SexLab Eager NPCs

[Laevanhunter]

Thank you both, these were both helpful, and yes OldGuy I do have all those installed, though it may be related to how Aroused isn't working (at least not showing up in the MCM menu) either. Further investigation is required I believe. Thank you both again.

[OldGuy879]

Thank you both, these were both helpful, and yes OldGuy I do have all those installed, though it may be related to how Aroused isn't working (at least not showing up in the MCM menu) either. Further investigation is required I believe. Thank you both again.

 

you are quite welcome... Aroused not working that not good there where a new patch just yesterday.... just install my self infact SAR21 ther was a problem in 20 that spams a message in the log.

 

if you use 20 use these 2 in the console when you load or start a new game

 

stopquest sla_main

resetquest sla_main

 

if you use 21 either the download or file may be corrupted...

[Laevanhunter]

Thank you again OldGuy, I'll test out the different versions and if Aroused starts working and then the dialogs work that will have comfirmed my suspicions.

[BeamerMiasma]

Hey I'm loving your mod ty for the work. I have one question and one suggestion. The question is how do I use the orgy feature cant seem to get it to show up in chat? And the suggestion is to add an option to do it on the spot or find someplace private like from SL Submit. Thanks!

 

To get the orgy option, you need to talk to a lover (relationship rank = 4), and there need to be at least 3 NPCs nearby (including the one you are talking to) that have relationship rank 3 or higher.

 

[BeamerMiasma]

Hello Beamer..

What the function of the level of difficulty in slen ? if it determines it difficult to perform sex with npc or determine it difficult to increase the rank lover ?

Cause already try lowering difficult to novice it still Hard to increase Lovers Rank, from rank 2-3 and specialy rank 3-4 (i have to bribe npc because always not in the mood and have sex 4-5 time).

And one more thing on new game all Slen sex act in not increase Sexlab stats Vag,Anal,etc it only increase Sex time, partner, foreplay and some other in Sexlab V1.60.2.(correct me if only happen to me)

 

The level of difficulty determines how big the chance is that your relationship rank with the NPC increases. Easier settings will increase this chance. Try having more 'loving' sex with the NPCs rather than 'using' them. The more the option you choose is aimed at pleasing the NPC rather than the NPC pleasing you, the bigger the chance that the relationship rank increases. To increase the chance that an NPC can be charmed, use the shout or aphrodisiacs to increase their arousal.

 

Stats tracking is purely SexLab. SLEN has no effect on this, so any problems you encounter with that are likely related to SexLab.

 

BTW, 4-5 times sex to increase relationship rank from 3 to 4 is not very hard in my book. In my current play-through I am level 25 and still haven't gotten Lydia to be a lover - I must have had sex with her at least 20 times, possibly twice that often. OTTOMH the chance to go from rank 3 to 4 at default difficulty when choosing "Make love" is around 15%, so that's roughly the same as rolling 6 on a dice. It's not extremely hard, but the nature of 'chance' being as it is, it means that sometimes you just get unlucky.

 

[BeamerMiasma]

BeamerM. - I finally decided to report one problem that is often happening to me recently, after installing SL 1.60.2

Steps:

1. Completly reinstall Skyrim

2. Installed all mods and latest versions of FNIS, SKSE, SKUI, Jcontainer, SOS, Arousal Redux, Skeleton XP 1.94, Papyrus Utility and all of their requirements, and having NSAP 2.7c version.

3. Started completely new character.

4. Then after several times when starting sex through SLEN dialogue the game froze and I got "Microsoft Virtual C++ is running" or "Skyrim is stopped responding." Now, I do not know whose error is this: SL 1.60.02 or Aroused Redux or SLEN but since it always happens when starting SLEN dialogue I thought I should ask this question here. I suspect that SexLab can be responsible for this, but not sure. Would you please take a look of the last few log entries of my Log file? Thank you.

