Skyrim will crash when i load a saved game, but not when i start a new one

[theskyrimman]

Hi,

 

Ive just finished installing my mods today and have been trying skyrim in between most of them to make sure its all working properly. Yesterday everything was fine but today i noticed i had about 250 plugins and started merging some using tes5edit. I merged similar mods or patches for mods together like my armour mods and the skyrim distance overhaul mod.

 

I went down to about 230 plugins, started a new game in skyrim and everything was good. Then i quit skyrim, went back on a few minutes later and tried to load that same save game but its crashing. I thought it could have been from the merged plugins so i disabled them and re-enabled the individual mods but nothing changed. I tried starting a new game (i use live another life) and that will work, i spawn in the dungeon and then talk to the statue and start my journey again, only everytime i quit and load the save up again it crashes. So i can start a new game, but not load a previous one.

 

Ive sorted my load order with loot, ive run FNIS just in case but im stuck and was wondering if anyone here knew what was going on?

 

Here is my load order from loot if it helps. 

 

 

 

  0  0 Skyrim.esm

  1  1 Update.esm

  2  2 Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp

  3  3 Dawnguard.esm

  4  4 Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp

  5  5 HearthFires.esm

  6  6 Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp

  7  7 Dragonborn.esm

  8  8 Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp

  9  9 Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm

 10  a Falskaar.esm

 11  b Wyrmstooth.esp

 12  c SexLab.esm

 13  d ClimatesOfTamriel.esm

 14  e RaceCompatibility.esm

 15  f RSkyrimChildren.esm

 16 10 ApachiiHair.esm

 17 11 ApachiiHairFemales.esm

 18 12 ApachiiHairMales.esm

 19 13 SGHairPackBase.esm

 20 14 hdtHighHeel.esm

 21 15 ZaZAnimationPack.esm

 22 16 Devious Devices - Assets.esm

 23 17 SexLabAroused.esm

 24 18 Devious Devices - Integration.esm

 25 19 Inn Girls Resources.esm

 26 1a Devious Devices - Expansion.esm

 27 1b CreatureFramework.esm

 28 1c Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm

 29 1d daymoyl.esm

 30 1e paradise_halls.esm

       HighResTexturePack01.esp

       HighResTexturePack02.esp

       HighResTexturePack03.esp

       Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp

       Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esp

 31 1f Cutting Room Floor.esp

 32 20 SkyUI.esp

       Brawl Bugs CE.esp

 33 21 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp

 34 22 CharacterMakingExtender.esp

 35 23 XPMSE.esp

       Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp

       No_stretching.esp

 36 24 Skyrim Particle Patch for ENB - Flame Atronach Fix.esp

 37 25 Vividian - Weather Patch CoT.esp

 38 26 EnhancedLightsandFX.esp

 39 27 You Hunger.esp

 40 28 ELFX - Dragonborn.esp

 41 29 ELFX - Exteriors.esp

 42 2a RealisticRoomRental.esp

 43 2b ELFX - Dawnguard.esp

 44 2c immersive roads.esp

 45 2d SkyRe_Main.esp

 46 2e Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp

 47 2f Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp

 48 30 JKs Skyrim.esp

 49 31 CL NettlebaneOrg.esp

 50 32 3DNPC.esp

 51 33 Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp

 52 34 Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp

 53 35 SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp

 54 36 SkyFalls Dragonborn Small waterfalls.esp

 55 37 SDO Full-LOD - Waterfall Effects.esp

 56 38 RealisticWaterTwo.esp

 57 39 Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp

 58 3a grass & ground fixes.esp

 59 3b RRR_ELFX-Patch.esp

       Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp

 60 3c StaticFlora.esp

 61 3d FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp

 62 3e GloriousEnviroments.esp

 63 3f Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp

 64 40 ELFXEnhancer.esp

 65 41 sanguinesDebauchery.esp

 66 42 SDO Full-LOD - The Morthal Swamp Light.esp

