Winking Skeever CTD - anyone got any ideas why?

[Content Consumer]

I am having some trouble with my game right now.

I am getting a CTD whenever trying to enter the Winking Skeever.

The game is pretty far along, so I don't really want to scrap it and restart, and before I begin the oh-my-gods-can-it-get-more-tedious process of disabling single mods one at a time and loading the game again to see what's causing the issue, I wonder if anyone else has had this problem, or can offer advice?

 

The papyrus logs don't help much. I mean, I get a bunch of standard errors and warnings, but nothing I can see that pertains to the winking skeever.

Here's a log where I load the game in the blue palace and then run to the winking skeever - ctd when opening the door to the inn.

Papyrus.0.log

Here's a log where I try to coc to the winking skeever right from the main menu.

Papyrus.1.log

 

Same thing happens both times - instant ctd. Not even a pause, like the game is trying to load something and failing - instant.

 

Here's my load order for this game, which is what might actually help here.

 

 00 Skyrim.esm

 

•  01 Update.esm

 

•  02 Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp [Version 2.1.3]

 

•  03 Dawnguard.esm

 

•  04 Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp [Version 2.1.3]

 

•  05 HearthFires.esm

 

•  06 Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp [Version 2.1.3]

 

•  07 Dragonborn.esm

 

•  08 Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp [Version 2.1.3]

 

•  09 ApachiiHairFemales.esm

 

•  0A ApachiiHair.esm

 

•  0B RSkyrimChildren.esm

 

•  0C CreatureFramework.esm [Version 1.0.0]

 

•  0D Fantasy Soundtrack Project.esp [Version 2.0]

 

•  0E hdtHighHeel.esm

 

•  0F SexLab.esm [Version 1.59b] (which is odd considering that I'm running 1.59c... or at least I thought I was)

 

•  10 SexLabAroused.esm

 

•  11 Devious Devices - Assets.esm [Version 2.8.3]

 

•  12 SexlabInteractiveArousal.esm

 

•  13 ZaZAnimationPack.esm

 

•  14 Devious Devices - Integration.esm

 

•  15 daymoyl.esm

 

•  16 Devious Devices - Expansion.esm

 

•  17 HighResTexturePack01.esp

 

•  18 HighResTexturePack02.esp

 

•  19 HighResTexturePack03.esp

 

•  1A Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp [Version 1.1.9]

 

•  1B SexLab Vanilla Voices.esp

 

•  1C NB-Scars.esp

 

•  1D IridumEyes2.0.esp

 

•  1E NoFallDamageforVL.esp

 

•  1F CastingGear.esp

 

•  20 Atlas Compass Tweaks.esp

 

•  21 DG and DB Axe Perks merged.esp

 

•  ++ Tiwa44_Minidresses_Dragonborn.esp

 

•  22 SexLab Dangerously Nude.esp

 

•  23 AzarHairPonyTail 03 - Havok.esp

 

•  24 BetterDestructionPerksC.esp

 

•  25 NoLockpicking - Novice.esp

 

•  26 DreamBurrowPatchWorkMaiden.esp

 

•  27 CelticMusic.esp

 

•  28 Celtic Music and FSP No Vanilla Patch.esp

 

•  29 MoreNastyCritters.esp

 

•  2A Auto Unequip Ammo.esp

 

•  2B bonemoldweapons.esp

 

•  2C BloodthirstVampireFeeding.esp

 

•  2D Better Runes - Greater Range and Multiple Cast.esp

 

•  2E bodyscars.esp

 

•  2F Apropos.esp

 

•  30 BVFE_Serana.esp

 

•  31 DibellanDefender.esp

 

•  32 FemaleWerewolf.esp

 

•  33 Combat Evolved.esp

 

•  34 SlaveTats.esp

 

•  35 Light Foot Only While Sneaking.esp

 

•  36 Exhaustion.esp

 

•  37 NPCWaterAIScripted.esp

 

•  38 Heterochromia.esp

 

