please help, my save file is becoming too big!

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I have been having an issues with save file bloating for quite a while now, currently it's at about 30 mb. My game was still rather stable so far except for some usual glitch that came with too large of a save size like 2 minutes loading screen and 1 minute saving time (and occasional freeze for a few 10-30 second every once in a while but still very much playable), however, I notice that the save had been steadily growing and I got the feeling that eventually this will cause my game to be unplayable after a while. 

 

I have tried making a clean save with Skyrim Save Cleaner, reset dungeon and havoc object yet my save file was only went from 30.2-30.1. I used unofficial patch, Loot, MO, and nothing seem to work at the moment. The save file seem to jump up significantly from 18 mb to 30 after the quest Dragon Rising, not sure if it's corrupted but as I said - aside from the loading time the game has been very stable I experienced almost no CTD and any other issue associated with corrupted save 

 

my current mods are as followed

 

Frostfall

Cloak of Skyrim

Winter is coming..  

Alternate live

 Sexlab

 Defeat

 Winter Overhaul 

 CBBE

 EFF

 Ordinator 

 Night sky retexture

 Heavy Armory

 Climate of Tamriel 

 Bijin Wife

 Biiju Warmaiden 

 Guard Armour replacer

 Adventure Armor

 Silver Dragon Arrmor 

 Nord chainmail pack (forgot the name, one that included in immerser armour )

Helgen a realm reborn 

 Powerful food (forgot the name)

Amidiam Elves Armor retexture

Amidiam Elves Shield retexture

Amidiam Steel plate retexture

Elven weapon for book of silent retexture 

Dearven powered armor (forgot the name, armor+quest mod)

 Insanitysorrow sword pack

 Inanity Sorrow Unique Unique

 Lore weapon expansion 

 Better shape vanila weapon

 JK Town (every towns except white run)

 Dawn of towan (only Whiterun and Markath)

 

and a few more, I am not at home for the moment so can't give you the exact list yet (but if you need one feel free to let me know I will up load it afterword) but they are either retexture or weapon mod

 

 my system is 

 Geforece 780 Ti 

 Ram 8 GB

 i4 4th gen 

 SSD for window but Skyrim run on ordinary drive

 

 please help, I have been trying to fix this issues for several days already and it's frustrating!! 

 

 did I use to many mods? my save is actually about 15 mb with a fresh game so may be that's possible but aside from CBBE I don't recalled installing anything too major if you have any idea what to do to reduce my game size please, help

 

 

 

 

 

p.s. to keep the size down, I didn't use immersive armour , however for some reason, despite using a pre-modded vanilla backup and fully migrate from NMM (which immersive armor is previously installed) to MO (without even installing immersive armor), the content from this mod seem to remain in my game (but no esp. shown up)

 

 

 

 

[Elf Prince]

Does your SKSE.ini looks like this:

[General]
EnableDiagnostics=1
ClearInvalidRegistrations=1
[Display]
iTintTextureResolution=2048
[Memory]
defaultHeapInitialAllocMB=768
scrapHeapSizeMB=256

 

If not, you don't have SKSE 1.7.2 or 1.7.3 version. Install it. http://skse.silverlock.org/

But first you have to enable your log file.  Do it like this:

Open Skyrim.ini (My Documents/My Games/Skyrim) and add the following to it. Replace "0" with "1" so it will look like this:

[Papyrus]
fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS=500.0
bEnableLogging=1
bEnableTrace=1
bLoadDebugInformation=1

Afterward, in that same folder you will see a new folder called Logs. Inside that: Script. Inside Script you will (eventually) find 4 logs. Double click and they should open with notepad or any text editor. Papyrus.0.log is the most recent. At the end of it you will see the last process to happen before the crash.

[GHOST WOLF]

Side story, if this helps you any way...

My save is 176 MB (9 files each 19.6 MB)

No issues that I can say, my mod count is 87+, gameplay time is 332 hours+

(every quest done, playing it for fun & mods)

When game loads up first it takes 1 min 35 sec ish, quick load 25 sec ish

 

I got nothing to worry tho.