 67 43 Immersive Wenches.esp

 68 44 SoS - The Wilds.esp

 69 45 SoS - Civilization.esp

 70 46 RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp

 71 47 ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp

 72 48 OBIS.esp

 73 49 SexLabNudeCreatures.esp

 74 4a SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp

 75 4b SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp

 76 4c SD Cages.esp

 77 4d Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp

 78 4e SoS - The Dungeons.esp

 79 4f SkyRe_EncounterZones.esp

 80 50 SFO - Expanded Diversity.esp

 81 51 hydra_slavegirls.esp

 82 52 Captured Dreams.esp

 83 53 sextoys-calyps-2.esp

 84 54 zdd.esp

 85 55 slaverun.esp

 86 56 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

       SoS - Civilization-PatchELFX.esp

 87 57 HentaiCreatures.esp

 88 58 RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp

 89 59 Cloaks.esp

 90 5a Run For Your Lives.esp

 91 5b xazPrisonOverhaul.esp

 92 5c Acquisitive Soul Gems.esp

 93 5d Watercolor_for_ENB_RWT_RND.esp

 94 5e Immersive Wenches RRR & ICAO -patches-.esp

 95 5f Lozenge S145 Shortsword.esp

 96 60 Skysan_ENBHorseTrough.esp

 97 61 RSChildren - Complete.esp

 98 62 RSChildren_PatchUSKP.esp

 99 63 SGHairPackAIO.esp

100 64 KS Hairdo's.esp

101 65 Immersive Sounds - Magic.esp

102 66 ImmersiveSpells.esp

103 67 LessIntrusiveHUD.esp

104 68 AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp

105 69 Differently Ebony.esp

106 6a IceBreaker's Improved Reverb v0.025.esp

107 6b dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp

108 6c Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp

109 6d EnhancedBlood-ImprovedCombatSounds.esp

110 6e HDT Capes.esp

111 6f Brows.esp

112 70 NB-Scars.esp

113 71 BHWarPaints.esp

114 72 RaceMenu.esp

115 73 RaceMenuPlugin.esp

116 74 RaceMenuOverlays.esp

117 75 TheCoenaculiUNP.esp

118 76 WetandCold.esp

119 77 fallentreebridges.esp

120 78 SDO Full-LOD - Whiterun Trundra Creeks.esp

121 79 SMIM-Merged-All.esp

122 7a RRR_3DNPC-Patch.esp

123 7b Better Vampires.esp

124 7c Skysan_ELFX_SMIM_Fix.esp

       SoS - The Dungeons-PatchCoTHardcore.esp

125 7d SimpleSlavery.esp

126 7e Immersive Patrols II.esp

127 7f SkyRe_StandingStones.esp

128 80 Chesko_Frostfall.esp

129 81 3DNPC Don't Call Me Dragonborn.esp

130 82 RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp

131 83 Presets 2-3.esp

132 84 EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp

133 85 SkyRe_Races.esp

134 86 SexLab_Dialogues.esp

135 87 Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp

136 88 Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin.esp

137 89 SFO - Dragonborn.esp

138 8a 3DNPC Alternative Locations.esp

139 8b OBISDB.esp

140 8c 1nivWICCloaks.esp

141 8d Drinking Fountains of Skyrim.esp

142 8e RND_DrinkingFountains-Patch.esp

143 8f RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp

144 90 RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp

145 91 RND_USKP-Patch.esp

146 92 Bandit Patrols.esp

147 93 LovelyHairstylesCE.esp

148 94 Schlongs of Skyrim.esp

149 95 SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp

150 96 paradise_halls_fellglow_slave_camp.esp

151 97 SOS - Shop.esp

152 98 daymoyl_DawnguardAddon.esp

153 99 SignTown_by_YURIL_1o5.esp

154 9a Immersive Citizens - CRF patch.esp

155 9b Hunterborn.esp

156 9c SlaversHideout.esp

157 9d Vampirelordroyal.esp

158 9e SDO Full-LOD - Giant Campfires.esp

159 9f SlaverunEnforcer.esp

160 a0 SkyRe_Combat.esp

161 a1 TheEyesOfBeauty.esp

162 a2 UNO - NPC Overhaul.esp

163 a3 AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp

164 a4 Immersive Weapons.esp

165 a5 WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp

166 a6 aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp

167 a7 dD-DG-DB-Immersive Creatures EBT Patch.esp

168 a8 Immersive Citizens - ELFXEnhancer patch.esp

169 a9 UNO - Dragonborn.esp

170 aa UNO - Dawnguard FIXED.esp

171 ab SuccubusRaceLite.esp

172 ac RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp

173 ad USKP Patcher for RaceCompatibility.esp

174 ae BVandRB_Formlist.esp