 SLEN Chance to charm - Actor       : Laraya

[09/04/2015 - 01:11:36PM] SLEN Chance to charm - Speechcraft : 39

[09/04/2015 - 01:11:36PM] SLEN Chance to charm - NPC Arousal : 98

[09/04/2015 - 01:11:36PM] SLEN Chance to charm - PC Arousal  : 0

[09/04/2015 - 01:11:36PM] SLEN Chance to charm - Relationship: 12

[09/04/2015 - 01:11:36PM] SLEN Chance to charm - TOTAL       : 149

[09/04/2015 - 01:11:36PM] SLEN Chance to charm - ROLLED      : 50

[09/04/2015 - 01:11:36PM] SLEN Chance to charm - CHARM RESULT: TRUE

[09/04/2015 - 01:11:44PM] Error: Object reference has no 3D

stack:

    [ (000A7EA9)].Sound.Play() - "<native>" Line ?

    [ (000B78EE)].HelgenRandomSoundScript.OnUpdate() - "HelgenRandomSoundScript.psc" Line 107

[09/04/2015 - 01:11:58PM] SEXLAB - NOTICE: ValidateActor(Laraya) -- TRUE -- MISS

[09/04/2015 - 01:11:59PM] SEXLAB - NOTICE: ValidateActor(Archer Adam) -- TRUE -- HIT

[09/04/2015 - 01:11:59PM] SLEN Utility - Info: MakeTaggedSexEx got 2 actors: [[Actor < (740012C6)>], [Actor < (00000014)>], None, None, None]

[09/04/2015 - 01:11:59PM] SEXLAB - GetByTags(ActorCount=2, Tags=Cunnilingus,MF, TagsSuppressed=Furniture,Lesbian, RequireAll=TRUE)

[09/04/2015 - 01:11:59PM] SEXLAB - Found Animations(5)

[09/04/2015 - 01:11:59PM] SLEN Utility - Info: MakeTaggedSexEx found 5 animations for tags = 'Cunnilingus,MF' and tagsToExclude = 'Furniture,Lesbian', attempting to start sex

[09/04/2015 - 01:11:59PM] SEXLAB - Thread[0]  - Entering Making State

[09/04/2015 - 01:11:59PM] SEXLAB - NOTICE: ValidateActor(Laraya) -- TRUE -- HIT

 

There are no script errors so hard to say what the exact cause is, but it's probably not papyrus related. The C++ error you get is suspicious and suggests a deeper system/OS problem, try running MS update and see if there are any .net updates you missed, and try doing a DirectX re-install/repair. The exact spot where your crash happened seems to be when SexLab is in the process of starting the sex scene (between validating the first and second actor to be precise) but that isn't really an indication of anything as the crash might have been caused by something that happened on another thread.

 

Thank you both, these were both helpful, and yes OldGuy I do have all those installed, though it may be related to how Aroused isn't working (at least not showing up in the MCM menu) either. Further investigation is required I believe. Thank you both again.

 

If SL Aroused isn't working, you're definitely going to have to solve that problem first before SLEN will work properly. Try switching to SexLab Aroused Redux if you're still on the original SLA. Check your papyrus log to see if there is any indication there why SLA doesn't start up properly. I'd recommend uninstalling every other mod that depends on SLA (including SLEN) until you can at least access the SLA MCM menu. Once you have that working, add back the mods dependent on SLA one by one, and don't add another until you've confirmed first that the previous one works correctly.

 

[uman2631]

A suggestion for the shout: the cooldown is much, much too high.  180 means that I can't use ANY shouts at all for 3 real life minutes, which is practically an eternity.  It should be comparable to existing shouts.

Also, you might consider tweaking the difficulty of the charm/persuade a bit.  Even with 75 persuasion, and gender check turned off, I get turned down at least 75% of the time.  I have noticed that npc arousal seems to make the biggest difference, which I guess is immersive, but hard to wait around long enough for npc's arousal to increase enough for the charm to work.  But...whatever.

[Shivem]

Thanks for the replies guys. Sorry I didnt see the posts on the suggestion. On the Orgy part, if I change my custom followers relationships from friends to lovers in the CK it should work right away correct? As always ty for your time and hard work.

[OldGuy879]

Thanks for the replies guys. Sorry I didnt see the posts on the suggestion. On the Orgy part, if I change my custom followers relationships from friends to lovers in the CK it should work right away correct? As always ty for your time and hard work.