[BjergerKing]

Save Game Script cleaner

SKYRIM Save Cleaner

 

That should fix issues as long as thy prince's post.

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sds

sorry just testing - I can't reply a thing because the web said I can't post link (which I didn't post any but may be because I use at sign for reply)

 

anyway let's me do this again 

 

thanks for all replies 

 

 Elf Prince - yes I already put that line on my skse.ini folder, I also download new skse a couple of weeks ago so I am pretty sure it's recent. Didn't try enabling papayrous log yet though, will try one and let you know

 

gut999 - I misread my save files a bit the save (ess) file is about 50 mb the 30 mb one is apparently skse. I still have no problem aside from a very terrible loading and saving time but I am worried as last time my save bloat it caused a tons of problems 

 

BjergerKing - Already used both, apparently I have no orphan script, and after removed all corpses my save went down from 130 mb to 50 mb but that's still huge for just under 60 hours 

 

Still thinking that some of the mod might cause issues though, do you think sexlab is the culprit? 

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some update, 

 

 I think I know the root of the problem now, I haven't clean my save file for a while but always use MO Loot to sort my load order. Today I tried to run loot separately without using the MO function, turn out that my update.esm dawngard.esm and hearthfire.esm have in total over 300 dirty scripts!! Just clean it all today using Tes5edit

 

 I have some question though if you can answer, should I started a brand new game to see if this save bloating issues persisted? can I see the different if I continue with my current playthrough? I wouldn't really mind started it over as I make this playthrough specifically to test the stability of my load order, however if I don't want to continue playing another 60 hours to see if my save bloating issues resolved. My current save is reaching 80 mb now, not sure as well if I can notice an improvement to save bloating at this stage.

 

Any advice? start it over or continue with my current game? which way is the fastest to see if there is an improvement on my save bloat? 

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Another update

 

 cleaning script seem to significantly help reduce occasional freezing while I run the game - doesn't help with the save bloat though, I tried continue with my last playthrough (currently at 80 mb save) completing the main quest in Riften and make a long walk from Riften to Riverwood to meet Delphie, clearing a couple of dungeon along the way (including Haemar's Shame although didn't start the Daedra Best Friend quest). By the time I arrived in Riverwood and make save, my save size is now jumped from 80 mb to 90!! That's also after cleaning the corpse and resetting the cell from the previous 80 mb save before I made a run to Riverwood 

 

Game is much more stable though, I would granted that much, although that much increase of a bloat for a mere couple of hours of playing is terrible. 

 

Any one still have any idea on what else can I do to improve this? Will post some of my Loot sorted list of my mod here sometime in case anyone have an idea

 

 

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my LOOT order

 