175 af VL No AoE Drain.esp

176 b0 Dr_Bandolier.esp

177 b1 Dr_BandolierDG.esp

178 b2 BandolierForNPCMasterFile.esp

179 b3 BandolierForNPCsWIC_V2.esp

180 b4 1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp

181 b5 Chesko_WearableLantern.esp

182 b6 Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp

       Hunterborn_Frostfall-Patch.esp

       Hunterborn_Requiem-Patch.esp

183 b7 Hunterborn_RND-Patch.esp

184 b8 Hunterborn_WearableLantern-Patch.esp

185 b9 LootandDegradation.esp

186 ba RND_AnimalLoot.esp

       Mighty Beasts - Werewolf.esp

187 bb OBISCloaks&IA7.esp

       SoS - The Wilds-PatchCoT.esp

       SoS - The Wilds-PatchCoTWinterEdition.esp

188 bc ClimatesOfTamriel-Sound.esp

       SoS - Civilization -PatchCoTSounds.esp

       SoS - Civilization-PatchCoT.esp

       SoS - Civilization -PatchCoTSoundsWinterEdition.esp

       SoS - Civilization-PatchCoTWinterEdition.esp

       SoS - The Wilds-PatchCoTSounds.esp

       SoS - The Wilds-PatchCoTSoundsWinterEdition.esp

189 bd ClimatesOfTamriel-Sound-Dawnguard-Patch.esp

190 be CoT-WeatherPatch.esp

191 bf Vividian - Extended Weathers - CoT.esp

192 c0 TrueStorms.esp

193 c1 TrueStorms-CoT-WeatherPatch.esp

194 c2 Supreme Storms - Cot Version.esp

       CoT-WeatherPatch_DB.esp

195 c3 CoT-WeatherPatch_NL3.esp

196 c4 CoT-WeatherPatch_Snow-40.esp

197 c5 CoT-WeatherPatch_SupStorms.esp

198 c6 TrueStorms-SupremeStorms-CoT.esp

199 c7 SmartCast_1_0.esp

200 c8 Vampire Lord Serana Fixed.esp

201 c9 ReadingTakesTime.esp

202 ca Lucretia.esp

203 cb HDTTailsEquipable.esp

204 cc 83Willows_101BUGS_V4_HighRes.esp

205 cd Strap.esp

       ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hazardous.esp

       ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp

       ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-3.esp

206 ce SexLabMatchMaker.esp

207 cf Devious Deviants.esp

208 d0 MoreNastyCritters.esp

209 d1 MF_RadiantProstitution.esp

210 d2 SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp

211 d3 ImmersiveFP.esp

212 d4 BDIC.esp

213 d5 Convenient Horses.esp

214 d6 DA-Survival.esp

215 d7 SDpatch - frostfall.esp

216 d8 Deviously Enslaved.esp

217 d9 DeviouslyHelpless.esp

218 da OBIS DG Faction Patch.esp

219 db SexLab STDs.esp

220 dc SexLab Dangerously Nude.esp

221 dd SexLab Submit.esp

222 de SexLabDefeat.esp

223 df RegnPiercings.esp

224 e0 FNISspells.esp

225 e1 paradise_halls_farengars_study.esp

226 e2 paradise_halls_SLExtension.esp

       PC Exclusive Animation Path - 0 - Main.esp

       PC Exclusive Animation Path - Argonian.esp

       PC Exclusive Animation Path - Khajiit.esp

227 e3 RSChildren_NonPlayableOverride.esp

228 e4 RSChildren_PlayableOverride.esp

       PC Exclusive Animation Path - Breton.esp

       PC Exclusive Animation Path - DarkElf.esp

       PC Exclusive Animation Path - HighElf.esp

       PC Exclusive Animation Path - Imperial.esp

       PC Exclusive Animation Path - Nord.esp

       PC Exclusive Animation Path - ORC.esp

       PC Exclusive Animation Path - RedGuard.esp

       PC Exclusive Animation Path - WoodElf.esp

229 e5 Sotteta Huntress Armor.esp

230 e6 Angelic_Demonic.esp

231 e7 Elewin Jewelry.esp

232 e8 Osare GothicLolita.esp

233 e9 lilithssickle.esp

234 ea AncientDraugr.esp

235 eb Elewin Pumps 2.esp

236 ec SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp

237 ed SkyRe_Survivalism.esp

238 ee Third Era - Dwemer.esp

239 ef SkyRe_Insanity_Dwemer_HatchetPatch.esp

240 f0 SkyRe Light Weaponry Fillout.esp

241 f1 BandolierForNPCsCheaperBandoliers_BalancedWeight_Dawnguard.esp

242 f2 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

243 f3 ImmerSlave.esp

       Bashed Patch, 0.esp

244 f4 ReProccer.esp

 

Thanks.

[Elf Prince]

Have you checked your saves for errors after merging files. I do not know how things goes with Tes5edit checking the saves, but I'm using Wrye bash when merging files, after installing/uninstalling some mods. WB has ability to check and report errors in your saves and to edit your saves so you can see what mod causing errors in the save after being merged.

