
Dragon Priest Masks Refined.esp
calyps-dragonpriestmasks.esp
Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp
VT & RB patch.esp
Royal Bloodline - Conjure Storm.esp
EstrusChaurus.esp
Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp
AcquisitiveSoulGemMultithreaded.esp
Inconsequential NPCs - Enhancement.esp
Inconsequential NPCs - CRF Compatibility Patch.esp
InconsequentialBabes.esp
TrueNecromancerAmulet.esp
FNISSexyMove.esp
ImmersiveSpells.esp
DeadlySpellImpacts.esp
_tck_SpellCrafting.esp
Sac Sevenbase Armor Mergers.esp
HN66mage4vanilla.esp
HDT Piercingsets.esp
Spellblade.esp
MF_RadiantProstitution.esp
BladeEffects.esp
CombatDramaOverhaul.esp
Dragon Combat Overhaul.esp
SmartCast_1_0.esp
SexLab Cumshot.esp
dc-untamed-000.esp
MoreNastyCritters.esp
NonSexLabAnimationPack.esp
NusbieVoices.esp
SexLabSquirtR.esp
RewardYourFollowers.esp
SSLToys.esp
SexLabDangerousNights.esp
adcSexlife.esp
BDIC.esp
Devious Deviants.esp
MiningforMages.esp
K2 Naked Mage.esp
Patch - Interesting NPCs - RS kids.esp
Patch - Inconsequential NPCs - RS kids.esp
ZAZDeviousBindings - CD Edition.esp
SimpleMagicOverhaul.esp
sextoys-calyps-2.esp
WhirlWind.esp
DarkFallingGrave.esp
Destruction.esp
MaximumDrive.esp
xazPrisonOverhaul.esp
UNO - Dawnguard FIXED.esp
Seductress Serana.esp
UNO - NPC Overhaul.esp
Amorous Appearances.esp
Bijin Wives.esp
Bijin Warmaidens.esp
Toccata as Elisif.esp
WintermystPatcher.esp
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
TES5Merged.esp
Bashed Patch, 0.esp
ASIS-Dependency.esp
ASIS.esp

 

Again ask if you wonder about something, it'll be a lot easier than posting my asset load order. Here's a few you might not recognize;

 

Necrosarium.esp - http://www.loverslab.com/files/file/729-shockys-workshop-sevenbase-and-other-stuff/

calyps-dragonpriestmasks.esp; http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/17707/?(note you need to manually TES5Edit them to circlets or they take slot 52, the Schlong spot)

ssapbwk.esp - Skyrim Spells and Powers by WarrriorKeKe; http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/19270/?

BesEss.esp - Bestial Essences, a mod no longer available on LL when the mod author vanished and deleted his/her mod all of a sudden.

AmorousApperances; the name of my NPCVIsual Transfer mod for fixing up Gerdur, Sybille and Aurlyn.

 

Rest should be findable by googling it.

[trpd]

Why does armor replacers need ESPs? Can't they just replace meshes/textures like we do for body ?

I like some armors in that pack and others i don't , wish i could mix it with LSAR (also don't like all armors in it)

Btw wonder if he got all those permissions or they didn't found out yet.

[Sacremas]

It needs the ESP when it adds new armors, and that pack adds about three times as many armors and clothes as there are in base Skyrim.

 

Turns out this was the pack uglykidcid took most of his stuff from for his packs including his LSAR and coverted to UNPB.

[Old Book]

Looking at my saves in WryeBash, I went from 11 meg at the very start of this game to 17 meg after 53 hours of play. I remember reading that anything over 15 meg was an unhealthy save. So, after the texture optimizer is done, it's Save Game Cleaner time. 

The texture optimizer claims to have freed up more than 2gb so far going through my mods, so I'm hoping that will help somewhat with frame rate. 

On a more positive note, I've been using the VTNPC tool to change the more boring looking Underground Bathhouse girls into characters from great-looking-but-no-dialog follower mods. It really makes the place great fun to wander around in, even if I have to jump through hoops to come up with any kind of story about why my character is welcomed there.  

In a really immersive play through I should probably drop the bath house entirely. Legacy of the Dragonborn's Safe House is all the storage my character could ever need, and there are home mods with great stories available. On the other hand, the Bathhouse teleport system is such an amazing convenience, as is being able to send companions easily to a single location after their quests are over. 

