Adult mod shame?

[JMKAM]

Just remember we're all fapping to it with you. 

You are not alone.

[passdummy1]

You feeling ashamed is an interesting notion. Since you obviously *desired* whatever you downloaded before leading to the conclusion that it's what you like, correct? Sexual tastes, just like tastes in food, vary largely from person to person. You're not ashamed of your tastes in food (I hope) so there's absolutely NO reason to be ashamed of your sexual preferences either.

Neither are they anyone's business but your own even if people just love to get judgemental on them.

 

Where does the shame come from then? If it is because it feels *morally* wrong, please, for the love of god, see this as some kind of wake-up call. Morals are bullshit. They're concepts of right and wrong that people who refuse to think for themselves adopt from others and accept them. What's right and what's wrong is something you have to decide for yourself. Nobody should be able to influence your perception of them. If you're a sociopathic murder turbo-rapist deep down then fine, so be it, as long as you're able to control yourself and exercise self-restraint in order to not hurt anyone.

And that in turn would be something you should be *proud* of instead of ashamed.

 

The main point, as others have so adequately stated before me, is that it's all fictional we're doing here No harm done, all is well. It's not real, so everything goes. It's merely a case of "living a fantasy" and you should not be ashamed. If you can't get over it all, simply chalk it up to exploring your own fantasies and move on, I'd say.

[w33beast1e]

[Averagezombie]

The interesting part of what's been presented is the idea that fantasy removes the need to understand why a choice is made. I'll actually recommend the opposite of what everyone is saying. If you want to understand why you are having a response to the content, look at what the content is and observe both the content and your own reaction to it. Look at what you're reacting to and think about why you are reacting a given way. The idea that morality should be disregarded is terrible idea because you can't really examine something as helpful or harmful without a true understanding of what good and evil is. Honestly, this is a big question. Whether you give into wants or have the mental fortitude to over come them is up to you and irrelevant to what I'm saying. All I ask is that you truly examine your actions and come to a conclusion instead of justifying your actions.

[pinky6225]

The interesting part of what's been presented is the idea that fantasy removes the need to understand why a choice is made. I'll actually recommend the opposite of what everyone is saying. If you want to understand why you are having a response to the content, look at what the content is and observe both the content and your own reaction to it. Look at what you're reacting to and think about why you are reacting a given way. The idea that morality should be disregarded is terrible idea because you can't really examine something as helpful or harmful without a true understanding of what good and evil is. Honestly, this is a big question. Whether you give into wants or have the mental fortitude to over come them is up to you and irrelevant to what I'm saying. All I ask is that you truly examine your actions and come to a conclusion instead of justifying your actions.

 

I don't think we need to do deep soul searching since the majority of people have fantasys that they dont necessarily want to come true which is why dreams coming true and having to deal with the consequences (aka god hood) is such a popular theme in fiction and we have sayings such as be careful what you wish for

 

I'd be more worried if your flights of fantasy are close to reality since that implies a terrible lack of imagination and would also imply you have issues telling reality from non-reality

[Slaves of Tamriel]

Killing other people is illegal and has a much more serious moral implication than sexually exploiting them, however comparatively a few people would have any objections for playing a game or watching a movie in which murder is depicted.

 

I would never dream of hurting other people except when it's absolutely necessary in real life. But I have no problem with killing some NPCs in a game, and so do I with other less serious virtual crimes like raping them.

 

I believe most of us who visit this site are responsible adults, who never mistake what you can do in a virtual fantasy world with what can be done in a real life.

 

So, no, I don't believe you have anything to be ashamed of, when you find yourself enjoying those wonderful contents this site has to offer.

[Grizzly28]

 

[halieslade]

I'm always amused by the moralists who come here to point fingers and "tsk tsk" on a site that features animated porn ads and adult mods that feature slavery, rape, incest, and bestiality.  If you don't like that stuff, why are you here?

 

I have my own limits, but as others have said, if I don't want to include slavery or incest in my game that's my choice.  I don't see prostitution, rape or random sex, or even bestiality, as anything more than just a roleplay in a make believe digital world.  It has no effect on my reality.  Game rape and bestiality is in no way related to real world rape and bestiality.

 

The distinctly American sex-shaming that goes on has deep roots in our Puritanical heritage.  There is no equivalence between sex and morality except when harm is caused to another (real) human being.  But we're inundated with moralistic idiots here who want us to believe that God counts our sex partners and judges us on a number.

