And i screwed up oblivion again

[bdumbly1]

Well i moved to a new labtop recently. all was working well until i installed multiple different encahntments and magic enhancments mods....at the same time. I now realize that was stupid. I got a CTD whenever going to to the enchantment menu and clicking on an enchantment. I then downloaded Archiveinvalidation Invalditatior or whatever it's called to try and help. Well now I CTD on start up.... lovely right? i've deactivated and reactivated every mod on my list except MBP++ Omod because it takes Forever! to reinstall. Any help would be appreciated i'll link my load order in a spoiler below.

Oblivion.esm

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm

CM Partners.esm

Toaster Says Share v3.esm

x117race.esm

Chanpon.esm

HorseCombatMaster.esm

X.Dryads.GotF.esm

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp

USIPS Additional Changes.esp

Natural_Weather_by_Max_Tael.esp

Natural_Weather_HDR_by_Max_Tael.esp

Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp

Enhanced Water v2.0 ND.esp

Enhanced Water v2.0 HD.esp

Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp

Book Jackets Oblivion.esp

Book Jackets Oblivion - BP.esp

More Effective Enchantments.esp

P1DseeYouSleep.esp

DropLitTorchOBSE.esp

Get Wet v0.92.esp

DLCHorseArmor.esp

DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCOrrery.esp

DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCVileLair.esp

DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCSpellTomes.esp

DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp

MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp

Pauldron.esp

Slof's Boners! v5.esp

wands.esp

Robert SinfulMage.esp

DLCThievesDen.esp

DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp

allinonebasement.esp

ArcaneBankofCyrodiil.esp

Slof's Oblivion Goth Shop.esp

za_bankmod.esp

DLCBattlehornCastle.esp

DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCFrostcrag.esp

DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp

Knights.esp

Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp

More Effective Enchantments Knights.esp

xuldarkforest.esp

xulStendarrValley.esp

xulTheHeath.esp

XulEntiusGorge.esp

xulFallenleafEverglade.esp

xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp

xulChorrolHinterland.esp

xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp

xulBravilBarrowfields.esp

xulLushWoodlands.esp

xulAncientYews.esp

xulAncientRedwoods.esp

xulCloudtopMountains.esp

xulArriusCreek.esp

xulPatch_AY_AC.esp

xulRollingHills_EV_withoutWheat.esp

xulPantherRiver.esp

xulRiverEthe.esp

xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp

xulImperialIsle.esp

xulBlackwoodForest.esp

xulCheydinhalFalls.esp

xulAspenWood.esp

xulSkingradOutskirts.esp

xulSnowdale.esp

xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp

xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp

xulJerallGlacier.esp

xulTheEasternPeaks.esp

Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp

Leviathan Soulgems.esp

Oblivion - Soulgems.esp

SupremeMagicka.esp

SM_ShiveringIsles.esp

SM_DLCSpellTome.esp

SM_EnchantStaff.esp

MidasSpells.esp

AK- Midas Spellswap.esp

Spell Ranks.esp

RenGuardOverhaul.esp

Enchanted Hands.esp

Deadly Reflex 6 - Timed Block with no damage or durability changes.esp

Deadly Reflex 6 - Timed block and 150% damage.esp

Deadly Reflex 6 - Timed Block and 250% damage.esp

Mounted_Spellcasting_Deadly_Reflex_Compatible.esp

Oblivion XP.esp

zzEstrus.esp

CM Partners.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable BandBlindMask.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Sheogorath Eye.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged RoseSims Hair Modules.esp

x117 Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed CustomRace.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Chocolate Elves.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Ashara's Sirens and Tritons.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Cute Elves.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Nec Mystic High Elf Remake.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed ENG Race.esp

x117race.esp

x117Race ENG Race.esp

Lop-ears Elf.esp

TSS Custom Companion Template.esp

Toaster Says Share Faction Recruitment.esp

CM Partners NPC.esp

CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp

Alternate Start Revamped.esp

DeadlyReflex 6 - Combat Moves.esp

Deadly Reflex 6 - HeX NifSE Patch.esp

SM_DeadlyReflex.esp

Bashed Patch, 0.esp

DiabloEF 6 in 1.esp

Lop-ears Elf_mini.esp

Nudeshy X.esp

nudeshyceadb.esp

nudeshynudejail.esp

NOAH - Remove Cloud Effect.esp

NOAH.esp

PPSpellsword.esp

Slof's Goth Shop 3.esp

HP Spells.esp

Mighty Enchants.esp

[bdumbly1]