Here are some tips from the author who had same problems as you and what he did and how he used Tes5edit:

(If you have the DLC then clean only from the last DLC you have installed. You may optionally clean previous entries in the list ie: Update.esm but do not clean any entry previous to Update.esm like Skyrim.esm or Skyrim.exe I would REALLY recommend that you clean from Update.esm down.)

Right click the file, and click "apply filter for cleaning"
You might have to grab a snack.
Right click again and click "Remove "Identical to Master" records"
A big warning message might pop up. Click yes.
Right click again and click "Undelete and Disable References"

Do this for every mod in that list. When you are done try to close the program. It might ask you to save some stuff. Let it, and close it out. Now, return to LOOT and sort your plugins again. Check to see if there are any error messages remaining. If there are (and there very well could be...) go back into TES5Edit and clean down the list again. Do this until no errors remain.

10. Run Skyrim from SKSE and attempt to load your corrupted save. If TES5Edit was succesful in cleaning all the junk out of your save game then it will load up. It might be missing some content, but it's better than losing all those hours right? If this worked, then boosh! You're done! Go kill some Draugrs and make things from wolf skins.

If however you go to load the save game and you get a crash to desktop then it's time for some drastic measures. Proceed to step 11 and brace for the worst.

11. If you're here, then things are really bad. Errors and bad edits have conspired to create lasting corruptions in your save and there is only one option left, and it's probably gonna be a 50-50. First of all load LOOT again. Check and double check that there aren't any errors. There really shouldn't be, but if there are... this means that you didn't load one of that mods dependencies. Rather than sort through and try to explain the difference between explicit and implicit dependencies or even worse try and tell you how to figure out which dependencies belong to which mod let's just do something much simpler. Longer? Maaaaybe, but simpler. I promise.

You need to load TES5Edit, and load every single thing on that list excluding mods that contain BSAs.

Skip to step 9, and clean every single entry from Update.esm down. This will take a very long time and you will likely want to kill someone before it is finished, but it must be done. This will ensure that any dependencies were loaded and cleaned. I managed to do this while watching some Netflix in an afternoon. Just a suggestion.

12. Go back to step 10. It should have worked by now. If it didn't... commit that character to the character boneyard and go drown your sorrows in some Tamika Vintage 399. Come back drunk as all hell and start a new character. Unless you're underage in which case, why do you have booze?

In my case doing all this restored all my saves

[Alan47]

Hi,

 

I experience similar issues sometimes. However, for me it occurs randomly. The very same save file may fail to load 2 times out of 3 and crash to desktop. I haven't been able to find the cause yet (unfortunately). I would suggest you try the following:

 

1) Does it *always* crash on load? Try 4 or 5 times. If you manage to load up the save, go into a house with not too much stuff going on and save into a new slot there. In my experience, a heavily modded skyrim tends to crash-on-load more often on large and/or crowded maps.

 

2) If it always crashes, try to load a different savegame. Once that's loaded up, go to the ESC menu and select "Load" from there, and try to load the savegame from there. Skyrim sometimes has issues loading saves when the engine was not loaded before. Again, if you manage to load up the save in this way, go into a calm location and save into a new slot.

 

3) If you don't have an older save, start a new game, and then follow the advice in 2). This is really a last resort.

 

 

If 1) 2) and 3) don't work, then one of two things may have happened:

 

a) Your savegame file is corrupt. In that case, I'm very sorry for you. There are tools to "clean up" savegames, but I have no experience with those.

 

On load, skyrim is attempting to load up or run a mod, and this mod causes your game to insta-crash back to desktop. Skeleton mods, HDT-related stuff and race mods in particular are often the cause for this. If that's the case, then try disabling those mods and load up the game, ignoring the "some used mods are not found blah blah..." message.

 

 

Hope this helps!

 

 

Alan

[theskyrimman]

Hi,

 

I experience similar issues sometimes. However, for me it occurs randomly. The very same save file may fail to load 2 times out of 3 and crash to desktop. I haven't been able to find the cause yet (unfortunately). I would suggest you try the following:

 

1) Does it *always* crash on load? Try 4 or 5 times. If you manage to load up the save, go into a house with not too much stuff going on and save into a new slot there. In my experience, a heavily modded skyrim tends to crash-on-load more often on large and/or crowded maps.

 

2) If it always crashes, try to load a different savegame. Once that's loaded up, go to the ESC menu and select "Load" from there, and try to load the savegame from there. Skyrim sometimes has issues loading saves when the engine was not loaded before. Again, if you manage to load up the save in this way, go into a calm location and save into a new slot.

 

3) If you don't have an older save, start a new game, and then follow the advice in 2). This is really a last resort.