 

yes in teory though why not take the time and be loving to you custom follower it works just as well when you charm you follower say "I want to make love to you" 2 out of 3 or something like that   I have had a follower relationship increase just got a visit in bed by Lydia

 

 

 "Blush when aroused" mod seems to be working after hotfix 2 to sexlab 1.6

 

[Sacremas]

Don't need CK, just use console commands.

 

setrelationshiprankplayer <target> <#> -Changes the relationship between a player and the target 1=acquaintance, 2=confidant, 3=ally, 4=lover

getrelationshiprank player <target> - Gets the relationship rank of the target to the player (note that selecting the NPC and entering SLEN's MCM also tells you his relationship rank).

 

For a slightly less cheaty manner you can also install Sexlab Submit and use it's dialogue options to cause sex, with a good persuade you'll pretty much always succeed and on success the relationship rank goes up by 1. http://www.loverslab.com/topic/19709-sexlab-submit-01sep14-1133/

[Shivem]

 

Thanks for the replies guys. Sorry I didnt see the posts on the suggestion. On the Orgy part, if I change my custom followers relationships from friends to lovers in the CK it should work right away correct? As always ty for your time and hard work.

 

yes in teory though why not take the time and be loving to you custom follower it works just as well when you charm you follower say "I want to make love to you" 2 out of 3 or something like that   I have had a follower relationship increase just got a visit in bed by Lydia

 

SLEEN_lovers_comfort.png

 

 "Blush when aroused" mod seems to be working after hotfix 2 to sexlab 1.6

 

SLENAdrianne_charmed.png

 

 

Oh thats only for testing lol. Im gearing up for a new game 

[Shivem]

One other question. If my SLA v17 is working in the mcm should i stick with it or go to v21? Also am planning to run SL 1.59c again until some mods get updated.

[OldGuy879]

One other question. If my SLA v17 is working in the mcm should i stick with it or go to v21? Also am planning to run SL 1.59c again until some mods get updated.

 

if you plan to use 1.59c you should stick with SLA v17 for now. I am not sure how well 20 and 21 react to 1.59c but I know 17 work well with

[BeamerMiasma]

One other question. If my SLA v17 is working in the mcm should i stick with it or go to v21? Also am planning to run SL 1.59c again until some mods get updated.

 

You should really ask that in the SLA Redux thread, however my 2 cents worth is that you should update. v21 should work fine with 1.59c and contains quite a few fixes since v17, as well as dropping the LOD requirement for exposure increase which helps a lot in getting NPCs aroused.

[OldGuy879]

 

One other question. If my SLA v17 is working in the mcm should i stick with it or go to v21? Also am planning to run SL 1.59c again until some mods get updated.

 

You should really ask that in the SLA Redux thread, however my 2 cents worth is that you should update. v21 should work fine with 1.59c and contains quite a few fixes since v17, as well as dropping the LOD requirement for exposure increase which helps a lot in getting NPCs aroused.

 

your  opnion is worth more then two cent and I will try not derailing the topic again

[magnusx]

I suggest to add an slidder for the bribery way to get laid, dunno, 1500 gold is quite cheap XD it haves awesome features, ty bud, awesome work

[BeamerMiasma]

A suggestion for the shout: the cooldown is much, much too high.  180 means that I can't use ANY shouts at all for 3 real life minutes, which is practically an eternity.  It should be comparable to existing shouts.

Also, you might consider tweaking the difficulty of the charm/persuade a bit.  Even with 75 persuasion, and gender check turned off, I get turned down at least 75% of the time.  I have noticed that npc arousal seems to make the biggest difference, which I guess is immersive, but hard to wait around long enough for npc's arousal to increase enough for the charm to work.  But...whatever.

 

I'm actually thinking about increasing the shout cooldown as I think it is much, much too low. A single shout in a busy place like an Inn allows you to quite easily charm people in the Inn (let's say 5-10 people at a success rate of 75% or higher), which is good for 10 minutes of sex easily (after which enough time has passed to re-try the 25% that you failed without penalty). It's not a combat shout, it's a shout that is meant to be used in social settings as a precursor to a massive bacchanal, not something to be used willy nilly because you like your followers to have red cheeks. That's exactly why the cooldown is so long, you're simply not supposed to use it unless you plan to have sex for the next 3+ minutes.