Annnnnddddd you can close this thread. i really am an idiot. like seriously. i forgot to deactivate the book jacket .esp that requires a .esm i don't have or need. If anyone can tell me what the problem with the enchanting is i'd love to hear it. When i created a new ini it worked fine. however it still crashes with the original ini.

Thanks for all the help and sorry for the inconvience

[gregathit]

1. You can't install multiple magic mods and expect them to work. They will conflict with one another. Either stick with Supreme Magicka or find one that you like and dump the rest. Otherwise you risk having them conflict with one another and not work at all.

2. Also have you used BOSS to sort your load order?

3. Move all of the plugins that you have below your bashed patch up above it. Then rebuild your bashed patch.

4. Go through your entire load order and remove all duplicates:

Deadly Reflex 6 - Timed Block with no damage or durability changes.esp

Deadly Reflex 6 - Timed block and 150% damage.esp

Deadly Reflex 6 - Timed Block and 250% damage.esp

Come on, I know that you know better than to use all three of these. You can only pick one.

and

Enhanced Water v2.0 ND.esp <---again, aren't you only supposed to pick one?

Enhanced Water v2.0 HD.esp

Make sure you don't have any more stuff like this as it will kill your game.

The only plugins that should be below your bashed patch are:

SM_DeadlyReflex.esp <---read the read me to see where this needs to go

Bashed Patch, 0.esp

DeadlyReflex 6 - Combat Moves.esp

Deadly Reflex 6 - HeX NifSE Patch.esp

And lastly, put the mpb stuff into your bashed patch. They are supposed to be merged into it. Click on the spoiler in this thread to see which MBP files should be merged into the bashed patch: http://www.loverslab.com/showthread.php?tid=6133

Cheers,

Greg

[Symon]

As an aside, you can run SM and LAME together. You even have a choice as to loading LAME 'dominant' or SM and there are compatibility plugins.

BUT you need to read and understand the LAME (and SM) documentation.

[bdumbly1]

lol yeah i guess i kinda screwed up with these huh? In my haste to insall deadly reflex i missed a few things. Rookie mistake lol. I just figured since it was OMOD install it would take care of itself. *Facepalm* Anyway if i could borrow you for a few more minutes. I'm currently generating an OMOD of OOO but when that's done i'll post my load order here. Can you take a peek at it and tell me if i missed and screw ups? Cause i disable the magic mods and i'm still Crashing when clicking on any spell or enchantment in the spell creation and enchanting menus. Thanks

Edit: Forgot to mention. You probably won't see Lovers in this load order anytime soon. I've got it on my other computer and it works fine there. This one is more for Skyrim with a few things in oblivion my other computer couldn't handle.

[bdumbly1]