 

That's some kind of misguided Supreme Being.  Must be a slow day at the office.

 

 

 

[xXDeliteXx]

Honestly, the game is made very prudish. The fact that you couldn't be perverted on this game even if you wanted too, that's not sexual or suggestive.

It's bullshit really. 

This is where we come back in to kick the realism back in.

 

Also who could forget the nonmodded fundamentals of Daggerfall?

In-game

[The Matrix Prime]

I'm always amused by the moralists who come here to point fingers and "tsk tsk" on a site that features animated porn ads and adult mods that feature slavery, rape, incest, and bestiality.  If you don't like that stuff, why are you here?

 

I have my own limits, but as others have said, if I don't want to include slavery or incest in my game that's my choice.  I don't see prostitution, rape or random sex, or even bestiality, as anything more than just a roleplay in a make believe digital world.  It has no effect on my reality.  Game rape and bestiality is in no way related to real world rape and bestiality.

 

The distinctly American sex-shaming that goes on has deep roots in our Puritanical heritage.  There is no equivalence between sex and morality except when harm is caused to another (real) human being.  But we're inundated with moralistic idiots here who want us to believe that God counts our sex partners and judges us on a number.

 

That's some kind of misguided Supreme Being.  Must be a slow day at the office.

 

"distinctly American sex-shaming"? Only someone very isolated from history or other world cultures would try to claim that. The Puritans came from and were a Britain movement. And the Victorian England society was much MUCH more sexually repressed then any American culture. And that's just European - consider China (especially ancient China) or even the Muslim controlled countries of the Middle East today, where women in some part of that world can be stoned for showing as little as bare an ankle in public (no exaggeration).

 

Don't make the mistake in thinking that all people and all cultures in the world are just like the one you grew up in. We're all human and we all have the same basic needs and desires, but there are some cultures out there that might as well be from another planet in comparison (not saying they are worse or better, just different). The way some people/cultures view the world is completely alien to the way you (or I) do. Its a common mistake to always assume the "culture grass" is "greener" on the "other side" but that's often not the case.

 

And as for morals regarding sex, there are very good reasons for that - in REAL LIFE. In Skyrim its all just fantasy - but real life is very different and its ignorant to diss morals regarding sex just because they get in the way of your "fun". Sure. some concepts are dated or even just plain wrong - but others have a very good reason for being there. Responsibility and Balance in all thing - including responsibility and balance.

 

 

@XDeliteXx

 

I miss the old Elder Scrolls, I wished they'd kept that kind of world in the current games, but if they had, Skyrim it probably wouldn't have been the wide spread success that it is today.

[halieslade]

 

I'm always amused by the moralists who come here to point fingers and "tsk tsk" on a site that features animated porn ads and adult mods that feature slavery, rape, incest, and bestiality.  If you don't like that stuff, why are you here?

 

I have my own limits, but as others have said, if I don't want to include slavery or incest in my game that's my choice.  I don't see prostitution, rape or random sex, or even bestiality, as anything more than just a roleplay in a make believe digital world.  It has no effect on my reality.  Game rape and bestiality is in no way related to real world rape and bestiality.

 

The distinctly American sex-shaming that goes on has deep roots in our Puritanical heritage.  There is no equivalence between sex and morality except when harm is caused to another (real) human being.  But we're inundated with moralistic idiots here who want us to believe that God counts our sex partners and judges us on a number.

 

That's some kind of misguided Supreme Being.  Must be a slow day at the office.

 

"distinctly American sex-shaming"? Only someone very isolated from history or other world cultures would try to claim that. The Puritans came from and were a Britain movement. And the Victorian England society was much MUCH more sexually repressed then any American culture. And that's just European - consider China (especially ancient China) or even the Muslim controlled countries of the Middle East today, where women in some part of that world can be stoned for showing as little as bare an ankle in public (no exaggeration).

 

Don't make the mistake in thinking that all people and all cultures in the world are just like the one you grew up in. We're all human and we all have the same basic needs and desires, but there are some cultures out there that might as well be from another planet in comparison (not saying they are worse or better, just different). The way some people/cultures view the world is completely alien to the way you (or I) do. Its a common mistake to always assume the "culture grass" is "greener" on the "other side" but that's often not the case.

