Vampiric Thirst by Miss Leeches

[DocClox]

i should go back and play deus ex (the original version).

Damn, I wish you hadn't said that. I've got a copy around here somewhere...

[sbseed]

everytime its mentioned people have to go back and play it again lol

[Oaklore]

i should go back and play deus ex (the original version).

Damn' date=' I wish you hadn't said that. I've got a copy around here somewhere...

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everytime its mentioned people have to go back and play it again lol

I always have it installed. It's in my top five favourite games of all time.

"Mess you up!"

[Myndt]

I might sound stupid, and I'm quite sure that I'm doing something wrong, but I just don't know how to fix this. Maybe someone can help me.

So, reading through the first Post, I downloaded the Files for Vampiric Thirst, moved them to the DataFolder and Installed the SKSE 10509.

I'm using the official Skyrim, no Crack and got the latest Updates via Steam.

I just followed the Steps mentioned in the Readme.

I started the Game with this SKSE thingy and got my little lvl 9 Female Warrior infected with Vampirism.

Happy me just walked to the Nearest City, and I waited 3 Days.

My Blood awakened and I just.. well.. fell over two times. And here goes my Problem - my entire Screen flashes red every 2 Seconds, and every Human trys to kill me.

At first, I just thought I need some Blood, so I searched for a sleeping Victim, found one, and I couldn't use the "v" key. Nothing Happened. Pressing E and then choosing the Feed Option gave me allot of Choices, but none of them could stop this flashing red Screen.

My Victim seemed to have an unlimited amount of Blood as well.

I'm reading that you guys are able to get some Vampire-Perks, how so?

If I open my Skill-"window", I can only see the normal Skills Like Sneaking and so on.

I admit, I'm using the German Language, not English, but once I killed a Vampire, the Remains were called "Vampire Dust" instead of "Vampirstaub".

Did I forget something? I'm not using any other Mods, besides RichMerchants.

[zippy57]

Has SKSE been updated for the latest Skyrim patch yet? If not, anything using SKSE might be horribly broken for the time being.

The way mods work, changes to items include everything in the item's record including its name, so if this mod alters Vampire Dust/Vampirstaub in any way the record would include the modder's version of the name, which in this case is the English one.

[Myndt]

Has SKSE been updated for the latest Skyrim patch yet? If not' date=' anything using SKSE might be horribly broken for the time being.

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Meh, you're right. SKSE only supports 1.5.89.0, and my Version is 1.6.89.0.6.

So.. I guess I can only wait? Or is there a Way to "downgrade" my Skyrim? ^^

[Asariphile]

Any thoughts on Dawnguard Miss Leeches?

Looks like Bethesda is changing up Vampires in this DLC. You thinking about doing anything with Vampiric thirst to compliment these new "Vampire Lords?"

[darkvblade]

Any thoughts on Dawnguard Miss Leeches?

Looks like Bethesda is changing up Vampires in this DLC. You thinking about doing anything with Vampiric thirst to compliment these new "Vampire Lords?"

It will be most likely with Miss leeches 2.0 version of V.T.

[Princessity]

I might sound stupid, and I'm quite sure that I'm doing something wrong, but I just don't know how to fix this. Maybe someone can help me.

So, reading through the first Post, I downloaded the Files for Vampiric Thirst, moved them to the DataFolder and Installed the SKSE 10509.

I'm using the official Skyrim, no Crack and got the latest Updates via Steam.

I just followed the Steps mentioned in the Readme.

I started the Game with this SKSE thingy and got my little lvl 9 Female Warrior infected with Vampirism.

Happy me just walked to the Nearest City, and I waited 3 Days.

My Blood awakened and I just.. well.. fell over two times. And here goes my Problem - my entire Screen flashes red every 2 Seconds, and every Human trys to kill me.

At first, I just thought I need some Blood, so I searched for a sleeping Victim, found one, and I couldn't use the "v" key. Nothing Happened. Pressing E and then choosing the Feed Option gave me allot of Choices, but none of them could stop this flashing red Screen.

My Victim seemed to have an unlimited amount of Blood as well.

I'm reading that you guys are able to get some Vampire-Perks, how so?

If I open my Skill-"window", I can only see the normal Skills Like Sneaking and so on.

I admit, I'm using the German Language, not English, but once I killed a Vampire, the Remains were called "Vampire Dust" instead of "Vampirstaub".

Did I forget something? I'm not using any other Mods, besides RichMerchants.