Ok heres the load order

Oblivion.esm

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm

Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm

CM Partners.esm

Toaster Says Share v3.esm

x117race.esm

Chanpon.esm

HorseCombatMaster.esm

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp

USIPS Additional Changes.esp

Natural_Weather_by_Max_Tael.esp

Natural_Weather_HDR_by_Max_Tael.esp

Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp

Enhanced Water v2.0 ND.esp

Enhanced Water v2.0 HD.esp

Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp

Arena Ring.esp

Book Jackets Oblivion.esp

P1DseeYouSleep.esp

Living Economy.esp

Living Economy - Items.esp

DropLitTorchOBSE.esp

Get Wet v0.92.esp

DLCHorseArmor.esp

DLCOrrery.esp

DLCVileLair.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

DLCSpellTomes.esp

MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp

Pauldron.esp

Slof's Boners! v5.esp

wands.esp

DLCThievesDen.esp

Slof's Oblivion Robe Trader.esp

Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp

OOO-DLT_Remover.esp

allinonebasement.esp

ArcaneBankofCyrodiil.esp

Slof's Oblivion Goth Shop.esp

za_bankmod.esp

DLCBattlehornCastle.esp

DLCFrostcrag.esp

Knights.esp

xuldarkforest.esp

xulStendarrValley.esp

xulTheHeath.esp

XulEntiusGorge.esp

xulFallenleafEverglade.esp

xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp

xulChorrolHinterland.esp

xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp

xulBravilBarrowfields.esp

xulLushWoodlands.esp

xulAncientYews.esp

xulAncientRedwoods.esp

xulCloudtopMountains.esp

xulArriusCreek.esp

xulPatch_AY_AC.esp

xulRollingHills_EV_withoutWheat.esp

xulPantherRiver.esp

xulRiverEthe.esp

xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp

xulImperialIsle.esp

xulBlackwoodForest.esp

xulCheydinhalFalls.esp

xulAspenWood.esp

xulSkingradOutskirts.esp

xulSnowdale.esp

xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp

xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp

xulJerallGlacier.esp

xulTheEasternPeaks.esp

Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp

Harvest [Flora].esp

Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp

Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp

Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp

MidasSpells.esp

AK- Midas Spellswap.esp

RenGuardOverhaul.esp

Enchanted Hands.esp

Deadly Reflex 6 - Timed Block with no damage or durability changes.esp

Mounted_Spellcasting_Deadly_Reflex_Compatible.esp

DRSplatter.esp

Oblivion XP.esp

zzEstrus.esp

CM Partners.esp

DiabloEF 6 in 1.esp

Lop-ears Elf_mini.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable BandBlindMask.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Sheogorath Eye.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged RoseSims Hair Modules.esp

x117 Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed CustomRace.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Chocolate Elves.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Ashara's Sirens and Tritons.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Cute Elves.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Nec Mystic High Elf Remake.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed ENG Race.esp

x117race.esp

x117Race ENG Race.esp

Lop-ears Elf.esp

TSS Custom Companion Template.esp

Toaster Says Share Faction Recruitment.esp

CM Partners NPC.esp

CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp

KT_CustomRaceFix.esp

OOO-Magic_Script_Effect_Fix.esp

Nudeshy X.esp

nudeshyceadb.esp

nudeshynudejail.esp

NOAH - Remove Cloud Effect.esp

NOAH.esp

Slof's Goth Shop 3.esp

HP Spells.esp

ArenaLootAllow v1.2.esp

DremoraArmorAllow v1.1.esp

LootAllowBlades+Emperor+Extras.esp

PalaceGuard+EmperorArmorLoot v1.0.1.esp

ShiveringIslesArmorAllow v1.1.esp

00CrimsonWings.esp

TrapRace.esp

DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp

Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp

LGD's Arena Enhanced.esp

Bashed Patch, 0.esp

DeadlyReflex 6 - Combat Moves.esp

Deadly Reflex 6 - HeX NifSE Patch.esp

I used boss to do is then dropped the bashed patch and the two deadly reflex's. Still getting CTD on enchanting and spell making menus.

[gregathit]

Well, you are getting closers but you still have some redundant stuff:

KT_CustomRaceFix.esp <---this is included in UOP so disable and delete it.

Pick one or the other:

Lop-ears Elf_mini.esp

Lop-ears Elf.esp <---since this one is currently below the other in your load order it basically is canceling it out which makes it a wasted esp slot.

I recommend you disable these immediately:

TSS Custom Companion Template.esp

Toaster Says Share Faction Recruitment.esp

You already have CM Partners which is not all that great but it is miles better the companion share and recruitment. You can leave Toaster Says Share v3.esm enabled as it will allow you to access the inventories of other npc's to swap out clothes and armor if you do that sort of thing. You have to raise their disposition to a certain point to do it remember!

Move all of your unofficial patches up to be just under the actual thing they are patching. If you ran BOSS it "should" have done that for you. If not then do it manually. By having them on the bottom they are overriding any changes you might be trying to make.

Pretty sure you have these two reversed:

NOAH - Remove Cloud Effect.esp

NOAH.esp <---this probably should be up above the cloud effect one as generally patches should go below what they are patching.