•  39 CrimsonTwilightArmor.esp

 

•  3A CustomUthgerd.esp

 

•  3B DawnguardDawnbreaker_HolyFireEd.esp

 

•  3C SexyVest.esp

 

•  3D Kaw's Claws.esp

 

•  3E dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp

 

•  ++ ADEC_DragonbornArmors.esp

 

•  3F comvex-hmpriestess.esp

 

•  40 SunRune.esp

 

•  41 DSCR.esp

 

•  42 DualFlurrytoFlurry.esp

 

•  43 Faster Bolts 75%.esp

 

•  44 FasterArrows75.esp

 

•  45 FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp

 

•  46 FemaleMannequin_Hearthfires.esp

 

•  47 Osare Underwear.esp

 

•  ++ FullBootForKKSA.esp

 

•  48 Dawnguard Radiant Quest Adjustment.esp

 

•  49 GladiatorSandals.esp

 

•  ++ GQJ_DG_vampireamuletfix.esp

 

•  4A MagicSneakAttack.esp

 

•  4B RaceMenu.esp

 

•  4C Rayya.esp

 

•  4D nem-e5i5's RaceMenuPlugin.esp

 

•  4E HearthFire Display Case Fix.esp

 

•  4F SexLabDefeat.esp

 

•  50 ImmerSlave-DeviceCut.esp

 

•  51 UnlimitedBookshelves.esp

 

•  52 Brawl Bugs CE.esp

 

•  53 Elemental Staves.esp

 

•  54 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp

 

•  55 DynamicTorches.esp

 

•  56 Book Covers Skyrim.esp

 

•  57 Better Assassins V2.esp

 

•  58 SLIA - Dawnguard.esp

 

•  59 imp_helm_legend.esp

 

•  5A Katarina.esp

 

•  5B KillingTraps.esp

 

•  5C BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp

 

•  5D Stenvar_Revamped.esp

 

•  5E Leah Lilith Jewelry.esp

 

•  5F Potions.esp

 

•  60 LoversVictim.esp

 

•  61 Mini Vamps.esp

 

•  62 mslDeviousCaptures.esp

 

•  63 No Killmoves, No Killcams, No Killbites.esp

 

•  64 OMageCommonRobesV2.esp

 

•  65 PSMHFOverhaul.esp

 

•  66 RaceMenuPlugin.esp

 

•  ++ Tiwa44_Minidresses.esp

 

•  67 RealisticWaterTwo.esp

 

•  68 SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp

 

•  69 SexLabMatchMaker.esp [Version 5]

 

•  6A SexLabNudeCreatures.esp

 

•  6B SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp

 

•  6C SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp

 

•  ++ SexLabNudesuitVariants.esp

 

•  6D Sexy Armor Replacer Patch.esp

 

•  6E SkyUI.esp

 

•  6F DVA - Dynamic Vampire Appearance.esp

 

•  70 SLIA - Dragonborn.esp

 

•  71 SLIA - Skyrim.esp

 

•  72 Speed Revised.esp

 

•  73 Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin.esp

 

•  74 Wintermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp

 

•  75 Animated Weapon Enchants.esp

 

•  76 Better Deadly Bandits Weapon Only.esp

 

•  ++ GECK.O_Skyrim_MoreMales.esp

 

•  77 sanguinesDebauchery.esp

 

•  78 ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp

 

•  79 SkyrimCoinReplacerRedux.esp

 

•  7A Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp

 

•  7B SoS - The Wilds.esp [Version 1.13]

 

•  7C SoS - Civilization.esp [Version 1.02]

 

•  7D Captured Dreams.esp

 

•  7E Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp

 

•  7F Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.esp

 

•  80 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Weathers.esp

 

•  81 realrainextended.esp

 

•  82 SaturationBoost.esp

 

•  83 Supreme Storms.esp

 

•  84 Darker Bloodcursed Sky.esp

 