 

You are correct that NPC arousal makes a big difference - obviously I would say, that's what it's for. If you're going to try to pick up people who aren't aroused, you're not going to be very successful. I would say 25% success is quite generous in that case. That is also why the mod offers a variety of ways to increase the arousal of NPCs. At 75 speechcraft you're hitting the cap on speech advantage (50%) pretty hard with most NPCs, so you're going to have to use other methods to increase your chances. Aside from increasing NPCs arousal with the shout and aphrodisiacs, being an Agent of Dibella and/or Agent of Mara can also give you bonuses on the chance to charm. The Detect Aroused spell can be used to actually find the aroused people. The upcoming version will also include a new line of Illusion spells that offer another way to increase the arousal of NPCs.

Oh thats only for testing lol. Im gearing up for a new game 

 

I know what you mean. All my hours of fucking Lydia were purely for debugging purposes

[BeamerMiasma]

I suggest to add an slidder for the bribery way to get laid, dunno, 1500 gold is quite cheap XD it haves awesome features, ty bud, awesome work

 

1500 gold is more than what Belethor gives you for 2 diamond necklaces, it is not a cheap price for a fuck by any stretch of the word. Buy all the property, buy aphrodisiacs and use them often, buy spell books instead of looking up in the wiki where you can pick one up for free, buy filled soul gems instead of harvesting massive amounts of them with SGO. Try playing the game with 1 follower who can only carry 300 weight, as it was intended, you'll be surprised how expensive a bribe can be.

 

Fact is that it's incredibly easy to be a millionaire in modded Skyrim. No matter what price I set on it, it's going to be easily affordable for any half-savvy skyrim player, so it seemed better to keep it in line with the other costs in the game. I made the aphrodisiacs expensive so they can function as a money sink, but there's just no way to price against 3 followers that are set as mule and carry 1000 weight each.

[Shivem]

LOL on the lydia debugging, and thanks for the help guys!

[Elf Prince]

 

BeamerM. - I finally decided to report one problem that is often happening to me recently, after installing SL 1.60.2

Steps:

1. Completly reinstall Skyrim

2. Installed all mods and latest versions of FNIS, SKSE, SKUI, Jcontainer, SOS, Arousal Redux, Skeleton XP 1.94, Papyrus Utility and all of their requirements, and having NSAP 2.7c version.

3. Started completely new character.

4. Then after several times when starting sex through SLEN dialogue the game froze and I got "Microsoft Virtual C++ is running" or "Skyrim is stopped responding." Now, I do not know whose error is this: SL 1.60.02 or Aroused Redux or SLEN but since it always happens when starting SLEN dialogue I thought I should ask this question here. I suspect that SexLab can be responsible for this, but not sure. Would you please take a look of the last few log entries of my Log file? Thank you.

 SLEN Chance to charm - Actor       : Laraya

[09/04/2015 - 01:11:36PM] SLEN Chance to charm - Speechcraft : 39

[09/04/2015 - 01:11:36PM] SLEN Chance to charm - NPC Arousal : 98

[09/04/2015 - 01:11:36PM] SLEN Chance to charm - PC Arousal  : 0

[09/04/2015 - 01:11:36PM] SLEN Chance to charm - Relationship: 12

[09/04/2015 - 01:11:36PM] SLEN Chance to charm - TOTAL       : 149

[09/04/2015 - 01:11:36PM] SLEN Chance to charm - ROLLED      : 50

[09/04/2015 - 01:11:36PM] SLEN Chance to charm - CHARM RESULT: TRUE

[09/04/2015 - 01:11:44PM] Error: Object reference has no 3D

stack:

    [ (000A7EA9)].Sound.Play() - "<native>" Line ?