DRSplatter.esp <---I know this is a cool feature but it is buggy as shit. Keep an eye on it and if it gives you too much trouble...disable it.

Mounted_Spellcasting_Deadly_Reflex_Compatible.esp <---again this is buggy as shit. I recommend keeping an eye on it and disabling it if it acts up. Mounted combat is something you really should avoid in Oblivion. It doesn't work very well and is a crash fest.

Make sure these two are down just above your bashed patch:

MidasSpells.esp

AK- Midas Spellswap.esp

Make sure Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp is below all official dlc and the UOP patches or you will have problems.

After doing the above be sure to rebuild your bashed patch and try a new game to see if that helps you stabilize things.

[bdumbly1]

Ok so. Trying to rebuild my bash patch after doing all this. And here's what comes up

Please ensure Wrye Bash is correctly installed.

Traceback (most recent call last):

File "bash\bash.pyo", line 362, in main

File "bash\bosh.pyo", line 31163, in initBosh

File "bash\bosh.pyo", line 30965, in initDirs

File "bash\bosh.pyo", line 6260, in __init__

File "bash\bapi.pyo", line 173, in Init

ValueError: symbol 'BOSS_API_ERROR_MASTER_TIME_READ_FAIL' not found

No idea...what's going on....at all....it worked before this i know it did cause i rebuilt it earlier today.

[gregathit]

Try restarting your computer. Wrye can sometimes freak out with its python scripts.

[bdumbly1]

alright i'll go do that. Also could any of my mods recently installed like OOO or Unholy Darkness screw with Owyns face. the Arena guy. He has his eyes and part of his hair. And i can see his neck and body. But his face is gone >.<

Edit: Also rememberd i installed LGD's Arena enhancement ontop of OOO. Would that conflict?

[bdumbly1]

Ok so wrye bash is not fixed after restart. Should i uninstall it and reinstall? I use it for both oblivion AND skyrim and BOTH don't work. If i do reinstall what will happen to the bashed patch etc...

[gregathit]

Probably nothing will happen to it. Even if something does, it really doesn't matter does it? It is screwed up and needs to be redone. If you "really" want to make sure you keep it just make a copy of it outside your MOPY folder.

[bdumbly1]

ok i'm reinstalling it now. You said something earlier about merging MBP using wryebash. Can you tell me how to do it. I merge the race records and other things but theres still alot of esps. Not sure if their suppossed to lesson or not. Hopefully rebulding the bash patch will fix my CTD issues.

EDIT: We are now successfull with using Wryebash. I'll tell you in 5 minutes how the enchanting goes.

EDIT2: Ok so that took a while. Wryebash was being a bitch. Installed it 3 times and now it shows up . Rebuilding Bash patch now.

[gregathit]

If you look here in this thread's spoiler you will see all the MBP stuff that should be merged into your bashed patch and then left disabled.

hint look for the RED items....

[bdumbly1]

still CTDing Damn it

[gregathit]

Are you starting a new game? What is your current load order?

[bdumbly1]

Are you starting a new game? What is your current load order?