•  85 Thunderchild - Epic Shout Package.esp

 

•  86 Improved Dragonrend Shout.esp

 

•  87 SoS - The Dungeons.esp [Version 1.23]

 

•  88 PotemaRealFix.esp

 

•  89 FS_UltimateAssortment.esp

 

•  8A Cidhna Mine Expanded.esp

 

•  8B SexLab_Solutions.esp

 

•  8C Tamriel Reloaded Mountains.esp

 

•  8D BetterDGEntrance.esp [Version 1.0]

 

•  8E SexLab-Stories.esp

 

•  8F StewardUniforms.esp

 

•  90 OMageReplacerPack.esp

 

•  91 Ezuka's Wedding Rings.esp

 

•  92 OpulentMageUSKPReplacerPatch.esp

 

•  93 animal_mansion.esp

 

•  94 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.esp

 

•  95 RSChildren_CompleteUSKP.esp

 

•  96 RSChildren_V.esp

 

•  97 SexLabSkoomaWhore.esp

 

•  98 TradeBarter.esp

 

•  99 SoS - Civilization-PatchRLOMajorCityInteriors.esp

 

•  9A BetterHjerim.esp

 

•  9B Populated Dungeons Caves Ruins for USKP.esp

 

•  9C RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp

 

•  9D Cloaks.esp

 

•  9E GuardOutfits.esp

 

•  9F CFTO.esp

 

•  A0 SexSlavesForVanillaBandits.esp

 

•  A1 BeastessLair.esp

 

•  A2 Unique Booze Bottles Alternate Names Version.esp

 

•  A3 UniqueBorderGates-All.esp

 

•  A4 DeviouslyHelpless.esp

 

•  A5 DeviousRegulations.esp

 

•  A6 Populated Lands Roads Paths.esp

 

•  A7 Populated Forts Towers Places.esp

 

•  A8 Populated Cities Towns Villages.esp

 

•  A9 CoCo_TDM2.esp

 

•  AA MeekoHuskyEssential.esp

 

•  AB SLIA - The Devious Manual.esp

 

•  AC shoespack.esp

 

•  AD MissingTotemPuzzlePillars.esp

 

•  AE Atlas Map Markers.esp

 

•  AF SimpleSlavery.esp

 

•  B0 RewardYourFollowers.esp

 

•  B1 DibellasRecruit.esp

 

•  B2 BesEss.esp

 

•  B3 Aurora - Standing Stones of Skyrim.esp

 

•  B4 Devious Cidhna.esp

 

•  B5 Alteration and Restoration redux.esp

 

•  B6 RestorationIdleFix.esp

 

•  B7 CollegeDaysWinterhold.esp

 

•  B8 SexLab_Dialogues.esp

 

•  B9 SexLab-StoriesDevious.esp

 

•  BA SoS - Civilization-PatchRLOMinorCities.esp

 

•  BB SoS - The Dungeons-PatchRLODungeons.esp

 

•  BC Svs Collection Jewelry.esp

 

•  BD FSP - Unique Towns & Locations.esp

 

•  BE Followers___.esp (merged mod of several follower mods - see note below)

 

•  BF Companions Radiant Quest Adjustment.esp

 

•  C0 Bijin Wives.esp

 

•  C1 SBF Beleval.esp

 

•  C2 Unique Uniques.esp [Version 1.8]

 

•  C3 Populated Skyrim Prisons Cells.esp

 

•  C4 Lore Weapon Expansion.esp [Version 1.3]

 

•  C5 ElvenWeaponry.esp

 

•  C6 ElvenWeaponryFasterArrows75%.esp

 

•  C7 Faction Crossbows.esp [Version 1.2.1WAFR]

 

•  C8 Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp

 

•  C9 ShieldsofSkyrimLists.esp

 

•  CA Torcs_35.esp

 

•  CB Enchanting Freedom.esp

 

•  CC Water and Wind Destruction.esp

 