    [ (000B78EE)].HelgenRandomSoundScript.OnUpdate() - "HelgenRandomSoundScript.psc" Line 107

[09/04/2015 - 01:11:58PM] SEXLAB - NOTICE: ValidateActor(Laraya) -- TRUE -- MISS

[09/04/2015 - 01:11:59PM] SEXLAB - NOTICE: ValidateActor(Archer Adam) -- TRUE -- HIT

[09/04/2015 - 01:11:59PM] SLEN Utility - Info: MakeTaggedSexEx got 2 actors: [[Actor < (740012C6)>], [Actor < (00000014)>], None, None, None]

[09/04/2015 - 01:11:59PM] SEXLAB - GetByTags(ActorCount=2, Tags=Cunnilingus,MF, TagsSuppressed=Furniture,Lesbian, RequireAll=TRUE)

[09/04/2015 - 01:11:59PM] SEXLAB - Found Animations(5)

[09/04/2015 - 01:11:59PM] SLEN Utility - Info: MakeTaggedSexEx found 5 animations for tags = 'Cunnilingus,MF' and tagsToExclude = 'Furniture,Lesbian', attempting to start sex

[09/04/2015 - 01:11:59PM] SEXLAB - Thread[0]  - Entering Making State

[09/04/2015 - 01:11:59PM] SEXLAB - NOTICE: ValidateActor(Laraya) -- TRUE -- HIT

 

There are no script errors so hard to say what the exact cause is, but it's probably not papyrus related. The C++ error you get is suspicious and suggests a deeper system/OS problem, try running MS update and see if there are any .net updates you missed, and try doing a DirectX re-install/repair. The exact spot where your crash happened seems to be when SexLab is in the process of starting the sex scene (between validating the first and second actor to be precise) but that isn't really an indication of anything as the crash might have been caused by something that happened on another thread.

 

Hi BeamrM. -  Thank you for looking my log file and for advices.

 

I did listened to your advices and checked my MVC++ and updated it from ver. 2013 to 2015, both files x86 and x64. Checked my DirectX 11 and reinstalled it. Repaired my MNF ver, 4.6....But..... the game continued to freeze. The problem wasn't in those files, later testing showed that problem was in these two files and LOOT load order:

 

1. NVidia Gforce drivers. That's very strange since I had GPU drivers 353.62 from August this year and they work fine with SL 1.59c. Anyhow, when installed new GPU drivers, 355.82, messages such as "MVC++ still running + Skyrim stopped to respond" were reduced. Now, the game behaved little bit better but still crushing.

 

2. LOOT 8.0 is a great program and very helpful but it suffers from "child sickness". It does it job 90% good, but other 10% sometimes fucks up game by wrongly placing very important mods in load order. I spent few hours to figure it out what (master) mods and some esp mods should go first in order. It can't (always) properly place SL 1.60+, SOS and Aroused Redux mod. Anyway, I will be lost without it, although it pisses me off sometimes.

 

3. Have latest SOS 3.04 mod. Setting the Vector schlong size probability to 100% was bad for my game stability. At the beginning all worked fine and then schlongfy started to "fuck me in the brain" since it froze almost always (depending on the mod I used) when suppose to schlongy to desired size ( I was so pissed off). The game froze 100% when should schlongfy NPC after SLEN. 70% of other crushes was again SOS schlongfy after using Romance mod, and 20% when using Radiant prostitution mod.... Anyhow, no one believes me that this function doesn't function properly and I was ignored and neglected with my problem, although all my mods are up to date and installed "by the book".  I can't figure it out why it does work fine at the beginning (new game) and then suddenly starting to behave weird although nothing was changed in the meantime (no new mods were installed or removed, and I didn't touch load order). Maybe there is no issue in SOS alone, maybe it's latest ZAZ, or SKSE 1.7.3 or Jcontainer load or reads files wrongly.  Just don't know. Anyhow, SOS default size value settings for NPCs  must remain "untouchable" in my game.

 

After manually rotating some mod's places in load order and returning SOS to default setting, the game finally started to behave normal.

 

I apologise if my statements doesn't looks logically correct to those who doesn't have such a problems and know how to explain things, but I have a problem to describe my problems correctly since I do not speak English well and doesn't know certain terminology that will provide correct explanation. I do know what is happening in my game, but do not know how to present it.