 

And as for morals regarding sex, there are very good reasons for that - in REAL LIFE. In Skyrim its all just fantasy - but real life is very different and its ignorant to diss morals regarding sex just because they get in the way of your "fun". Sure. some concepts are dated or even just plain wrong - but others have a very good reason for being there. Responsibility and Balance in all thing - including responsibility and balance.

 

 

@XDeliteXx

 

I miss the old Elder Scrolls, I wished they'd kept that kind of world in the current games, but if they had, Skyrim it probably wouldn't have been the wide spread success that it is today.

 

 

For someone who doesn't know me at all, you've certainly drawn some ridiculous conclusions.  I  have 2 degrees in history and I've traveled in Europe and Asia.  I still have a number of good friends in Belgium, UK, and Austria. My ancestry is Swedish (3rd generation), and VERY laid back and tolerant.  I think I know what I'm talking about.

 

But if you'd paid any attention to current events in the US, you'd know what I meant.   Europeans (Quakers, Calvinists and others) fled to America to escape religious persecution.  But the brand of religionism they developed here has been far more sexually puritanical and rigid than anything they fled in England or northern Europe - including Victorianism (which was not unique to the UK.  We had our own Victorian era).   See also the current American state movements to limit contraception and the cultural trend to slut-shame women whose moral compass doesn't point in exactly the same direction as theirs.  I know it's happening because I have family members who buy into this bullshit.

 

When a porn company can film videos of public humiliation and sexual activity on the streets of Dutch or German cities, but would be arrested on sight in the US, I think that's a good indication of the difference in sexual outlooks.  European TV ads don't shy away from nudity or innuendo like they do in the US (see the latest Carl's Burger ads here, which created a firestorm of controversy just for hinting that the model was naked.   Oh my gosh, you could see her cleavage!

 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/style-blog/wp/2015/02/01/carls-jr-debuts-sexist-super-bowl-2015-commercial/  

 

Not even Vegas has display windows for prostitutes like they do in Amsterdam.

 

I consider the overall European attitude towards sex to be much healthier and more natural than anything here in the US.  While there may be exceptions on both sides, we're talking general attitudes rather than specifics.

 

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I miss Daggerfall as well.  As buggy as it was, I still played the heck out of it.  The graphics are remarkably dated right now, but I wish someone could produce an updated version.  I remember being scared to death to leave my hotel room at night with the ghosts prowling the streets!

 

[zalox]

Alright looks like you guys don't get it.

 

He was asking if he should be ashamed, thing is it's something to be ashamed of. Because it's not normal.

 

I hate it when people just reassure some guy telling him it's ok or there's nothing wrong, if you're jerking of to a video game then yeah you should realise you're pretty perverted and it's not society's fault for not being openminded.

Btw does anyone know if there's a sex mod for Daggerfall ?

[Setekh]

ITT: Trolls trolling trolls.

[DurtyNelly]

Alright looks like you guys don't get it.

 

He was asking if he should be ashamed, thing is it's something to be ashamed of. Because it's not normal.

 

I hate it when people just reassure some guy telling him it's ok or there's nothing wrong, if you're jerking of to a video game then yeah you should realise you're pretty perverted and it's not society's fault for not being openminded.

Btw does anyone know if there's a sex mod for Daggerfall ?

 

Oh, I get it. I get the impression that you enjoy the idea of being considered a pervert for installing adult mods. But if you think jerking off to a video game is truly deviant behavior, you need to get out more.  

[Molevalence]

Honestly, you should not feel ashamed. Everyone is different and has their own personal pleasures, kinks, and turn ons. Everyone faps to porn in all of its different variations and magazines (once upon a time.) To me if you want to fap to gaming it's just another variation of porn but with some manipulation. People usually are quite discreet about it if they do regardless of any sexual fantasy, pleasure, attraction, or kink. Do what you want in this situation just don't advertise it otherwise you're just asking to put a giant spotlight above your head.

[Swiftstep]

I wonder how retarded does someone have to be to think a journalist risking his life to get media coverage of a war, all that in hopes of informing people about the suffering elsewhere can even compare to doing sex roleplay in a video game.

I am very sorry, but I seem to be unable to understand your statement. My approach was to compare the willingness of seeing murder and military attacks while having lunch and feeling nothing about it, while it became a worldwide news when some singer revealed her bosom during a sport event. The very fact that we are used to see death in television, but become shocked when seeing parts of the female body that normally is clothed (in most parts of the world).

