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Soulslayerzx

Can't Kill Processes in Windows 7

One thing for sure about Windows XP that was better than 7 is killing processes and ending tasks. Back in windows xp, you can end any process immediately no matter how much ram an application used or how fucked up shit was. The end process thing in the task manager is like the ultimate task killer and last resort. Here in 7, it no longer is. If I have an application using up a lot of ram or just being a big program. Eventually, it freezes causing some lag since it's a hanging process and windows thinks the program is still running even when sometimes you can end the process in task manager. Certain things like Skyrim, L4D, Creation Kit do this. In Creation Kit, if I'm in Tamriel for over 30 minutes,I can check the task manager and see that it's using over 1gb of ram and then it's stuck. I can right click, end process or end process tree, nothing happens. The ultimate hanging process bug in windows 7. I've googled this hundreds of times too, the force kill or task kill commands from the cmd prompt doesn't work. Those applications written by some people don't work either. Anyone else have this issue in windows 7?

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I have Win 7 64bit,6gb ram dual processor and also have noticed that when I play Oblivion,over time loading and traveling from cells seem to get longer over time (save game bloat isn't the issue)while teleporting goes as normal.I also was having my comp hang shortly after

start up but discovered that either win update or my wife installed

a fragmented Windows Defender that was causing that issue.I already had firewall and antivirus protection.

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Hmm. I'll try defragging my harddrive, never done that on this laptop. lol.

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One thing on oblivion or any other Bethesda game is to move or delete your saved games. Keep only between 20-50 at anyone time in your saves folder. You can create a subfolder inside your save game folder and move them there if you don't want to delete them. This will eliminate any lag as you save or load games for Bethesda products (skyrim handles this a little better than all the others but I noticed it slowing down on saves around 250 or so).

Soulslayerx, that is really weird that you can't end the process in task manager. I am running the 64bit version of Win7 and I can force an end process on darn near anything. You might scan your computer for viruses/malware as those are coded to be resistant to being easily turned off.

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Hmm. I'm pretty sure there's no viruses it's been like this since I bought the laptop. If you google this, it's massive problem for many users. Damn, but yea I'll see if I can reduce the # of save files.

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Well, the other thing that it could be is an update being installed that has a memory leak. I turn auto updates off the moment I install windows! If it is not broke...don't fix it! I have seen this too many damn times be it operating systems or games or even drivers. I rarely go for the latest one until it has been tested both by large amounts of people and a good amount of time.

You might just keep an eye out on google or the microsoft windows 7 updates pages to see if they find/found the issue.

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It's a dumb question but are you actually Administrator? You need to be Administrator or better to kill a process properly if you don't own it.

In WindowsXP, it's possible to become better than Administrator - System. That can kill anything. Might have eliminated that bug in Windows7. After all, it isn't your o/s to do with as you will anymore.

That's why I prefer Unix. If I become root I CAN do anything, no matter how stupid!

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Windows indexing service is a huge resource hog when you have a lot of data on your hard drive.You can turn it off in properties when you click on your main drive all it does is make searches quicker so its safe to turn off. If you open the task manager and then go to performance and then resource manager you can see what programs are using the most memory, indexing service was right under steam before I turned it off. Also i use the 4gb patch for oblivion it seemed to help me(oblivion is limited to 2gb by default)

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Windows7 defrags by default if you leave your computer on at night and will even avoid defragging SSD and flash drives.

Windows Indexing has been deprecated in Win7, so it should not be running by default anymore.

Cool about Unix, but can you play these games in Unix?

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I got to disagree with the OP when i ran windows XP most shit crashed like a motha****er (Fallout 3 ofc) and had to restart my whole PC sometimes, it seems Windows 7 forces a different screen and than you can open the task manager which seems to work fine for me! it does happen to be that it most of the times is not needed to kill the exe but will search for a "problem"

But i any case iam running Win7 premium 32-bit

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Never had a problem killing processes in Windows 7 they cut out right away :s You guys do know you can access task manager with ctrl + shift + Esc right? Without going to the security screen when you hit Ctrl + Alt + Del.

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No i didn't knew! haha but iam not much of a person that uses shortcut... but now i feel like a grandma using a PC

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