First person Camera

[deltarno]

First off, as a first time poster please let me say how wonderful this site is, as I was searching for ages for information about these sorts of mods before I came here.

Still, modding is not without problems, as I have discovered.  I have recently downloaded the updated version of lovers, with the very very helpful English translations.  (Ver 1.4.1 rev 85).  I installed it, and spend half an hour playing around with it, trying to figure out how to run it without crashing the game.  I had to leave off a few of the programs (doctor and other minor ones that would cause shutdowns), and loaded up the game.

...Only to find that the first person camera was now two to three feet above my head.

This is a bit of a problem, since it screws with everything I try to do, and often clips through the ceiling.  I tried unselecting the Lovers mods, but it still sticks around.  Thus, I am confused.

The worst part, however, is that I am unsure if it is because of the lovers, or how it interacts with my other mods.  I only loaded a few mods before this happened, so I have it narrowed down slightly.

Which of these mods might be causing my problems?

-Lovers 1.4.1

-Oblivion Sexualized Monsters  http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=32838

-HGEC body 1.21

-Sensual walk animations 7.1

And how do I fix this?  Should I uninstall everything, put it back together minus the problem mod, and start with a new save game?

I apologize for this being somewhat vague, due to my lack of in depth programing skill.

Any help would be appreciated.

[dontbugme]

Something messed with your skeleton mesh, you probably can't fix it just by enabling/disabling your plugins. It would be nice to see all plugins you've installed. For instance, Deadly Reflex is using own skeleton that doesn't work right with stuff like HGEC.

[Ryanhabs]

there are tons of mods that have a chance of messing up 1st person camera.  There are also tons of fixes posted for each particular mods that has messed up the 1st person camera.  Without seeing all your mods (as Dontbugme stated) we would just be guessing at which one is causing the issue.  opem you OBMM go to import/export and select to view load order.  It will bring all your active mods up in a seperate window.  Copy all that text and past it here.  If you want to be kind paste it as a spoiler. 

[deltarno]

Huh, learn something new every day.  With luck, it will not take me this long to learn how to mod skyrim. 

Anyhoo, the mods are:

LoversCreature.esm

Oblivion.esm

Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm

Oblivion Sexualized Monsters.esm

Lovers with PK.esm

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp

Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp

bnmDLTIC-1-6.esp

Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp

Oblivion Vwalk UOS.esp

DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk DG_DS UOS.esp

DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk UOS.esp

Knights.esp

Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp

Knights Vwalk UOP.esp

Beautiful People.esp

MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp

Beautiful PeopleV22 - MaleReplacerV4.esp

eyja.esp

eyja Vwalk.esp

Adult_BookStore.esp

SP1stPLegs.esp

Sexlivion_0.4a_Full_English_v1.esp

Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp

Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp

Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp

OSM-Only female.esp

Brighter_Torches.esp

Natural_Weather_HDR_by_Max_Tael.esp

MidasSpells.esp

LoversRapeman.esp

LoversStopCombatEx.esp

LoversContraception.esp

LoversNTRburglar.esp

LoversJoburgv116.esp

LoversBCMSound.esp

LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp

LoversHideMenus.esp

LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp

LoversPayBandit.esp

LoversRaperS.esp

LoversPower.esp

LoversBed.esp

LoversEscapeRapeVPlayer.esp

LoversRapeSlave.esp

LoversFSE.esp

LoversLoveMucus.esp

LoversLoveJuice.esp

LoversCreature.esp

LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp

LoversTachiCat2.esp

LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp

Lovers with PK.esp

1em_Vilja.esp

LoversStupidNpc.esp

zzEDialog.esp

Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp

Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul Vwalk.esp

OOO-Magic_Script_Effect_Fix.esp

OOO-Water_Weeds.esp

Living Economy.esp

Harvest [Flora].esp

Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp

Living Economy - Items.esp

Cutthroat Merchants.esp

Also, I have loaded up:

HGEC Body 1.21

Oscuro's Oblivion Overhaul 1.33

Sensual Walks Animations Installer 7.1

Sensual Walks for Female NPC's 7.4

Hope those shine some light.  Again, thank you for the help.

[ArturoF]

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=Q8SZSCE8

Here try putting the above file in the following folder:

C:\Program Files\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Data\meshes\characters\_1stperson

****BACK UP THE FILE THAT THIS WILL OVERWRITE JUST IN CASE****

[deltarno]

*Sigh* Nope, that didn't do it.  Nuts, and I had just gone through a massive re-instillation just in case.  Ah well.

Luckily I only got the urge to play again to get in shape for skyrim (and to see just how much skyrim had improved), so my save game is only a few hours in.  Time to uninstall again, but this time delete every single mother lovin file from the folder, then re-install and try to keep my mods sorted.

Personally, I think I'll have to avoid skeleton remodels.  So, nude patches and the like, but no physical changes.

....That, and I'm going to have to figure out what mods to keep and what to drop...

Anyhoo, thank you all for the help, but sometimes slash and burn is the only answer.

[Long Truc Phuc]

I got this problem yesterday after I installed(copied to _1stPerson folder) a couple animations. I fixed such problem by renaming the folder and copying the backup I had made.

I'm not sure if a reinstall overwrites the file that causes the annoyance you mentioned(I believe it's the skeleton.nif file) -- maybe it does, dunno. Although deleting, or simply renaming _1stPerson to something else might work; there's another skeleton.nif in Oblivion - Meshes.bsa -- I believe -- that oblivion still reads if it doesn't find one on meshes\characters\_1stPerson.

[ArturoF]

*Sigh* Nope' date=' that didn't do it.  Nuts, and I had just gone through a massive re-instillation just in case.  Ah well.

Luckily I only got the urge to play again to get in shape for skyrim (and to see just how much skyrim had improved), so my save game is only a few hours in.  Time to uninstall again, but this time delete every single mother lovin file from the folder, then re-install and try to keep my mods sorted.

Personally, I think I'll have to avoid skeleton remodels.  So, nude patches and the like, but no physical changes.

....That, and I'm going to have to figure out what mods to keep and what to drop...

Anyhoo, thank you all for the help, but sometimes slash and burn is the only answer.

[/quote']

Before you re-install, uncheck this mod.

SP1stPLegs.esp<--------------------------------- it is likely the culprit.

IF you re-install, avoid it. It is part of deadly reflex. You might want to avoid deadly reflex altogether unless you really know what you are doing because it can cause a lot of incompatibility issues.

[Long Truc Phuc]

Yeah, I've read somewhere DR6 has its own skeleton.nif that messes up xLovers... just checked the 7z file and no skeleton.nif. Maybe it's another file that causes incompatibilities, like another .nif file. I don't remember if I didn't overwrite the files in meshes\characters when installed DR6; probably not. I've been playing for like 1 month with this mod and so far no issues. It's an awesome mod, I must add... it made me interested in playing Oblivion again.

Anyways, here's my _1stPerson folder. This might fix the first person camera issue, or not; download and use it at your own risk(extract to Data\Meshes\characters).
/>http://www.mediafire.com/?odhguhw1d9g27oa

[Guest Donkey]

I have deadly reflex too. Try this one. It works fine in my game , also don't forget when overriding to use archive invalidation.

meshes.rar

[Ryanhabs]

I too use Deadly Reflex. I use v5 though as I have gotten nothing but problems with v6. I tried everything including the skeleton fix thats posted on nexus for it. Just couldn't get v6 to work but 5 keeps me happy as most of the time its not fighting that some of my characters are doing.