That's very weird but I don't know what it could be. Some other people reported it while for others and me it works flawlessly. I thoght this has to be some sort of mod conflict but if you really have no other mods... I don't know. I have like over 9000 mods running (or maybe a little more like 100) so I'm sure the mod is compatible with all sorts of things like magic overhauls, hardcore mods, skill modifications... The only mods that conflict are those that overwrite the things I mentioned in the "compatibility notes" part of description (and surprisingly a lot of unrelated mods do that! I SO hate custom races that can't keep their hands away from the vampirism assets!)

But if you don't have any I don't know what's wrong.

Just now I did a test. I installed this mod on a clean save with the last version of skyrim, SKSE and VT. Everything is working perfectly. The hotkeys, the hunger, feeding, ageing...

I'm completely lost ._.

Okays but there may still be one reason left: have you used any other vampirism overhauls on that save before? You didn't have to be a vampire it's enough if a mod like that was active and you saved while it was. If you did try doing this:

1. open the console and type "stopquest playervampirequest"

2. exit the console and have your character play hopscotch or whatever for a minute

3. open the console again and type "startquest playervampirequest"

4. find someone to feed

If this doesn't work I don't know what will ._.

Any thoughts on Dawnguard Miss Leeches?

Looks like Bethesda is changing up Vampires in this DLC. You thinking about doing anything with Vampiric thirst to compliment these new "Vampire Lords?"

Oh yaaah! That's what the upcoming version 2.0 is all about! I hope I'll be able to integrate the mod with the new features and I'll probably change some things too! I'm especially excited about the vampire specific "skill" tree!

By the by about the skilltree has anyone played a vampire in Dawnguard yet? Is that tree available outside of the "lord" form or only while player is in it?

[darkvblade]

By the by about the skilltree has anyone played a vampire in Dawnguard yet? Is that tree available outside of the "lord" form or only while player is in it?

It is only while you in Vampire Lord form you can set up the skill tree and level it up only using lord. believe the same with werewolf. They also added cool looking potion Bottle of blood might be a better looking bottle for your use

[Princessity]

By the by about the skilltree has anyone played a vampire in Dawnguard yet? Is that tree available outside of the "lord" form or only while player is in it?

It is only while you in Vampire Lord form you can set up the skill tree and level it up only using lord. believe the same with werewolf. They also added cool looking potion Bottle of blood might be a better looking bottle for your use

Aww that's so disappointing! ._.

But maybe (I doubt it but I sooooo hope!) the introduction of the non skill perk trees will finally let modders add their own custom perk trees! I would soooooooo love to do away with this clunky messagebox windows thingy I'm using now ._.

[Princessity]

On another note would you guys like if I made a "Vampiric Thirst Lite" version working on top of vanilla vampirism until the full version is upgraded to Dawnguard?

VT *will* be incompatible with the expansion and will cause a lot of bugs until I make version 2.0! but it may take a little time and I'll have to play Dawnguard first to know what to change anyway but personally I reeeeeally wouldn't like to have to go back to the disappointing vanilla vampirism even to play Dawnguard ._.

So I have a little idea I'm playing with: I'd like to pick a few features of VT and slap them on top of the vanilla system in a way that hopefully won't modify any vanilla assets. I'm thinking just dynamic sun damage, VT weaknesses and bonuses, the preeeeeeeetty ^^ ashpile after death, maybe also a simplified ageing system and some simple bonuses to vanilla powers based on age (unless Dawnguard changed something there? Have "seduction" and "vampire's servant" become any less useless? Pretty pleeeeeease bethesda?) But no fancy thingies like new powers, blood qualities, complex hunger and new feeding methods just the basics to avoid conflicts with the changes that Dawnguard introduced.

Soooooo all in all a few little touches to change the gameplay so that it slightly resembles Vampiric Thirst in a kinda less interesting a little dumbed down way...

Should I try it?

Awh and more importantly would someone like to test it during development? ^^

[darkvblade]

To be honest vampirism hasn't changed much mainly just Vampire lord and no longer hostile at stage 4 and you have to use Seduction ( Calm creatures and people up to level 10 for 30 seconds and allows you to feed on them )spell for the part of the quest but summoning the Gargoyle is awesome ( So maybe it might not be incompatible )

[Princessity]

It will be incompatible sadly. I mean maybe it could still be playable but in best case scenario you would have both the complete VT system and the new Dawnguard features standing next to each other and completely not working together. The character would be governed by 2 different systems that don't interact in any way, I don't want that! I'd like to integrate it so everything is one healthy functional whole that works and feels right.