  0  0 Skyrim.esm

  1  1 Update.esm

  2  2 Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp

  3  3 SCO Winter Landscape Decoloration.esp

  4  4 Dawnguard.esm

  5  5 Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp

  6  6 HearthFires.esm

  7  7 Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp

  8  8 Dragonborn.esm

  9  9 Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp

 10  a SCO Winter Landscape Decoloration - Solstheim.esp

 11  b DynamicLoot.esm

 12  c SexLab.esm

 13  d Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm

 14  e ZaZAnimationPack.esm

 15  f EFFCore.esm

 16 10 ClimatesOfTamriel.esm

 17 11 Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp

       Rebirth Monster.esp

 18 12 ClimatesOfTamriel-WinterEdition.esp

       AOS2_CoT3_1_patch.esp

 19 13 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp

 20 14 SkyUI.esp

 21 15 Helgen Reborn.esp

 22 16 NPCs Protected and Uncapped.esp

 23 17 High Level Enemies.esp

       Rebirth Monster - SIC Patch.esp

 24 18 ABT - Kevkas All-in-One.esp

 25 19 Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp

 26 1a Lore Weapon Expansion.esp

 27 1b Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

 28 1c Perfect Legionnaire - Troops Re-equipment.esp

 29 1d JKs Windhelm.esp

 30 1e JKs Solitude.esp

 31 1f JK's Riverwood.esp

 32 20 JKs Riften.esp

 33 21 Cloaks.esp

 34 22 VikingGuards.esp

 35 23 1nivWICCloaks.esp

 36 24 1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp

 37 25 BardSoundsMalukah.esp

 38 26 Bijin Warmaidens.esp

 39 27 Bijin Wives.esp

 40 28 DawnofWhiterun.esp

       Long lost smelters by Hyralux.esp

 41 29 jasBetterFood.esp

 42 2a SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp

 43 2b DeadlyDragons.esp

 44 2c Chesko_Frostfall.esp

 45 2d CL EbonyWeaponsStandalone.esp

 46 2e DynamicLoot_DB.esp

 47 2f DynamicLoot_DG.esp

 48 30 DynamicLoot_LoreWeaponExpansion.esp

 49 31 Schlongs of Skyrim.esp

 50 32 FS_SwordofTruth.esp

 51 33 Unique Uniques.esp

 52 34 Insanity's Dragonbane.esp

 53 35 Ivory.esp

 54 36 JaxonzMCMKicker.esp

 55 37 NonSexLabAnimationPack.esp

 56 38 PCEA - 0 - DG and DB DLC - All Races.esp

 57 39 ResearchThief.esp

 58 3a Serana.esp

 59 3b SexLabMatchMaker.esp

 60 3c SkyrimConfigMenu.esp

 61 3d Symphonies Of Skyrim.esp

 62 3e NirShor-MusicalLore.esp

 63 3f Throwing_Weapons_Redux.esp

 64 40 Throwing_Weapons_Redux_PerkTrees.esp

 65 41 Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp

 66 42 Toccata as Elisif.esp

 67 43 UltimateDragons.esp

 68 44 WetandCold.esp

 69 45 Nordic Adventurer's Armor.esp

 70 46 WarchiefsMight.esp

 71 47 High Level Enemies - Dawnguard.esp

 72 48 High Level Enemies - Dragonborn.esp

 73 49 PrvtI_HeavyArmory.esp

 74 4a PrvtI_HeavyArmory_DG_Addon.esp

 75 4b SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp

 76 4c SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp

 77 4d SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp

 78 4e Upgraded Weapons and Armors.esp

 79 4f HonedMetal.esp

 80 50 FollowerWander2.esp

 81 51 FollowerWander2Serana.esp

 82 52 SOS - Shop.esp

 83 53 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp

 84 54 EFFDialogue.esp

 85 55 UIExtensions.esp

 86 56 Lore Weapon Expansion - Daedric Crescent.esp

 87 57 Lore Weapon Expansion - Goldbrand.esp

 88 58 Lore Weapon Expansion - Relics of the Crusader.esp

 89 59 StalhrimExtraCrafting.esp

 90 5a SilverDragonArmor.esp

 91 5b Skyrim Knights.esp

 92 5c aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp

 93 5d DawnofMarkarth.esp

 94 5e Extended Encounters.esp

 95 5f StormLord.esp

 96 60 Faction Crossbows.esp

 97 61 Insanity's Sorrow.esp

 98 62 Stormcloak Battle Armor Replacer.esp

 99 63 SexLab Romance.esp

100 64 AFurryHide.esp

101 65 Armour_of_Yngol.esp

102 66 SeraticArmor.esp

103 67 SeraticHeavyArmorDark.esp

104 68 SeraticHeavyArmorGray.esp

105 69 VikingArmor.esp

106 6a SexLabDefeat.esp

107 6b SCO Winter Edition.esp

       SCO Winter Edition - Solstheim.esp

108 6c SCO Winter Edition - Hearthfire Patch.esp

109 6d Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

 

 

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Solved!! 

 

 It was Throwing weapon redux that is causing the bloat, running script analyser and found that those mod a lone generated over 5000 instances, delete (along with any orphan script and the rest of invalid object and save went down from 150 mb to 10, issues completely revolved.