Oblivion - Dynamic Leveled List

[Nepro]

Problem: Oblivion freezes when loading the mods before getting into main menu

Solution: Use Wrye Bash 295 (version 295). Dynamic Leveled List doesn't work with Bash Patch that comes from Wrye Bash 295.

I did everything according to installation instructions, but the game won't even load to the main menu. It freezes when it loads the mods.

Active Mod Files:

00 Oblivion.esm
01 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm
02 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm [Version 5.0]
03 Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm [Version 5.0]
04 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.35Beta]
05 Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.8b1]
06 TamrielTravellers.esm [Version 1.39c]
07 FCOM_Convergence.esm [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]
08 Armamentarium.esm [Version 1.35]
09 Artifacts.esm [Version 1.1]
0A Lovers with PK.esm
0B TamagoClub.esm
0C HiyokoClub.esm
0D LoversCreature.esm
0E x117race.esm
0F HorseCombatMaster.esm
10 Oblivifall Master File.esm [Version 1.2]
11 YoungerHotterNPCwithPussies.esp
12 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.4.2]
++ Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
13 DLCShiveringIsles.esp
14 Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.5.1]
15 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp [Version 5.0]
16 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp [Version 5.0]
17 Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp [Version 5.0]
18 Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp [Version 5.0]
++ FCOM_Francescos.esp [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]
++ FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]
19 FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]
1A Idle Dialogue.esp [Version 1.3]
1B Guiding Beacons.esp
1C Portable Campsite.esp
1D Enhanced Economy.esp [Version 5.4.3]
1E Populated Prisons.esp
1F FormID Finder4.esp
20 Purge Cell Buffers - Loading.esp [Version 1.0.0]
21 Quest Log Manager.esp [Version 1.3.2]
22 Dynamic Map.esp [Version 2.1.1]
23 Map Marker Overhaul.esp [Version 3.9.3]
24 Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp [Version 3.9.3]
25 Enhanced Hotkeys.esp [Version 2.3.1]
26 DLCHorseArmor.esp
27 DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.7]
28 DLCOrrery.esp
29 DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]
** DLCOrrery Vwalk.esp
2A DLCVileLair.esp
2B DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.8]
2C DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
2D DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.6]
** DLCMehrunesRazor Vwalk.esp
2E DLCSpellTomes.esp
++ DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1]
++ MaleBodyReplacer.esp
2F Crossbows of Cyrodiil.esp
30 M.O.E. - New Staffs, Blight and Ashstorms.esp [Version 2]
++ M.O.E. - Unlocked Dremora Armour and Robes.esp [Version 1]
** DMRA BBB Armamentarium Complete.esp
31 DLCThievesDen.esp
32 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.11]
33 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp [Version 1.0.11]
** DLCThievesDen Vwalk.esp
34 Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp
35 FCOM_BobsArmory.esp [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]
36 Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp
++ FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp [Version 0.9.9]
37 Oblivion WarCry EV.esp [Version 1.09]
38 FCOM_WarCry.esp [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]
39 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.35Beta]
++ OOO-No_Guild_Ownership.esp [Version 1.33]
3A OOO-Magic_Game_Settings.esp [Version 1.33]
++ OOO-ThiefGuild_Difficult.esp [Version 1.33]
++ OOO-Container_Trap_Instant_Effects.esp [Version 1.33]
** Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul Vwalk.esp
** OMOBS_SI.esp [Version 2.0]
3B ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp [Version 1.35]
3C FCOM_Convergence.esp [Version 0.9.9Mb8b1]
++ FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp [Version 0.9.9beta2]
3D FCOM_RealSwords.esp [Version 0.9.9MB8]
3E Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp [Version 3.8b1]
++ FCOM_SaferRoads.esp [Version 0.9.9]
3F Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp [Version 3.8b1]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp [Version 3.8b1]
40 Mart's Monster Mod - Zombies for Body Meshes.esp [Version 3.8b1]
41 Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Quest Locations.esp [Version 3.8b1]
42 Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp [Version 3.8b1]
43 Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp [Version 3.7b7]
44 Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp [Version 3.8b1]
45 Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp [Version 3.8b1]
46 TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp [Version 1.39c]
** TamrielTravellers4OOO Vwalk.esp
++ TamrielTravellersItemsnpc.esp [Version 1.39c]
++ TamrielTravellersItemsVendor.esp [Version 1.39c]
47 ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp [Version 1.39c]
** ShiveringIsleTravellers Vwalk.esp
++ ShiveringIsleTravellersFriendlyFactions.esp [Version 1.39c]
++ FCOM_TamrielTravelers.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp [Version 0.9.9]
** FCOM_Archery.esp [Version 0.9.9]
** FCOM_FriendlierFactions.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ MMM4OOO&FCOM- Slofs Horse & DLC Armor.esp
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.8b1]
++ ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp [Version 2.01]
++ ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp [Version 1.35]
48 Artifacts.esp [Version 1.1]
++ Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp [Version 1.0]
** DMRA BBB Artifacts Complete.esp
49 Gaenor in Dementia.esp [Version 1]
4A Jail Break Escape Routes.esp
4B LetThePeopleDrink.esp [Version 2.6]
4C M.O.E. - Tools of Kagrenac - The Secret of White Gold Tower.esp [Version 6]
4D M.O.E. - The Black Sacrament - Night Mother's Ritual.esp [Version 2]
++ OldwolfLifeLikeStatues.esp
++ Shady Sam Enhanced.esp
4E SRJmarasProtection.esp
4F The Siren's Deception.esp
50 innquest.esp
51 Cyrodiil Travel Services.esp [Version 3.0.5]
** Cyrodiil Travel Services Vwalk.esp
52 boat ride.esp
53 za_bankmod.esp
54 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
55 DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.8]
56 DLCFrostcrag.esp
57 DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.7]
** DLCFrostcrag Vwalk.esp
58 Knights.esp
59 Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.1.2]
++ DMRA BBB Knights of the Nine Replacer.esp
** Knights Vwalk.esp
5A M.O.E. - Main Quest Delayer.esp [Version 3]
** DLC_MOBS.esp
5B MannimarcoComplete.esp
5C Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp [Version 3.8b1]
++ FCOM_Knights.esp [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]
5D Oblivifall - Losing My Religion.esp [Version 1.43]
5E Oblivifall - Losing My Religion KOTN.esp [Version 1.0]
5F Banes Guilds UnitedOOO.esp
60 CoverYourself.esp
61 LadyDeath_DMRA.esp
62 HUD Status Bars.esp [Version 5.3.2]
63 GoldCoinBagger.esp
64 M.O.E. - Lycanthropy and Lichcraft.esp [Version 7]
65 Nephs Unique Thievery.esp
66 P1DkeyChain.esp [Version 5.00]
67 RenCorpseMod.esp
68 LoversTamagoClub.esp
69 LoversEncounter.esp
6A HiyokoGenetics.esp
6B HiyokoGenerator.esp
6C HiyokoGeneratorCreature.esp
6D LoversAdultYield.esp
6E LoversSoundCreature.esp [Version 0.1.0]
6F LoversFSE.esp
70 LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp
71 LoversHooker.esp [Version 2.2]
72 LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP_HookerPatch.esp
73 LoversRaperS.esp
74 LoversOverhaul.esp
75 LoversJoburg.esp
76 LoversBed.esp
77 LoversImmoralGuards.esp
78 LoversPayBandit.esp
79 666_Modified_Contraception_esp_1_0.esp
7A Lovers with PK.esp [Version 94]
7B LoversCreature.esp
** LoversCreature_SexualOrgans.esp
** LoversCreature_SexualOrgans_Dogs.esp
7C LoversSkirtFlipper.esp
7D LoversStopCombatEx.esp
7E LoversSpermSplashEx.esp
7F LoversEscapeRapeVPlayer.esp
80 LoversTrueCrimeEx.esp
81 PlayerSlaveEncounters.esp
82 LoversHVirus.esp
83 Nudeshy X.esp
84 nudeshyceadb.esp [Version 2.8.2]
85 Basic Primary Needs.esp [Version 6.1]
86 Basic Personal Hygiene.esp [Version 2.5]
87 Nekhanimal's Awesome Vampire Mod.esp
88 M.O.E. - Mythic Dawn Powers.esp [Version 1]
89 M.O.E. - Teleportation Magic and Icarian Flight.esp [Version 2]
8A MadCompanionshipSpells.esp [Version 2.5]
8B MCS extension.esp
8C Resurrect.esp
8D SetBody.esp
8E AutoSetBody.esp
8F Real Time Lockpicking Minigames.esp
90 SM Bounty.esp [Version 1.22c]
91 RenGuardOverhaul.esp
92 TRN One of the Gang.esp
93 Death No More v102.esp
94 Enhanced Grabbing.esp [Version 0.5]
95 Deadly Reflex 6 - Timed Block with no damage or durability changes.esp
96 Mounted_Spellcasting_Deadly_Reflex_Compatible.esp
97 Duke Patricks - Near Miss Magic And Arrows Alert The Target.esp [Version 7.1]
98 Duke Patricks - Actors Can Miss Now.esp
++ OOO-Level_Slow.esp [Version 1.33]
++ Specialanims.esp
++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable BandBlindMask.esp
** Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Sheogorath Eye.esp
++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp
++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp
++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp
++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp
++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged RoseSims Hair Modules.esp
++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Chocolate Elves.esp
++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed CustomRace.esp
++ x117 Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp
++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Cute Elves.esp
99 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp
++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Nec Mystic High Elf Remake.esp
++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed ENG Dialog.esp
++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed ENG Race.esp
++ x117Race ENG Race.esp
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp [Version 3.8b1]
9A pussyfur.esp
9B VailenaCompanionValeria.esp
9C Uruk-hai Raiding Parties.esp
9D UVII.esp
9E DeadlyReflex 6 - Combat Moves.esp
++ Deadly Reflex 6 - HeX NifSE Patch.esp
** Sensual Walks.esp
** Sensual Walks SI.esp
** Sensual Walks SI DS + GS.esp
9F TT-EquipableBeardsLEVELEDLIST.esp
++ DMRA BBB Complete Clothing and Armor Replacer.esp
++ Oblivifall - Female Armors.esp [Version 2.1]
A0 Bashed Patch, 0.esp
A1 FCOM_MOECaptainRenaultArmor.esp
A2 M.O.E. - Playable Scythe.esp [Version 2]
A3 Adjusted Armors for DMRA BBB.esp
A4 Ahtata Arquamer female got hair.esp
A5 BetterOrcs v1.02(Old skin&smallTeeth).esp
A6 LoversMB2.esp
A7 Lovers3dorgasmMB2.esp
A8 LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp
A9 LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp
AA DynamicLeveledLists.esp