Load order is as follows

Oblivion.esm

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm

Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm

CM Partners.esm

Toaster Says Share v3.esm

x117race.esm

Chanpon.esm

HorseCombatMaster.esm

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp

USIPS Additional Changes.esp

Natural_Weather_by_Max_Tael.esp

Natural_Weather_HDR_by_Max_Tael.esp

Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp

Enhanced Water v2.0 HD.esp

Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp

Arena Ring.esp

Book Jackets Oblivion.esp

Living Economy.esp

Living Economy - Items.esp

DropLitTorchOBSE.esp

Get Wet v0.92.esp

DLCHorseArmor.esp

DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCOrrery.esp

DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCVileLair.esp

DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCSpellTomes.esp

DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCThievesDen.esp

DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp

DLCBattlehornCastle.esp

DLCFrostcrag.esp

DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp

MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp

Pauldron.esp

Slof's Boners! v5.esp

wands.esp

Slof's Oblivion Robe Trader.esp

Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp

OOO-DLT_Remover.esp

allinonebasement.esp

ArcaneBankofCyrodiil.esp

Slof's Oblivion Goth Shop.esp

za_bankmod.esp

Knights.esp

Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp

xuldarkforest.esp

xulStendarrValley.esp

xulTheHeath.esp

XulEntiusGorge.esp

xulFallenleafEverglade.esp

xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp

xulChorrolHinterland.esp

xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp

xulBravilBarrowfields.esp

xulLushWoodlands.esp

xulAncientYews.esp

xulAncientRedwoods.esp

xulCloudtopMountains.esp

xulArriusCreek.esp

xulPatch_AY_AC.esp

xulRollingHills_EV_withoutWheat.esp

xulPantherRiver.esp

xulRiverEthe.esp

xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp

xulImperialIsle.esp

xulBlackwoodForest.esp

xulCheydinhalFalls.esp

xulAspenWood.esp

xulSkingradOutskirts.esp

xulSnowdale.esp

xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp

xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp

xulJerallGlacier.esp

xulTheEasternPeaks.esp

Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp

Harvest [Flora].esp

Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp

Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp

Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp

RenGuardOverhaul.esp

Deadly Reflex 6 - Timed Block with no damage or durability changes.esp

Mounted_Spellcasting_Deadly_Reflex_Compatible.esp

DRSplatter.esp

Oblivion XP.esp

zzEstrus.esp

CM Partners.esp

Lop-ears Elf.esp

Lop-ears Elf_mini.esp

DiabloEF 6 in 1.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable BandBlindMask.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Sheogorath Eye.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged RoseSims Hair Modules.esp

x117 Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed CustomRace.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Chocolate Elves.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Ashara's Sirens and Tritons.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Cute Elves.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Nec Mystic High Elf Remake.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed ENG Race.esp

x117race.esp

x117Race ENG Race.esp

CM Partners NPC.esp

CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp

OOO-Magic_Script_Effect_Fix.esp

Nudeshy X.esp

nudeshyceadb.esp

nudeshynudejail.esp

NOAH.esp

NOAH - Remove Cloud Effect.esp

Slof's Goth Shop 3.esp

HP Spells.esp

ArenaLootAllow v1.2.esp

DremoraArmorAllow v1.1.esp

LootAllowBlades+Emperor+Extras.esp

PalaceGuard+EmperorArmorLoot v1.0.1.esp

ShiveringIslesArmorAllow v1.1.esp

00CrimsonWings.esp

TrapRace.esp

DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp

LGD's Arena Enhanced.esp

See You Sleep DLL.esp

See You Sleep DLL - Vampire Bedroll Anims.esp

See You Sleep DLL - DLCVileLair.esp

IanCM2.esp

tkHairPack01.esp

The Well of Lost Souls.esp

SylarCMPartnerESP.esp

Unholy Darkness.esp

MidasSpells.esp

AK- Midas Spellswap.esp

Bashed Patch' date=' 0.esp

DeadlyReflex 6 - Combat Moves.esp

Deadly Reflex 6 - HeX NifSE Patch.esp

[/spoiler']

I started a new game earlier today however i haven't since makin the changes to the load order and bash patch.

[bdumbly1]

just started a new game and tested it. Still CTDing at enchanting menu. >.< Thanks for the help so far greg I really do appreciate it!

[gregathit]

Still have one duplicate - Pick only one of these:

Lop-ears Elf.esp

Lop-ears Elf_mini.esp

Move: DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp up to just under the official dlc.

Did you look to see if this is a patch or replacement:

NOAH.esp

NOAH - Remove Cloud Effect.esp <----sometimes these are patches that are fine like this. Sometimes they are replacements that you use only one. I am not familiar with this mod so just double check the read me to make sure what it is.

Now that you are using wrye bash you "could" get rid of these:

DremoraArmorAllow v1.1.esp

LootAllowBlades+Emperor+Extras.esp

PalaceGuard+EmperorArmorLoot v1.0.1.esp

ShiveringIslesArmorAllow v1.1.esp

There is a box you can check while rebuilding your bashed patch to allow you to grab all unplayable armors.