 

 

If 1) 2) and 3) don't work, then one of two things may have happened:

 

a) Your savegame file is corrupt. In that case, I'm very sorry for you. There are tools to "clean up" savegames, but I have no experience with those.

 

On load, skyrim is attempting to load up or run a mod, and this mod causes your game to insta-crash back to desktop. Skeleton mods, HDT-related stuff and race mods in particular are often the cause for this. If that's the case, then try disabling those mods and load up the game, ignoring the "some used mods are not found blah blah..." message.

 

 

Hope this helps!

 

 

Alan

 

I disabled Skyrim Redone and now I can start a new game, spawn in Breezhome, walk outside into Whiterun city and save my game.

 

Then i can load that game from within skyrim and when i quit and re open skyrim.

 

Only thing now is im crashing when i fast travel. 

 

Any ideas?

 

Edit: Also, when i get back to the mod organiser screen, there is a little error triangle down the bottom that says:

 

11:30:58 [D] E:\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim\Mod Organizer\profiles\Default\initweaks.ini saved

11:30:58 [D] E:\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim\Mod Organizer\profiles\Default\lockedorder.txt saved

11:32:07 [D] E:\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim\Mod Organizer\profiles\Default\initweaks.ini saved

11:32:07 [W] not saving lists during directory update

 

Not sure if this is related, but i thought i would post it.

 

[xiztizen kang]

I used to have that issue too. One work around is to make one save in a small cell (like breezehome or if you use alternate start; the abandoned prison). And whenever you start Skyrim; load that save then load the save or auto save of your current play session. It sounds tedious at first but you will get used to it. I still do that even though I no longer have that problem out of habit.

 

[LastDragonborn]

Hey bro this may be a fix. Install SSME, The newest version of skse and then install safetyload. ALL TOGETHER and tell me if it works, please get back to me because I want to know the results. SSME is not obsolete with this setup even though it is in for debate, SSME is better than skse and safety load, but combined with those 2 it is no problem heaven for me. I had to do this type of build when I was setting up my hdt in order for it to work.

[theskyrimman]

Hey bro this may be a fix. Install SSME, The newest version of skse and then install safetyload. ALL TOGETHER and tell me if it works, please get back to me because I want to know the results. SSME is not obsolete with this setup even though it is in for debate, SSME is better than skse and safety load, but combined with those 2 it is no problem heaven for me. I had to do this type of build when I was setting up my hdt in order for it to work.

 

Ok, so i installed everything you said and for the moment I am not getting any CTD when im running around skyrim or fast travelling. The only time im getting a CTD is for some save games when i load them while im already in Skyrim, even a small cell like the prison or breezehome, although when it does crash I can go back into skyrim and press 'continue' and it loads fine. 

 

Ill have to do more testing but it seems that the major issues are gone. Thanks!

[LastDragonborn]

I am glad I could help a lil bit:)

 

Hey bro this may be a fix. Install SSME, The newest version of skse and then install safetyload. ALL TOGETHER and tell me if it works, please get back to me because I want to know the results. SSME is not obsolete with this setup even though it is in for debate, SSME is better than skse and safety load, but combined with those 2 it is no problem heaven for me. I had to do this type of build when I was setting up my hdt in order for it to work.

 

Ok, so i installed everything you said and for the moment I am not getting any CTD when im running around skyrim or fast travelling. The only time im getting a CTD is for some save games when i load them while im already in Skyrim, even a small cell like the prison or breezehome, although when it does crash I can go back into skyrim and press 'continue' and it loads fine. 

 

Ill have to do more testing but it seems that the major issues are gone. Thanks!

 

Oh and just in case if you didnt know your skse will need an ini. you can google up skse ini for lazy users and one will come up along that title for nexus, Just add the ini to This Pc,Documents,My Games,Skyrim,SKSE

[theskyrimman]

Ugh. I have barely played since my last post but for some reason after I installed this:

 

http://www.loverslab.com/topic/51365-0sex-skyrim-sex-sim-other-0s-content-wip/#entry1289461

 

And then did a bashed patch it has started crashing on the start up screen. As soon as the little steam box on the bottom right comes up at the main menu.

 

I deleted the mod and removed the bashed patch but it still isn't working. Exact same issue. I don't know why because I haven't changed a single thing beside whats mentioned above. 

 

Im not sure if this matter but I keep getting an SKSE plugin folder in my overwrite folder in MO when it crashes, called SafetyLoad.log. Also after it crashes in MO it says in the box below the overwrite part "not saving lists during directory update".

 

Any ideas why?