[I hate creating usernames]

BesEss.esp - Bestial Essences, a mod no longer available on LL when the mod author vanished and deleted his/her mod all of a sudden.

 

Actually it's been back for a month here's the link for anyone who is interested http://www.loverslab.com/topic/50086-bestial-essence-2015-07-22/

[trpd]

Ehm ... replacers shouldm't just replace? What armors it adds? I just did try it withour esp and armors were replaced. So what does the esp add?

 

I do see similiarities . But LSAR doesn't work without esp, the armors and stuff are not in normal folders. 

 

But maybe i can me it work...  the plan is to use UKC LSAR and replace "too loose" clothes and few armors with meshes from Piffys...

[Sacremas]

Looking at my saves in WryeBash, I went from 11 meg at the very start of this game to 17 meg after 53 hours of play. I remember reading that anything over 15 meg was an unhealthy save. So, after the texture optimizer is done, it's Save Game Cleaner time.

 

Uhm. Yeah. I think that's one of those things you read somewhere where someone had no idea what they were talking about, and then you found this thread.

 

My current character on level 5 has her latest save at 14.5 MB. My level 84 character tha'ts explored most of skyrim and done most vanilla quests's latest save is 29.89 MB, in a perfectly stable save that has no issues at all. I'm sorry man but you're basing things of the wrong end, your saves will ALWAYS bloat.

 

These things bloat;

Changing the world at all, that means changing quest conditions, changing locations that do not respawn, wiping out groups that do not respawn. Making Lovers, changing dispostions of NPCs. Hanging up an item on a mannequin or stand at the Gallery. Dropping a iron arrow on the road between Riften and SOlitude that for some reason never gets unloaded. Building a house, changing a house, sending NPCs to join the blades, learning a spell, learning a shout, getting X0.000 seduction points in Succubus Heart, picking a perk, upgrading your skill, changing your character's nose...

 

You're getting me by now? All of these things can't be saved in any external files except your save game, so over time it will bloat. Whoever said 14 MB is a bloated game is running a completely unmodded game, and even then at level 80+ your save has probably bloated beyond that with just the official DLCs.

Ehm ... replacers shouldm't just replace? What armors it adds? I just did try it withour esp and armors were replaced. So what does the esp add?

 

I do see similiarities . But LSAR doesn't work without esp, the armors and stuff are not in normal folders. 

 

But maybe i can me it work...  the plan is to use UKC LSAR and replace "too loose" clothes and few armors with meshes from Piffys...

 

 

Open the ESP in TES5Edit and just marvel at it. You'll see armors and clothes from probably hundreds of mods being used, there are about as much content in that overall as there are in UKC's Armor/Weapons merger RavenUKC.esm.

[trpd]

Ok i did, there are many alternative armors there (even books lol!). So how do those enter world? Like if i want alternative version of falmer or archmage to be used in game?  Can i pick one ? or they get randomized? the mod page tells nothing about the added armors

[Sacremas]

A LOT of it is added to level lists, but unique armors like variant archmage is either placed in the game manually (I just did Lost to the Ages and Katria had a unique steel armor and boots with her name on her body, her ghost got very angry when I stole it, didn't care about my necrophilia though ), or craftable either at the forge or more often at the tanning rack. A lot of those variant armros including archmage, variant ancient shrouded armors, etc can be crafted at the tanning rack. Try to resist the urge of doing so until after you have the actual Archmage Robes or Ancient Shrouded armor unless it's to test. A lot of stuff has also been made playable and craftable that wasn't before, like Sheogorath's clothes, Tsun's armor, (both with a very nice female mesh) etc.

[Sacremas]

Okay so this is something annoying. All of a sudden out of the blue Wrye Bash no longer works for me. Running it from MO or running it from the Mopy folder both leads to an infinite loading cycle and freeze, with the Wrye Bash image never vanishing. And it was fine a few hours ago. Already tried restarting my computer as well.

 

GAH!

 

EDIT: Okay, it turned out to be about a 5 minute delay on starting up instead. And I notice Win10 has updated today. Hrm.