Oooohhh by the by how does feeding on non sleeping victims work in dawnguard? Is it something you can do whenever you like and leave the victim alive or just a random killmove? Oh an is it only a part of the lord transformation or can untransformed vampires do it too?

Oh oh! And also can untransformed player and npcs use the new abilities? Like turning into bat swarms or mist or summoning gargoyles? I'm sorry I'm burying you with questions like that ^^ I'm in a planning rage right now and have to know *everything* xD

Ohhhh! And have I mentioned thank you SOOOO much? ^^

[darkvblade]

can do whenever you like,leave the victim alive and do as much as you want in human form. can not feed,loot or talk to npcs while Vampire lord form. For the bat swarms ( is like a Wind shout )and gargoyles ( is like a normal conjuration ) im not too sure but for pc i bet you can by-pass it either way Oh yeah there is new epic dogs in dawnguard called Death Hounds. The new Vamp lord spell Vampiric Grip is like Death grip from WoW then you let them go like using the Force shout very cool.

[Princessity]

Ooooh that's wonderful!

Hum... but does the feeding have any effect on npcs? Do they like lose health or fall over or anything or is it harmless and boring like vanilla sleep feeding?

Oh and also during the questline are any important npc vampires exposed to sunlight? No spoilers please ^^ I'd just like to know if. I wouldn't like to break any quests with my sun damage!

[darkvblade]

In the Future when everything is good and tied down start a new Vampire quest line? and If you're a vampire you can't get a Makeover done from the new npc that allows you to change your look so havn't had a chance to see how that goes so i will go to an older save with no vampirism Umm..... No effect on Npcs so its just drain them if they were Chuck Norris. Ahhh there is important npc in sunlight but she can't die.. and some how a miracle someone can create a potion which is like sunblock for your vampires . They have also added some Vampires can get distorted faces to look similar to a bat looks real bad ass. Nvm It goes night in the part i was thinking of so you're all good

[Princessity]

In the Future when everything is good and tied down start a new Vampire quest line?

Oh you mean if I'll add some quests? I'm planning to! There are some things I need to do before though but I have some ideas for a story.

and If you're a vampire you can't get a Makeover done from the new npc that allows you to change your look so havn't had a chance to see how that goes so i will go to an older save with no vampirism

Awww that's a shame! But I kinda expected that. The way vampire transformation works it locks your face's colour settings. Shape can be changed but trying to apply different makeup and skin colour would be buggy.

Awh but is there at least some explanation in game why vampires can't get plastic surgery? I understand the technical limitations but it's always nice when game tries to excuse such things in a plausible way (*not* like they excused lack of dual wield blocking ._,)

Umm..... No effect on Npcs so its just drain them if they were Chuck Norris

Awh... But that's just as well. At least it means there are no hardcoded effects so it should be safe to use with my system.

Ahhh there is important npc in sunlight but she can't die...

Aaaah okay I guess I'll have to add the unique npcs to exception list like I did with vanilla vampires.

But there is apart of the quest you might die maybe ( not 100% sure tho ), if not some how a miracle you can create a potion which is like sunblock for your vampires

Hum... does the quest at least let you feed in advance or give some warning that you're going to do it during the day? There is a "sunblock" in my mod if you're full on blood but it will only work if player has time to prepare.

They have also added some Vampires can get distorted faces to look similar to a bat looks real bad ass.

Oh? I'm sorry I don't understand. Do you mean the "lord" transformation or like batty morph on ordinary human faces kinda like vampires in Buffy?

[darkvblade]

I have some ideas for a story.

Excellent

Awh but is there at least some explanation in game why vampires can't get plastic surgery?

There is a mod called barber which can just by pass it all so when dawnguard comes out someone will make another mod for it.

Hum... does the quest at least let you feed in advance or give some warning that you're going to do it during the day? There is a "sunblock" in my mod if you're full on blood but it will only work if player has time to prepare.

I found out it does got Night and it doesn't tell you if you're going in daylight but i guess you can just tell the time yourself or put in a warning. but there is a certain but of a quest which breaks down the roof and walls which might put you in sunlight.

Oh? I'm sorry I don't understand. Do you mean the "lord" transformation or like batty morph on ordinary human faces kinda like vampires in Buffy?