 

[Sacremas]

Microsoft Visual C++ crash errors are according to Boris Voronsky (inventor of ENB, writer of ENBseries) caused by an outside program like a virus checker, spyware scanner, or virus or spyware looking for things to connect with your files, Skyrim duing these scenes pushes too many of these files around, and so Visual C++ crashes because the program that tried to look at your files failed to do so. So it's not SOS, it's none of your mods, it's all of them and the amount of information and either making it look like a virus at work or look very tasty to a virus. I suggest the following;

 

First scan for viruses, deep scan.

Next Spybot Search and Destroy (free program, note that there are spyware versions of this, get the one from CNet!), search and remove all spyware and adware. Note that it'll kill your cookies so all your sites like Lover's Lab or OrcsOnElvesWildButtsecks.com will have you logged out of them, just relog and save it, these cookies are fine.

Now disable both of them so they're not running while you're playing, and try to avoid downloading porn or whatever you'd need them for normally while playing, turn them on after.

Go ingame, repeat procedure that led to MVC++ crash most often (including wrong load order), see if you get it now.

[V3mu]

Will you add a Dialogue after you select the sex position?

 then for "Immersive purposes" you could add that the target might reject after you select the position.

Because i find it weird that everyone is up for anal

[Sacremas]

It's a well known fact that when girls come of age in Skyrim the ritual is to be put in stocks in the markedplace and fucked up the ass by everyone until they like it. That's why no one objects, they're more like "that again, that's boring, you could fit a warhammer up there by now..."

 

Err, wait, no wrong mod, sorry...

[Elf Prince]

Microsoft Visual C++ crash errors are according to Boris Voronsky (inventor of ENB, writer of ENBseries) caused by an outside program like a virus checker, spyware scanner, or virus or spyware looking for things to connect with your files, Skyrim duing these scenes pushes too many of these files around, and so Visual C++ crashes because the program that tried to look at your files failed to do so. So it's not SOS, it's none of your mods, it's all of them and the amount of information and either making it look like a virus at work or look very tasty to a virus. I suggest the following;

 

First scan for viruses, deep scan.

Next Spybot Search and Destroy (free program, note that there are spyware versions of this, get the one from CNet!), search and remove all spyware and adware. Note that it'll kill your cookies so all your sites like Lover's Lab or OrcsOnElvesWildButtsecks.com will have you logged out of them, just relog and save it, these cookies are fine.

Now disable both of them so they're not running while you're playing, and try to avoid downloading porn or whatever you'd need them for normally while playing, turn them on after.

Go ingame, repeat procedure that led to MVC++ crash most often (including wrong load order), see if you get it now.

 

Thanks for the answer Sacremas

Now, my friend, I have no virus or malware or spyware at all. Have two programs for AntiMalware and Antispyware programs (Super AntiSpyware, business edition and Malwarebytes, AntiMalware, also business edition). I have Avira anti virus  too. They are only active when I'm on line. Before I play the game, I turn them off. Always. After I disconnect from the net, I always clean unnecessary cookies (using wise cookie management) and from time to time, I clean all cookies, history and similar. and I check my computer for viruses manually, not using scheduling managment at all. My Win start up programs are reduced to minimum and only active programs are those who are running my USB wireless and my graphic card (must be on in try bar all the time). I disabled all automatic programs that wants to connect to the net like updaters (java, Windows, Adobe reader and similar). So, as you can see, I' not a rookie in this area. I know how to manage my computer and keep it clean. Also, i always disconnect form net before I play the game.

 

So, I have to reject Mr. Boris's propositions in this matter. By the way, before I installed Skyrim 2-3 days ago, I reinstall Win7 and it's my xxxx time I'm doing this. Anyhow, I'm not ungrateful for your tip. Thank you. I'm just saying that this wasn't the issue at all in my game.

[Serenna187]

Will the next update include futa support?or is it already there and am i just using the wrong settings?

and another thing,maybe the "lets relax for a while" could be skipped for lovers?so it's not "of course dovakhin" followed by "my love"