[trpd]

Beta testing ? By order of thigns win 10 should be good but i will stick to 7 till i don't see "Requires win 8/10"

 

On my end i try to move couple armors from LSAR to Piffys and they miss parts. Strange because the nifs got them so i have no clue what is going on...

[Sacremas]

LSAR injects it's armors via a SKSE script uglykidcid couldn't figure out, he couldn't figure out how to make it not show a certain armor either. Like when LSAR updated with dark brotherhood armor, that meant his Black Sacramanet replacer pack couldn't be used with LSAR, the dark brotherhood would be wearing LSAR still. I suggest you leave it alone.

[trpd]

Got it to work!

Armor and items in a armor use specific slots those slots in the nif must match the slots picked in the .esp if they do not then they will not show up in game. the slots being used for a item piece in the nif are located under the BSDismemberSkinInstance so just click the item then look under the highlighted line on the left for  BSDismemberSkinInstance click the arrow for the drop down then partitions and this will show all slots attached to that item then load up the CK (creation kit) find the armor and armor addon and make sure those slots match.

So i basicly modify partitions to have same entry as mesh parts that show and it works, you can "free" armor from LARS .

I do not know why some meshes are duplicated.

[Old Book]

FIXED: I'm still getting a massive frame rate drop in the Underground Bathhouse, and pretty much in any crowded location. I've tried uninstalling all of the mods I've added in the last day or two, going back to an older skeleton, re-building my bashed, asis, and fnis patches, and running the texture optimizer. No luck. A game that was running smooth and fast in this location just a couple of days ago is now unplayable. What trouble shooting steps am I missing?

ANSWER: Tracked down the problem.
Standalone Follower Neisa has a unique body shape, with her own scripts to control it. I had used the Visual NPC Transfer Tool to give her appearance to one of the NPCs in the Underground Bathhouse. Even after disabling the mod, there was still a nif in the VNPC Data folder. Deleted the Nif, and my frame rate shot right back up. 

I'm not sure why that was causing a frame rate drop, but getting rid of it got rid of the problem.

 

I'll still be using the VNPC tool, as it's an incredible thing, but it's useful to keep track of exactly what you're transfering. 

[Weyban]

Oi! Been gone for a bit, sorry about that ^^ So I guess I'll throw you guys my mod list, maybe ye can help me figure out how to optimize it in terms of mod placement etc. Maybe that'll also fix my auto-exiting crafting menu problem. I think "-" means its not installed!

 

(Sorry for being a nuisance, it seems lots of guys have issues right now, I've got a pretty stable game right now so if any of you don't wanna deal with my shit, don't worry I won't be mad ^^)

 