It is weird because last time I was playing Oblivion with roughly same amount of mods DLL worked all fine.

[Kashiwaba Tomoe]

You using Oblivion mod manager ?

Run the conflict detector, has saved me so many hours of strife.

[Nepro]

Umm... how do I run conflict detector? I can't see it in OBMM...

[Kashiwaba Tomoe]

Button right side, utilties, if I remember right.

[Nepro]

I ran conflict detector. The conflict's window disappears at the moment when the log fills with something unknown to my knowledge - it can be either error log or message detector didn't find anything.

[gregathit]

If you disable the dynamic leveled list esp can you start your game?

[Kashiwaba Tomoe]

I ran conflict detector. The conflict's window disappears at the moment when the log fills with something unknown to my knowledge - it can be either error log or message detector didn't find anything.

Then you are doing it wrong or it's broke.

[Nepro]

I ran conflict detector. The conflict's window disappears at the moment when the log fills with something unknown to my knowledge - it can be either error log or message detector didn't find anything.

Then you are doing it wrong or it's broke.

It's broke.

If you disable the dynamic leveled list esp can you start your game?

Yes. The game without DynamicLeveledLists.esp runs like newly bought bicycle. The game loads to main menu in less than 4 sec.

[gregathit]

Well, I don't use DLL so I am not sure that I can help too much but from reading the readme.txt it mentions that if you have some odd plugins installed that can corrupt the esp. Make certain also that you have updated your Java to the latest edition.

[Kashiwaba Tomoe]

It's broke.

Well there were two options.

That one is wrong.

Guess which it is .