If you decide to keep using them just double check that having both of these is ok since both mention the emporor:

LootAllowBlades+Emperor+Extras.esp

PalaceGuard+EmperorArmorLoot v1.0.1.esp

Not sure what this is: za_bankmod.esp but make sure it doesn't conflict with ArcaneBankofCyrodiil.esp

Are you supposed to be using both of these at the same time:

Slof's Oblivion Goth Shop.esp

Slof's Goth Shop 3.esp

Not really sure what you are doing on this one:

DropLitTorchOBSE.esp

OOO-DLT_Remover.esp

Are you intentionally trying not to use DLT that is included in OOO in preference to DLTOBSE? Is there even any difference in the two? I would think that you could get rid of both plugins and just use the DLT feature built into OOO. Perhaps there is something specific you are trying to do that I am not aware of.

Unfortunately doing some of the above will result in yet another rebuilding of your bashed patch.... The good news is you should be seeing the light at the end of the tunnel at this point.

[bdumbly1]

lol....LMAO i'm laughing my ass off over here at how badly i fucked some of this up....at this point if this doesn't workm i'm just gonna delete my oblivion ini and make a new one. As far as drop lit torches gooes. I didn't know OOO had them in there when i installed it. So i had the original OBSE long before OOO. The slofs goth shop are perfectly fine together. she never ade a shop for the third one it's all in the testinghall. as far as the allow armor stuff idk where it came from. My guess is OOO. i just checked the NOAH file and the remove cloud effect removes what some people call *annoying* effects. So now that i read that i'm going to go disable that .esp. And with the DLCBattheborn-UP i couldn't find it yesterday lmao. It was gone from my OBMM list.I found it now and just moved it up.

The za.bank mod is...well it's another bank mod in the IC marketplace. I should just disable both of them because za sucks (my opinion) and i never use the arcane. So....i'll go do that now. then i'll rebuild my bash.

Also two more things. 1. Should i post my oblivion.ini here? cause when i deleted it that one time and made a new one the enchanting menu worked again (sorry i forgot this detail until today).

2. On a completetly unrelated note. Have you ever used the Unholy Darkness mod? Cause i made my follower a vampire and i can't figure out how to get him to feed. or to mask his vampiric nature. It's quite annoying if i do say so myself.

Thank you for the help

P.s. This has GOT to be my LONGEST post EVER in the History of Loverslab.com XD

[gregathit]

I did play the Unholy mod but it was a long time ago. I don't think you can "make" npc's feed. You would need some type of plugin that contained a script to tell them how to do and when. I think the whole feeding thing is only specifically scripted for the player character. At least I have never seen a companion mod with it built in anyway....sorry.

Posting your oblivion.ini probably won't help anything. You can have the game generate a new one and it does sometimes cure things. The only downside is if you have any UI mods (like DarnUI) you generally have to reinstall them, plus you have to go back in and reinstall your custom tweaks. However, sometimes things get so screwed up that it is a needed deal. Try everything else and make a backup of it before deleting it.......just in case.....

[bdumbly1]

Alright well i fixed it . I did have to delete the ini. It was just to badly damaged.

I got one more question that i hope you cna help me with. Not dealing with oblivion but skyrim.

Just got the new DLC (Finally) However i noticed it's riddled with bugs......

Ok seriously a spoiler if you haven't played the vamp questline.

I tried to use vampiric seduction and it originally didn't work at all. I make a new save and get it work. Now i can't feed on him. Alot of ppl on the PC seem to be having this bug even if they turn of all their mods.

Not sure if you have any tips. I have the unofficial Dawnguard and Unofficial Skyrim patches.

[gregathit]

Well, I can't help you on that one. You might try posting in the Skyrim section. I completed the DLC but I sided with the Dawnguard as I really hate vampires. Watched too much Buffy and Blade.......

I too have heard of the many bugs, although most seem to occur if you join the Vamp side. I had zero bugs siding with the Dawnguard and I don't use either of the unofficial patches (nor will I until all the dlc is out and the patches stop coming out from Bethesada....each dlc\patch can often break things with the unofficial patches, which in turn may break the game). Best bet is to look to see if there is an update to the unofficial patches or possibly disable them to see if that helps.