# This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.

+FNIS Output

+Bashed Patch Default

-DSR Patch

-I Love Cleavage CBBE HDT

-Don't Show Headgears

+HDT Logs

+CharGen Presets

+SafetyLoad Output

+Better Dialogue Controls

+Better MessageBox Controls

+Alternate Start - Live Another Life

+Vampire Face Less Sunken Cheeks

+When Vampires Attack

+Royal Bloodline

+Better Vampires 7.0

+AmazingFollowerTweaks

+Localized Thieves Guild Jobs

+RealVision ENB 279b

+ELFX SMIM Meshes

+ELFX 2.0 BFU Compatibility Patch-11158-2-0

+Enhanced Lights and FX

+Climates of Tamriel - Weather Patch

+True Storms - Thunder and Rain Redone v1.5

+Supreme Storms

+Wonders of Weather

+Project Reality - Climates Of Tamriel-V3

+LustDesign - Female Daedric Armor Replacer - CBBEv3_UNP

+Fantasy Soundtrack Project

+Bloodmoon Rising - Moonlight Tales Werewolf and Werebear Expansion Pack

+Paradox Werewolf Changes

+The Wheels of Lull

+KS Hairdos Renewal

+Gildergreen Regrown

+hdtHighHeels Extension

-Dual Sheath Redux

+Enchanting Freedom

+Bijin Warmaidens

-Deadly Wenches

+Immersive Wenches

+KJ Tattoos - Overlay Plugins for RaceMenu

+Flying Mod Beta

+Animated Dragon Wings

+Elemental Arrows

+INIGO

+The Lost Wonders of Mzark

+TERA Armor Collection - CBBE - standalone

+Midnight Breed Armor - CBBE UNP 7B - Modular with 5 Colors

+zzjay and Grace Darklings Hoods with hairs

+R18Pn 08 - Lingerie Set for CBBE or 7BSeveNBase UNP

+Thunderchild - Epic Shout Package Patch

+Immersive College of Winterhold

+zzjay's wardrobe

+Sharlikrans Compatibility Patches

+Quel'Delar

+LustDesign - Sovngarde Steel Armor v2 - CBBE_UNP_CHSBHC_ADEC

+Dark Disciple

+HDT Bosmer Priestess Armor

+Lace underwear

+chainmail bikini thong version

+Emfy Cleric Robes - CBBE

+Cassandra Frost Witch Outfit

+Gwelda Dawnguard Armor UNP - CBBE

+Celes Nightingale Armor UUNP - CBBE

+C. Tembtra Thief Armor 2K CBBE HDT-59451-1-02

+Sotteta Huntress Armor UNP

+C. Sotteta Necromancer 2k - CBBE HDT-59202-1-5

+Daedric Chainmail Refined CBBE TBBP HDT

+Cuteunit 2h Dawnbreaker

+The Huntsman

+Dawnguard Dawnbreaker

+C r a i n t e V o m i r

+Run For Your Lives

+Seranaholic

+Undeath

+Moon and Star

+Predator Vision

+Helgen Reborn

+Wintermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim

+Thunderchild - Epic Shout Package

+Spells of Spectraverse

+SkyRe Artifacts (for use with PerMa)

+Forgotten Magic Redone v1-6

+More Apocalypse

+Apocalypse - The Spell Package

+Aurora - Standing Stones of Skyrim

+Imperious - Races of Skyrim

+Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim

+Audio Overhaul for Skyrim 2

+Wet and Cold

+Deadly Dragons

+Convenient Horses

+Harvest Overhaul

-Skyrim Immersive Creatures

+Guard Dialogue Overhaul

+Follower Commentary Overhaul

+Companion Vilja

+Breezehome Fully Upgradable Dawnguard and Hearthfires

+Interesting NPCs

+Inconsequential NPCs 1 dot 9e

+Summerset Isle - Patches

+Summerset Isle

+Wyrmstooth

+Falskaar

+Pretty Sit Idle v1.41c

+Pretty Female Idles

+Belt-Fastened Quivers 1 2 Release

+VHH walk v1-3b LX - NMM installer

+New Animation pack - NMM Installer - v2013-1

-360 Walk and Run Plus

+RaceMenu Loose Base Scripts

+-STANDALONE- High Res Battle Hardened Warpaints Sets 1-4

+RaceMenu

+The Coenaculi for CBBE

+SG Female Eyebrows

+The Eyes Of Beauty

+FNIS Behavior V5 5 -- ALWAYS necessary

-SG Female Textures Renewal

+Brows

+Better Females By Bella Natural Edition

-coverwomen look

+Basvanbeu MuscleTextureChanger female only LITE with NavetseaSkinset for CBBE or UNP set