•  CD Skilltest.esp (ignore - personal mod that alters a couple of global variables in the base game)

 

•  CE bound weapons redux.esp

 

•  CF Prometheus_BeastSkeletons.esp

 

•  D0 daymoyl_DawnguardAddon.esp

 

•  D1 UniqueBorderGates-All-BetterDGEntrance.esp

 

•  D2 Atlas Dawnguard.esp

 

•  D3 FSP - Dawnguard Edition.esp

 

•  D4 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp [Version 1.2.8]

 

•  D5 Slaves of Tamriel.esp

 

•  D6 SoS - The Dungeons-PatchRLOMajorCityInteriors.esp

 

•  D7 SoS - The Dungeons-PatchRLODungeonLighting.esp

 

•  D8 DragonPriestMaskQuestMarkers.esp

 

•  D9 itsatrap!.esp

 

•  DA Atlas Dragonborn.esp

 

•  DB EdhildilsDaedricFreakArmor.esp

 

•  DC Devious Deviants.esp

 

•  DD Gildergreen Regrown.esp [Version 1.2.6]

 

•  DE Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp

 

•  DF Atlas Hearthfire.esp

 

•  E0 Apocalypse - More Apocalypse.esp

 

•  E1 MF_RadiantProstitution.esp

 

•  E2 NewmNecklaces2.esp

 

•  E3 Dead Thrall on Anything level 100.esp

 

•  E4 Ghorza's Armor.esp

 

•  E5 LustmordVampireArmor.esp

 

•  E6 UniqueRadiantAndPartyClothes.esp

 

•  E7 NewJewelleryGems.esp

 

•  E8 Real Clouds.esp

 

•  E9 TheEyesOfBeauty.esp [Version 9]

 

•  EA Wintermyst - Increased Damage.esp

 

•  EB Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp [Version 3.0.4]

 

•  EC Bashed Patch, 0.esp

 

Note on Followers mod: Includes several follower makeovers. HirelingBelrand is one of them, and could conceivably be at fault, but I've used this mod in many many other games and he's never caused an issue before. Aside from that, there's nothing in the mod that even touches the Winking Skeever.

[Krow24]

Do you have any mods that add or change anything in the winking skeever? If you do try uninstalling those mods first see if it works if not your probably going to have to start from scratch with a fresh install.

[Content Consumer]

Do you have any mods that add or change anything in the winking skeever? If you do try uninstalling those mods first see if it works if not your probably going to have to start from scratch with a fresh install.

 

That is what I intend to do, yes. I just wondered if anyone would notice anything specific in my load order before I started altering it.

[kindashy]

Hard to say since I haven't used more than half of the mods you listed. Normally for me it is an issue with a follower that spawns there or too many NPCs inside the location....

[MoonNymph]

I don't read Payrus logs but the only mod that I would think that would affect it is RLO. Have you tried disabling this and seeing?

[Content Consumer]

Hard to say since I haven't used more than half of the mods you listed. Normally for me it is an issue with a follower that spawns there or too many NPCs inside the location....

Hmm... could be too many NPCs, I guess. I am using populated towns mod.

I wouldn't have thought it, though, considering that I've had other games with populated towns installed and not had an issue.

 

I don't read Payrus logs but the only mod that I would think that would affect it is RLO. Have you tried disabling this and seeing?

I haven't tried disabling anything yet - I was hoping someone would drop by and magically have an instant solution.

I'll try disabling various mods eventually - I just know it'll mess things up when I do, and I'm still hoping and waiting for now.

[Content Consumer]

Ah, heck. Turns out it was the Followers merged mod. Disabling it works. I would guess that Belrand is missing something... maybe from a .bsa I forgot to unpack.

 

Now I've just got to figure out where "HirelingBelrand.esp" came from and I should be able to fix it...

 

 

EDIT: Just edited the mod with TES5Edit, removed the belrand reference. Loads up fine now. So yep, I must've missed a .bsa file something when merging, I guess.

Problem solved.