Not every vampire gets this only some who are Vampire Lords it does really look like Angel/buffy time does have some aspects but is different looks. One of the main Vampire Npcs is the best looking npc/vampire on original looks ( that is human form look )

[Princessity]

There is a mod called barber which can just by pass it all so when dawnguard comes out someone will make another mod for it.

Aw I know but that's not what I meant. I know why they restricted it and I'm not really that interested in it (I can always use showracemenu when I need it) but I'm simply curious if some npc or something gives the player character a plausible explanation why vampires can't get a makover. Like "because their flesh is unchanging and always reverts to its previous state" like in Vampire the Masquerade or Vampire Chronicles or something like that. I just don't like it when game limits me but doesn't make the limit believable for roleplaying in any way.

I found out it does got Night and it doesn't tell you if you're going in daylight but i guess you can just tell the time yourself or put in a warning. but there is a certain but of a quest which breaks down the roof and walls which might put you in sunlight.

Aaaah that's inconvenient ._. but I'm trying not to mess with any vanilla assets I don't absolutely need to so I guess player will simply have to be prepared or suffer.

Not every vampire gets this only some who are Vampire Lords it does really look like Angel/buffy time does have some aspects but is different looks. One of the main Vampire Npcs is the best looking npc/vampire on original looks ( that is human form look )

Sweet ^^ Maybe I'll even find a way to use it for something.

[darkvblade]

The Makeover Npc just says Im not doing anyone who is Undeath so i was like D: bitch.

Yeah about the quest i think it might even still be able to be night when the walls and roof breakin if not prepare for saves and hardcore death.

But i don't really like vampire eyes being Yellow i love them Light Blue(Unworld style ).

Later on down the track should try and collaborate the old Werewolves Vs. Vampires not like Twilight like imagine Blade+Unworld would be like a triple threat all 3 trying to take out each other Human/Werewolves(Lycan)/Vampires.

[Princessity]

Aww nuh werewolves vs vampires aren't really my style. I love intrigues *among* vampires though! Ancient conflicts, wars fought through generations of unwitting pawns, elaborate plots slowly unfolding over centuries... and there will be a lot of it ^^ werewolves would just be getting in the way ^^

Awh and I have just one more question: is the "vampire lord" form different for female characters or was bethesda lazy like with werewolves and made it unisex? ._.

[darkvblade]

Ancient conflicts' date=' wars fought through generations of unwitting pawns, elaborate plots slowly unfolding over centuries... and there will be a lot of it ^^ werewolves would just be getting in the way ^^

Awh and I have just one more question: is the "vampire lord" form different for female characters or was bethesda lazy like with werewolves and made it unisex? ._.

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Understandable i never really like werewolves but i like them getting beaten the crap out of by vampires I love the Ancient gerenation stories of vampires always gets me hooked, Yeah no female Vampire lord form sucks ass but someone will most likely make an amazing female form of it. And boo one more question? i thought you wanted more questions jes hehe

[Princessity]

Well my first idea was an influence war between the expanding Cyrodill vampires and native Volkihar of skyrim but Dawnguard made it a little more complicated.

But I love complicated! ^^ It means the questline will need to be designed with a lot of finesse and subtlety and ohhhh! it will finally give me a chance to do what I always wanted but couldn't in vanilla skyrim:

play fragile political games, be forced to think things through before acting and at least this once also (if I want to) be able to manipulate others to my ends instead of being forced to play the gullible one like always. Ohhhhh I will sooooo do my darnest to make sure that anyone who just wants to run around mindlessly hacking things will be instantly appalled by my mod! ^^

And awwwwwh silly bethesda ._. I so hope someone will create a female version of the lord form soon because other than being ugly it totally looks like a guy ._.

[darkvblade]

Well my first idea was an influence war between the expanding Cyrodill vampires and native Volkihar of skyrim but Dawnguard made it a little more complicated.

But I love complicated! ^^ It means the questline will need to be designed with a lot of finesse and subtlety and ohhhh! it will finally give me a chance to do what I always wanted but couldn't in vanilla skyrim:

play fragile political games' date=' be forced to think things through before acting and at least this once also (if I want to) be able to manipulate others to my ends instead of being forced to play the gullible one like always. Ohhhhh I will sooooo do my darnest to make sure that anyone who just wants to run around mindlessly hacking things will be instantly appalled by my mod! ^^[/quote']

Sounds like fun especially the random screaming hacking part like a mad headless chicken, Vampiric Game of Thrones . Or even a new blood line of vampires from the daedric lord from Morrowind or somewhere else