+Calientes Beautiful Bodies Edition -CBBE-

+XCE

-Immersive Animations

+XPMS 1.94 NMM-BAIN INSTALLER-26800-1-94

+Realistic Force

+BHC Reborn

+JK's Skyrim

+Realistic Smoke and Embers

+Realistic Water Two

+Pure Waters Rocks

+RUGNAROK

+Skyrim HD

+Static Mesh Improvement Mod

+Complete Crafting Overhaul

+Ruins Clutter Improved

+Clothing and Clutter Fixes

+Weapons and Armor Fixes Remade

+Immersive Weapons

+Immersive Armors

+Cloaks of Skyrim 1-2

+High Definition Ivy

+Vivid Landscapes - Rocking Stones and Mountains Parallax

+Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin

+Skyrim Flora Overhaul

+Glowing Ore Veins 300

+Book Covers Skyrim - Lost Library - ORIGINAL

+Book Covers Skyrim 3 3 LEGENDARY - Original

+NEW HD textures for INTERFACE and sounds

+HDT Physics Extensions

+Helmet Toggle

+Save Hot Key

+VioLens - A Killmove Mod

+Skyrim -Community- Uncapper

+Lore-Based Loading Screens 1 1 Release

+Time on loading screen

+Lockpick Pro

+A Matter of Time

+Extended UI

+MoreHUD

+Immersive HUD - iHUD

+OneTweak

+Stable uGridsToLoad

+aMidianBorn Book of Silence

-SkyUI 4.1

+SkyUI

+A Quality World Map and Solstheim Map - With Roads

+Acquisitive Soul Gems - Dawnguard

+Unofficial High Resolution Patch

+Unofficial Dragonborn Patch

*Unmanaged: Dragonborn

+Unofficial Hearthfire Patch

*Unmanaged: HearthFires

+Unofficial Dawnguard Patch

*Unmanaged: Dawnguard

+Unofficial Skyrim Patch

*Unmanaged: HighResTexturePack01

*Unmanaged: HighResTexturePack02

*Unmanaged: HighResTexturePack03

 

[Sacremas]

If you want a large framerate boost, get rid of the offical high res packs, all landscape mods like verdant and tree mods and such, and just get Tamriel Reloaded HD, you will see a very large performance gain and about a hundred times better and mroe realistic graphics.

 

Wonders of Weather is somethign you need to be very careful with, try to wait until you get rain and then run around in whiterun, start a ffight, something like that, keep Papyrus enabled, check it after. Then probably get rid of the mod permaenntly if your experience will be like that of a lot of others, myself and uglykidcid with them.

 

Try to get rid of OneTweak and see if you get any changes. I'm somewhat nervous with it, it caused all sorts of issues when I tried it, but it was quite a bit ago. If you are not playing in windowed mode, then get rid of it for sure.

[Weyban]

Oh I don't have any framerate issues, I think that was someone else here who struggled with that.
I'll probably get rid of Wonders of Weather, after all I didn't notice much of a difference with it on.
The OneTweak is kind of a necessity for me because I usually also do other stuff when playing Skyrim, but I must say I have heard a lot of people who have problems with OneTweak, and I bet some of my earlier crashes are also related to OneTweak. Maybe I should get rid of it and look for alternatives.

Thanks Sacremas!

[trpd]

Oo MO was just going emo on me telling me to move WARF before UKC utilities and CCO remade after UKC utils - on the mod list (left panel) . The best part is they do not have any overwrting files between each other...

 

I use OneTweak , kinda must for myself too , expecially when you can modify some stuff on fly . WIth ENB you can set force windowed but double cursor appears then

But its jsut SKSE plugin so you can enable/disable it anytime. So if you have crashes you can try disabling and see if it helps.

 

EDIT:

You think i could merge those patches? I'm thinking about DBM, WARf and CCO would be 6 esps

[Sacremas]

You don't need the Solutions patch, it's rather pitiful. First update your Solutions, latest incorporates all the changes of the LAL patch (or rather all the changes of LAL). Prison Overhaul patch's only change is the dialogue of the Riften guard outside the prison. You can have sex with him to get inside with Soltuions, Prison Overhaul has a different thing with him, either way you can still use all of prison overhaul in riften just fine, it's just that guy and getting past him (to see Sibbi, and Inigo) that matters. If you don't care about a single conversation, leave it out.

 

For the others I suggest you make a merged patch, instead of merging the patches into their parent mods you make a merged patch for all of them, putting all the (non-Unofficial) patches into a single patch you put near the end of your load order.

[trpd]

From my limited experience i saw that solutions are kinda meh but they act as brawl replacer so i don't need to worry about the notorious brawl bug. If i understand you right if i don't care about that riften guard dialogue i can leave patch out and it won't break prison overhault - ok.

 

Merged patch - making merged patch doesn't let me disabled the esps, does it? (i know i need merged patch just not ready for it yet). I wasn't thinking about merging patches into parent mods but rather merging patches together. DBM and +WARF-IW+CCO-SIC . Hopefully they don't interact with each other so merge script wouldn't have problem.

 

@Save bloat - janitor save is 10 mb already XD while i have some high lv vanilla (ooold save) that is 11mb

 

 

EDIT:  Do i need to clean ITM before merged patch ? Loot reports CCO,SiC, LOD overhaul and darkerdungeons to contain them.

Just how much of problem or rather "likelihood of braking save" when you add /update mod to your list and remake merged patch?

Guide says to disable other patchers before doing merge patch - FNIS is also mentioned but doesn't make sense to me as FNIS got no esp...