Maybe I did choose my words wrong, and that makes it difficult for you to understand. In that case, I appreciate the feedback you provided me with. I will try to pick my words more carefully so that no one might feel appalled by it. Thanks in advance for trying to make me understand your point better.

(I do not intend to feed anyone with anything, I simply am trying to be open-minded to critic).

[MonaBabii]

This is an all'round silly question honestly but...

It's okay to feel shame when you download an "adult" mod. It's okay to get angry at a game when you die or when the game is being too difficult... You're a human being, emotions kinda come with the territory.

What you need to do is balance things out. For instance if you feel ashamed for downloading an "adult" mod, but you find that the mod makes the game more fun or more entertaining... then there you go; see which one of those weighs more to you and go with it. You don't need anyone else telling you how to feel or what is good or bad, so long you're only affecting yourself/your own life and not somebody else's.

 

Cheers!

[pinky6225]

Alright looks like you guys don't get it.

 

He was asking if he should be ashamed, thing is it's something to be ashamed of. Because it's not normal.

 

I hate it when people just reassure some guy telling him it's ok or there's nothing wrong, if you're jerking of to a video game then yeah you should realise you're pretty perverted and it's not society's fault for not being openminded.

Btw does anyone know if there's a sex mod for Daggerfall ?

 

Me thinks troll post but on the off chance

 

On my way to work this morning i got stuck behind some twat doing 40mph in a 60, was irritating, so eventually my mind wandered and i imagined a harrier jump jet appearing over the horizon and blasting the stupid slow driving idiot off the road

 

Later on in the day while i was out for lunch i got stuck in a crowd of slow moving walkers (again this irritates me) so i began to imagine what a space marine would do (3 metre tall super soldier) and had visions of shoulder charging my way through the crowd with peeps flying up into the air

 

So even though none of this happened, i didn't particularly want it to happen and if we embrace reality couldn't happen i should feel ashamed?

 

Since thats your argument for why peeps should be ashamed of having adult mods

 

[ToJKa]

Yeah, i know what you mean, i remember that too. But it'll pass if you keep using them, soon you'll be as big of a pervert as everyone else here

 

Of course that may not actually be something everyone wants, so now might be a good time to run away screaming

[afa]

Totally irrelevant, ignore!

But but but what if the journalist was never there and was never shot at in a helicopter!?

tooopical

[Starbrow65]

[wulfgear09]

 Well if he/she feels bad ... Maybe Farmers only dot com? or Christians only or etc..... you ain't catholic by any chance are you?  lotta guilt there

 

 But really, if it makes ya feel guilty two choices are always available for you.. do it or don't or maybe its love it or leave it? no that was my ex wife uhm well you get the point.

[w33beast1e]

This topic amuses me, just like those  'I want less slutty armor mods' requests that occasionally pop up here. 

 

When you're feeling ashamed sexually ask a bunch of pervs for their input....obviously. 

 

 

[Swiftstep]

Hm, hopefully the community forgives me for the following excursion, but... :

Recently I changed my avatar picture from a Spongebob motive to something that was created by / for the band "Gorillaz" (Clint Eastwood e.g.); if you know the band, you also know that they're videos and art work was always based an anime / manga (don't nail me for the right description), and never a real-life footage. In that picture, the band posed in front of the flag of imperial Japan. Yes, the flag they had in WW2.

I am a member of this forum for some time and never felt attacked or mistreated in the slightest way. But after I chose this new avatar, the first post I made was being trolled (in Chinese).

Now comes this Troll. Not that I feel attacked. But I do not want to give the impression that I am enthusiastic about the Japanese invasion of China. I know that this topic is still poisoning the relationship of both people. My fear is, that by choosing that avatar picture, I hit a gaping wound - for which I would be terribly sorry. I do find the Chinese culture as much as fascinating as I do the Japanese.

As said before, please excuse my long words of "not belonging here". Just wanted to make clear that my intention was not to "motivate a (possible) troll". I simply don't want to be considered an enemy of the Chinese people.

[wulfgear09]

 Hey uhm, you are not to blame for some asshole trying to Troll or the japs attacking china for that matter. Just so you know Trolling isn't just for american prepubescent american boys,they come from everywhere, trying to fill the gap left in them for gods no what by making others get angry or ashamed and even afraid. I will let you have my old mantra,yours for free and to use anytime you feel bad for expressing your thoughts .

 

    Fuck um' !