[Nepro]

Well' date=' I don't use DLL so I am not sure that I can help too much but from reading the readme.txt it mentions that if you have some odd plugins installed that can corrupt the esp. Make certain also that you have updated your Java to the latest edition.

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Hell yeah! Grega you're master of the help.

I ticked some esp-s into omit rule while building the patch for DLL. I listed bunch of suspected esp-s and kamboom! For the first time the game loaded with DLL esp.

I will figure it out soon what corrupt esp do I have. Once I find that criminal I will list him here.

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Something's screwed up. I noticed that at the time I manage to run Oblivion with DLL my bash patch wasn't ticked in. DLL.esp didn't list bash patch as its master. Then I rebuilt the bash patch and all got mixed up. I still cannot run Oblivion with DLL esp :C

[sroro]

Not sure if this is useful at all but I personally haven't been able to use DLL with a bashed patch built with the latest version of Wrye bash. Not sure why that it is but w/e.

[Nepro]

Down grading the wrye bash could solve the problem? What if I used the bash patch file from the older version while keeping wrye bash in the current version?

[sroro]

Down grading the wrye bash could solve the problem? What if I used the bash patch file from the older version while keeping wrye bash in the current version?

You can do that, just don't rebuild with the current (if that is the problem). Last version one that worked for me was 295 from that I upgraded to 300 and it wouldn't take even with a fresh everything with just Creature Diversity, TIE and the game selected. Also, item interchange is broken in the newest one.

[Nepro]

Seems like the new version of Wrye Bash is the root of the problem.

I was also able to run Dynamic Leveled List mod with older version of Wrye Bash. I think I had 294 at the time I was using DLL and it worked with FCOM without any troubles.

[gregathit]

Wrye Bash 300 is a piece of crap. I don't know what happened with the Wrye Team but that version is almost as bad as NMM. Revert to an earlier version and you should be fine.

[Nepro]

Wrye Bash 300 is a piece of crap. I don't know what happened with the Wrye Team but that version is almost as bad as NMM. Revert to an earlier version and you should be fine.

The question is how to do it without messing anything up? I remember installing Wrye Bash was always pain in the ass.

[gregathit]

It shouldn't be a problem if you use the standalone installer. Now if you go and try to install each individual component, then yea, it sucks to do.

[Nepro]

Can someone make older version of Wrye Bash available? I need 295 version as sroro stated that was the last version on which DLL worked with bash patch.

On nexus they removed all older versions. :/

Looks like Wrye Team wants make all Wrye Bash users as crash dummy testers :?

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Okay I got it. Here it is http://sourceforge.net/projects/oblivionworks/files/Wrye%20Bash/Wrye%20Bash%20295/

The installer version will install all I need for me right?

Standalone version seems to be 'copy and paste' version.

[gregathit]

Can someone make older version of Wrye Bash available? I need 295 version as sroro stated that was the last version on which DLL worked with bash patch.

On nexus they removed all older versions. :/

Looks like Wrye Team wants make all Wrye Bash users as crash dummy testers :?

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Okay I got it. Here it is http://sourceforge.net/projects/oblivionworks/files/Wrye%20Bash/Wrye%20Bash%20295/

The installer version will install all I need for me right?

Standalone version seems to be 'copy and paste' version.

Yea, use the installer version. That should install everything for you.

[sroro]

Note that 295 has face import broken. Anyway, installer should work if not you can try deleting all the folders created/added by Bash but that could take time and some folder watching.

[Nepro]

Note that 295 has face import broken. Anyway' date=' installer should work if not you can try deleting all the folders created/added by Bash but that could take time and some folder watching.

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So what version do you recommend? I don't wanna use 300 it is too slow compared to 295. I wait ages for esp to tick in when I click on it. I don't have that problem with 295.

Anyway I succeeded running DynamicLeveledList with Wrye Bash 295.

Wrye Bash 300 cannot handle DynamicLeveledList.esp resulting in game freezing when Oblivion loads mods before getting to main menu.

One piece of advise when installing DLL: make sure to do start the game with clean save.

1. Tick the DLL

2. Load the game

3. Save the game

4. Quit the game

5. Then start really playing

I ticked bunch of other mods and build bash patch together with ticking DLL esp. Don't do that mistake. You will get black screen upon entering dungeons, caves etc.